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RE: The "Actual" Greatest War Movie ever - 2/28/2006 9:10:39 AM   


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Quite difficult to answer. I´ll try to find Categories.

Topic: Die Bruecke
Actors: Das Boot
Realism: (as I have no experience, thank god i don´t!!!--- U might say i´m wrong)Tora!Tora!Tora!
Historic Backgrnd: Tora!Tora!tora!
Scenery: Brothers in Arms
Story: Apocalypse Now

Some more words 2 each of ´em:

Die Bruecke: It shows the simple small useless battle ´bout a bridge in the last months of WWII. Allthough its B/W the pics burned themselves into my mind.
Das Boot: THE MOVIE to get an idea of whats giong on in the heads of German WWII soldiers.
Tora!³: Great ´cause both sides /w their motivation on all levels (gov, diplomatic, Generalstaff and the single pilot) are shown w/out haveng the "bad" or the "good" guy.
Great Action too.
BiA: I saw it first like a year ago. I was impressed!! Nearly each part of the Allied assault on europe is shown...great chars too
Apoc.:I love the psycho-circus!! great music, mad chars, psychedelic³, the bridge they cross by boat is just sooo wicked^^


---->Tora!³ is the best!!!

other good ones to jaffa:
-Ryan (parts!!) As I watched in the movietheatre i had to laugh about the Hollywood "GoodblessAmerica" stuff (the banner at the beginning and in the end f.ex.)
-goodmorning Vietnam

Dislikes:-this Steiner-stuff.
-Enemy at the gates (oh my god^^)

Hehe, u gave me a lot of movies, i have to watch^^
Sry´that i didn´t pick one w/out mention some others :P

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RE: The "Actual" Greatest War Movie ever - 3/3/2006 2:43:07 PM   


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to ironfist:

"Die Brücke" is very famous in Germany. It is abotu the last days of the war in a small nameless town sitauted on a small river..with a bridge over the river. Six school boys are the last male members of a school class at the local "Gymnasium": they are about 16 years old. They become suddenly conscripts as US troops approach the town, are put in uniforms, get arms and left in the town by their company commander to "defend the bridge". His intention is to save their lives because the bridge should be blown up.

Of course, everything goes American spearhead reaches the bridge, the boys fight as they were told in school and in the HJ and are all except one killed, the last by Germans as he tries to prevent the demoliton of "his bridge".

Very of my favorite scenes is when the boys are dropped at the bridge and understand that they are left behind to avoid combat. First , they are very angry because they want to fight, then sme trucks with wounded pass the bridge and they see and hear the woundes "Landser" covered with dirt and blood, some without arms, crying...then they are silent..


"No other troops in the world but German paratroops could have stood up to such an ordeal and then gone on fighting with such ferocity" — Field Marshal Alexander.

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RE: The "Actual" Greatest War Movie ever - 4/2/2006 1:29:57 AM   

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Pvt. Ryan.


"Before Guadalcanal the enemy advanced at his pleasure. After Guadalcanal, he retreated at ours".

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RE: smells like victory - 4/21/2006 4:46:10 AM   

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Private Ryan!


"Before Guadalcanal the enemy advanced at his pleasure. After Guadalcanal, he retreated at ours".

"Mama, There's Rabbits in the Garden"

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RE: smells like victory - 5/19/2006 4:16:16 AM   

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RE: The "Actual" Greatest War Movie ever - 5/19/2006 11:52:08 AM   

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a bridge too far and/or Apocalypse now -"I just love the smell of napalm in the morning"
Anyone seen Jarhead... is it any good?


"Best soldier in war is one who has accepted that he has already died. Time,place or way is unrelevant"

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RE: The "Actual" Greatest War Movie ever - 5/29/2006 3:46:37 PM   
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Another vote for Kelly's Heroes.

How about a second category for the small screen?

Band of Brothers is awesome but the Richard Sharpe series gets my vote.

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RE: Just a thought - 6/2/2006 2:09:40 AM   


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Earlier in this thread someone mentioned curiosity about a movie showing the final days of Berlin. I would recommend checking out Downfall. While the film focuses on the last days in Berlin as experienced by one of Hitler's secretaries, there are some extremely powerful scenes regarding what is going on "above ground" at the time...worth checking out for all interested in the subject.

I should mention that, at least the version that I saw was in German with English subtitles (I know how some people feel about subtitles)...not sure if there is a dubbed version or not.


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RE: Just a thought - 11/19/2006 5:16:04 AM   
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OK, here's my two cents worth. I own or have seen most of the films discussed in the previous posts. While they mostly deal with specific times and events in history ( battles, campaigns and etc.), for those of us who are sticklers for accuracy, many of the films fall short of the mark (i.e. Enemy At the Gates showing T34/85 turrets mounted on an amoured train in September 1942, and Cross of Iron commiting the similar error in showing T34/85s in the summer of 1943),but I still like both films.  For those Americans who enjoyed Saving Private Ryan (or anyone else) who hasn't seen Talvisota, it is well worth your time. I was glad to see someone mention Catch 22, for war is an act of the absurd. The flim that I nominate deals in hypothetical coldwar absurdities and hyperbolies, Dr. Strangelove. Yes, I realize it is not a "War Film" concerning an actual event per se-but for those of us over 50, the possibilites it portrayed were humoursly frightening. Black comedy in high art form.


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RE: Just a thought - 4/15/2007 5:40:25 PM   

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Twelve o'clock High
Winged Victory
Saving Private Ryan
Guadalcanal Diary
Das Boote
The Rough Riders
We Were Soldiers


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RE: The "Actual" Greatest War Movie ever - 5/16/2007 5:19:45 AM   

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Sorry, I just can't do it. There are so many great ones, and so many lessons to be learned from each.

However, as to your suggestion that a vote be taken for crappiest war movie EVER. I can, without hesitation, offer STRIPES with Bill Murray as my pick of the worst of the worst. That is, if cold war movies count.


Only the dead know the end of war. Plato

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RE: - 7/7/2007 12:47:37 AM   


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Das Boot - the Director's cut. I've never seen anything to top it.

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RE: - 7/7/2007 1:07:18 AM   


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Yeah I know it's five years later. So what.

As a war movie, Thin Red Line was the most horrible disappointment I ever saw.

I'm with you on this.

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RE: The "Actual" Greatest War Movie ever - 7/7/2007 2:28:33 AM   


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I got curious, so....

Based on where I could make out a definite vote (first votes only) for an actual movie, this is my count of the posts so far, since no-one else has provided one on-site:

Three Great Films - everybody agrees:
Das Boot  1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 (11)
Cross of Iron  1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 (10)
The Longest Day  1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 (9)

Outstanding war films:
Kelly's Heroes  1 1 1 1 1 1 1 (7)
Saving Private Ryan 1 1 1 1 1 1 (6)
A Bridge Too Far 1 1 1 1 1 (5)
Stalingrad  1 1 1 1 1 (5)
We Were Soldiers 1 1 1 1 (4)

The next group have three votes each; of these, I have only seen Patton.
If they are all to that standard, we'll call them 'well worth seeing'.
Glory   1 1 1
Patton   1 1 1
Tuntematon Sotilas 1 1 1 (The unknown soldier)
No Man's Land  1 1 1
Pork Chop Hill  1 1 1

Fascinating that so many good movies could only get two definite votes!
I have seen all of these except two, and they were all good.
Bridge over the River Kwai 1 1
Gettysburg  1 1
Zulu   1 1
Tora! Tora! Tora! 1 1 (HOW could this get so few votes?)
All Quiet on the Western Front 1 1 (I suppose the people who've actually seen this have mostly died of old age!)
The Battle of Britain 1 1
The Blue Max  1 1
Big Red One  1 1
Enemy at the Gates 1 1

Only one first vote for each of these: I have seen one third of them,
and they were all ok except the following:
I think the vote for Lawrence of Arabia must have been a joke;
and the vote for Thin Red Line just proves that no matter how awful a movie (as a war movie), there is someone who will like it....

Lawrence of Arabia 1
The Bridge (Die Brucke)1
Full Metal Jacket 1
Talvisota (Winter War) 1
Black Hawk Down  1
Apocalypse Now  1
A Long Days Dying 1
Midway   1
Hell is for Heroes 1
The Wild Geese  1
When Trumpets Fade 1
Waterloo  1
Platoon Leader  1
Good Morning Vietnam 1
Ran (Chaos)  1
Gallipoli  1
The Thin Red Line 1!
Play Dirty  1
The Pianist  1
The Boys of Company C 1
Heartbreak Ridge 1
Where Eagles Dare 1
The Alamo (2004) 1
The Dambusters  1
The Beast (Beast of War)1

Thumbs down:
The Thin Red Line 1 1 1 (but at least one person likes it)
Red Dawn  1 1
Enemy at the Gates 1 1 (a few people thought it not so bad)
Pearl Harbour  1 (chick flick war movie - that's not going to work, right?)
Stripes   1 (no one argued for this one)

Now, if you want to make a shopping list, you can

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RE: The "Actual" Greatest War Movie ever - 7/7/2007 5:47:33 AM   

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If we are voting I would like to cast a vote for "How I Unleashed the Second World War". It is a 3 part Polish movie circa 1969 about a Polish soldier Frank Dolas who shoots his rifle in Germany about 30 seconds before the German artillery started. It covers his adventure from then to a POW camp, to Austria, Yugoslavia, Syria, Italy, and than Finally back to Poland. If you don't have subtitles I doubt you know what is going on as the movie is in several languages including Polish, Italian, German, French just to name a few.

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RE: The "Actual" Greatest War Movie ever - 2/8/2008 8:29:54 PM   

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Breaker Morant would have to be in my Top 5!

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RE: The "Actual" Greatest War Movie ever - 2/8/2008 9:55:12 PM   

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I keep telling you all, Its "The Alamo", 2004 verison


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RE: smells like victory - 4/8/2008 11:26:01 PM   
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I have to go with Saving Private Ryan
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