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For all you ohka unbelievers.... - 9/2/2008 9:00:39 AM   
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They do work.....

The hit rate is something like 1/20, but they work......





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RE: For all you ohka unbelievers.... - 9/2/2008 11:49:28 AM   
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Ho man...
such a wet dream...

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RE: For all you ohka unbelievers.... - 9/2/2008 12:02:35 PM   
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Yes, we know they work...

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RE: For all you ohka unbelievers.... - 9/2/2008 12:20:16 PM   
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They do work.....

The hit rate is something like 1/20, but they work......







so you get 1 hit every second month with a production rate of 9/month. Did you adjust your production?

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RE: For all you ohka unbelievers.... - 9/3/2008 12:29:36 AM   
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I've never seen more than 2 or 3 ohka hits. They are devastating.

Scuttled 3 BB's in Karachi!!! What's up with that?

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RE: For all you ohka unbelievers.... - 9/3/2008 12:30:34 AM   
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Well, Karachi was most likely taken.

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RE: For all you ohka unbelievers.... - 9/3/2008 1:05:49 AM   
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They do work.....

The hit rate is something like 1/20, but they work......


I have yet to score with one but I have a game where I have stockpiled nearly 100 and I would love to get even a few hits with them. Do you have any advice or observations on how to maximize the chances for a successful attack?

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RE: For all you ohka unbelievers.... - 9/3/2008 1:31:29 AM   
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Pray to Benzaiten...

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RE: For all you ohka unbelievers.... - 9/3/2008 2:02:06 AM   
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RE: For all you ohka unbelievers.... - 9/3/2008 5:35:02 AM   
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This is indeed an AI game, it had to scuttle a lot of ships at Karachi to "prevent capture"...

In this game ongoing from december 7'th (VERY HARD) i have captured everything west of midway and I am now at 6/45.....

I think that most hits where made by my 91 exp Betty group based at Suva/Tarawa, high exp helps (I think)...

Btw, how can you see how many Ohka's are are in stock, I know I am producing 11 a month but can't seem to find my stockpile data ? 

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RE: For all you ohka unbelievers.... - 9/3/2008 5:58:18 AM   
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so you get 1 hit every second month with a production rate of 9/month. Did you adjust your production?


Yeah - we established a while back that the 9/month was a "typo" for 90/month ... also there was a bug which allowed 4 Okha to fly if insufficient ohka were in the pool, this got fixed in 1.8.0.6 IIRC ... it was these 4 flying for many strikes that gave the impression that none ever hit. If you strike with 20-30+ Okha you will get some hits, especially if the EXP level is 80+ ... these things were demonstrated back during one of the debates. The production level should be fixed. I'll try to remember to hard code that at least - in the next patch to stock - which will be released at the same time as AE.



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RE: For all you ohka unbelievers.... - 9/3/2008 6:17:03 AM   
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so you get 1 hit every second month with a production rate of 9/month. Did you adjust your production?


Good news about the patch ... and you can't adjust Okha production anyway. Depends on the mod, but usually available around the beginning of '45 ...

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RE: For all you ohka unbelievers.... - 9/3/2008 6:20:41 AM   
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Castor means - adjust it in the editor.


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RE: For all you ohka unbelievers.... - 9/3/2008 6:26:39 AM   
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Yeah ... I didn't really think Castor didn't know this. So if you are playing a mod, I'm playing Empires Ablaze and the production rate is 30 ... Is the number produced * 10 ? So 300 / Month ?

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RE: For all you ohka unbelievers.... - 9/3/2008 6:39:55 AM   
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If we hard code 90/month - then for the device in that slot - it will be 90/month regardless of what is in the editor file.

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RE: For all you ohka unbelievers.... - 9/3/2008 6:46:24 AM   
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I've scored with them a lot in my early Feb 1945 campaign with Paul Layne.  They are fun to watch being launched at helpless ships from Betty crews of 75-80 experience!  Pretty much one-hit, one-kill against AK/AP/DD.  Gotta like that...


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RE: For all you ohka unbelievers.... - 9/3/2008 7:35:01 AM   
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quote:

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quote:

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so you get 1 hit every second month with a production rate of 9/month. Did you adjust your production?


Yeah - we established a while back that the 9/month was a "typo" for 90/month ... also there was a bug which allowed 4 Okha to fly if insufficient ohka were in the pool, this got fixed in 1.8.0.6 IIRC ... it was these 4 flying for many strikes that gave the impression that none ever hit. If you strike with 20-30+ Okha you will get some hits, especially if the EXP level is 80+ ... these things were demonstrated back during one of the debates. The production level should be fixed. I'll try to remember to hard code that at least - in the next patch to stock - which will be released at the same time as AE.





ahh, now that you tell me I think I can remember that change in a patch. But those 9/month were so long in my brain that I´m just used to bitch about it!

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RE: For all you ohka unbelievers.... - 9/3/2008 2:19:49 PM   
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Yeah ... I didn't really think Castor didn't know this.


He knew... He's been told many times, and always refused to believe it.

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RE: For all you ohka unbelievers.... - 9/4/2008 7:44:56 AM   
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Yeah ... I didn't really think Castor didn't know this.


He knew... He's been told many times, and always refused to believe it.



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RE: For all you ohka unbelievers.... - 9/5/2008 1:59:37 AM   
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Alright, alright, you guys stand down - or I'll sique brothers Pauk and PzH on yuz!!!


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RE: For all you ohka unbelievers.... - 12/31/2008 11:41:26 AM   
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Hey jwilkerson (or any other)   If a Player has no more OHKA's...  will the Betty dropp Torpedos then ?

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RE: For all you ohka unbelievers.... - 12/31/2008 2:22:43 PM   
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Hey jwilkerson (or any other)   If a Player has no more OHKA's...  will the Betty dropp Torpedos then ?


NO, they will not fly.....

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RE: For all you ohka unbelievers.... - 1/1/2009 4:50:56 PM   
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I haven't had to deal with those yet.  Sends shivers down me timbers just thinking about them 

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RE: For all you ohka unbelievers.... - 1/1/2009 7:06:18 PM   
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Anyone have any techniques that they use against Ohkas they'd like to share?

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RE: For all you ohka unbelievers.... - 1/1/2009 7:17:23 PM   
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You can't do anything about the things themselves, so you have to shoot down the Betties (or bomb them at their bases).

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RE: For all you ohka unbelievers.... - 1/1/2009 7:20:32 PM   
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Hey jwilkerson (or any other)   If a Player has no more OHKA's...  will the Betty dropp Torpedos then ?


NO, they will not fly.....


Well to elaborate, there are more than one flavor of Betty. The way the game handles "okha" is to make them a part of a special Betty that only flies Okha. So these special Betty's and their Ohka are one entity. The "normal" Betties will continue to operate as always regardless of number of Okha.



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RE: For all you ohka unbelievers.... - 1/1/2009 8:49:54 PM   
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****Okha Pilot Training School, Sasebo, Japan, Live Demo*********

Instructor:<shouting over the din of the Betty motors in flight>.....I will then, after succesful release and the achievment of proper trim... and tentativley chosing my target, ignite the Emperor's rocket motors and nose the craft over into a dive which will culminate in the destruction of an imperialist naval vessel....HEY..HEY...HEY..Listen up you guys! I am only going to do this once...

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RE: For all you ohka unbelievers.... - 1/1/2009 9:08:14 PM   
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****Okha Pilot Training School, Sasebo, Japan, Live Demo*********

Instructor:<shouting over the din of the Betty motors in flight>.....I will then, after succesful release and the achievment of proper trim... and tentativley chosing my target, ignite the Emperor's rocket motors and nose the craft over into a dive which will culminate in the destruction of an imperialist naval vessel....HEY..HEY...HEY..Listen up you guys! I am only going to do this once...


Reminds me of a Daffy Duck Bugs Bunny Cartoon

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