Matrix Games Forums

Forums  Register  Login  Photo Gallery  Member List  Search  Calendars  FAQ 

My Profile  Inbox  Address Book  My Subscription  My Forums  Log Out

Air Group Upgrade

 
View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
Users viewing this topic: none
  Printable Version
All Forums >> [Current Games From Matrix.] >> [World War II] >> War In The Pacific - Struggle Against Japan 1941 - 1945 >> The War Room >> Air Group Upgrade Page: [1]
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
Air Group Upgrade - 4/2/2008 12:31:29 AM   
John 3rd


Posts: 16593
Joined: 9/8/2005
From: La Salle, Colorado
Status: offline
Hi Forum.

I am debating on letting my Japanese CV air groups to changeover from the 1/3 F, 1/3 DB, 1/3 TB composition. What do people think about that? I HATE losing those Kates/Jills but can always use more Fighters.

If I do go with the change all I have to do is be disbanded in a Port, have plenty of supply, and set my Daitai to accept replacements--Right?



_____________________________



Member: Treaty, Reluctant Admiral and Between the Storms Mod Team.

Reluctant Admiral Mod:
https://sites.google.com/site/reluctantadmiral/
Post #: 1
RE: Air Group Upgrade - 4/2/2008 12:38:23 AM   
Terminus


Posts: 41451
Joined: 4/23/2005
From: Denmark
Status: offline
Er, that composition happens by itself. Nothing you can do about it.

_____________________________

We are all dreams of the Giant Space Butterfly.

(in reply to John 3rd)
Post #: 2
RE: Air Group Upgrade - 4/2/2008 12:50:53 AM   
Mike Solli


Posts: 15568
Joined: 10/18/2000
From: the flight deck of the Zuikaku
Status: offline
True, you never know when or if that will happen.  I have a carrier in Apr 43 that still has the 1/3, 1/3, 1/3.  It still hasn't converted.

_____________________________


Created by the amazing Dixie

(in reply to Terminus)
Post #: 3
RE: Air Group Upgrade - 4/2/2008 12:55:04 AM   
Mynok


Posts: 12108
Joined: 11/30/2002
Status: offline

I must have missed something somewhere. The group ratios change at some point?


_____________________________

"Measure civilization by the ability of citizens to mock government with impunity" -- Unknown

(in reply to Mike Solli)
Post #: 4
RE: Air Group Upgrade - 4/2/2008 1:06:32 AM   
John 3rd


Posts: 16593
Joined: 9/8/2005
From: La Salle, Colorado
Status: offline
Well I am in March 1943 with Canoerebel and NONE of my CV Air Groups have changed!  Until about 10 days ago nearly all of my CVs were in Tokyo/Osaka...

Mynok--They change from the 1/3--1/3--1/3 to 3/8--3/8--2/8 or, more simply, in a 72 plane CV from 21--21--21 to 27--27--18.


_____________________________



Member: Treaty, Reluctant Admiral and Between the Storms Mod Team.

Reluctant Admiral Mod:
https://sites.google.com/site/reluctantadmiral/

(in reply to Mynok)
Post #: 5
RE: Air Group Upgrade - 4/2/2008 1:21:43 AM   
rominet


Posts: 523
Joined: 10/23/2007
From: Paris
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: John 3rd

Well I am in March 1943 with Canoerebel and NONE of my CV Air Groups have changed!  Until about 10 days ago nearly all of my CVs were in Tokyo/Osaka...

Mynok--They change from the 1/3--1/3--1/3 to 3/8--3/8--2/8 or, more simply, in a 72 plane CV from 21--21--21 to 27--27--18.



Isn't it rather 24-24-24 to 27-27-18? (for a CV with 72 planes)
and 21-21-21 to 24-24-15? (for a CV with 63 planes)
but i don't know when it happens

< Message edited by rominet -- 4/2/2008 1:23:19 AM >

(in reply to John 3rd)
Post #: 6
RE: Air Group Upgrade - 4/2/2008 4:16:01 AM   
John 3rd


Posts: 16593
Joined: 9/8/2005
From: La Salle, Colorado
Status: offline
Color me silly! 

I needed another beer to catch that mistake!  Must have been thinking of Hiryu/Soryu and not the larger flattops...

_____________________________



Member: Treaty, Reluctant Admiral and Between the Storms Mod Team.

Reluctant Admiral Mod:
https://sites.google.com/site/reluctantadmiral/

(in reply to rominet)
Post #: 7
RE: Air Group Upgrade - 4/2/2008 7:32:37 AM   
okami


Posts: 404
Joined: 5/23/2007
Status: offline
It is just my opinion but from a performance view I would want more Kates not less.

_____________________________

"Square peg, round hole? No problem. Malet please.

(in reply to John 3rd)
Post #: 8
RE: Air Group Upgrade - 4/2/2008 2:15:28 PM   
Mike Solli


Posts: 15568
Joined: 10/18/2000
From: the flight deck of the Zuikaku
Status: offline
I've had some of my Japanese carriers do odd things. 

27-24-18 Akagi
23-24-21 Soryu
23-23-15 Hiryu
24-24-24 Shokaku
24-27-18 Zuikaku

This is in Apr 43, stock.

_____________________________


Created by the amazing Dixie

(in reply to okami)
Post #: 9
RE: Air Group Upgrade - 4/2/2008 4:26:24 PM   
Dino


Posts: 1032
Joined: 11/14/2005
From: Serbia
Status: offline
quote:

If I do go with the change all I have to do is be disbanded in a Port, have plenty of supply, and set my Daitai to accept replacements--Right?


If the mechanics are the same as for Allies, then you need a Command HQ affiliated with that port (base) to be present (e.g. Home Defense HQ).



_____________________________


(in reply to John 3rd)
Post #: 10
RE: Air Group Upgrade - 4/2/2008 4:45:08 PM   
rominet


Posts: 523
Joined: 10/23/2007
From: Paris
Status: offline
He, they are 2 "Sylvester" on this forum

(in reply to Dino)
Post #: 11
RE: Air Group Upgrade - 4/2/2008 5:09:12 PM   
Dino


Posts: 1032
Joined: 11/14/2005
From: Serbia
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: rominet

He, they are 2 "Sylvester" on this forum


Oh, goodie...I don't need to fear Pepe Le Phew any more...



_____________________________


(in reply to rominet)
Post #: 12
RE: Air Group Upgrade - 4/4/2008 2:22:01 AM   
John 3rd


Posts: 16593
Joined: 9/8/2005
From: La Salle, Colorado
Status: offline
I had my CVs upgrading and disbanded in Toyko and Osaka for quite a while before they left and their Air Groups NEVER changed. 

I love the Kates as well... 

_____________________________



Member: Treaty, Reluctant Admiral and Between the Storms Mod Team.

Reluctant Admiral Mod:
https://sites.google.com/site/reluctantadmiral/

(in reply to Dino)
Post #: 13
RE: Air Group Upgrade - 4/4/2008 2:54:25 AM   
ny59giants_MatrixForum


Posts: 9706
Joined: 1/10/2005
Status: offline
I hate the Kates  ...the less the better.

_____________________________


(in reply to John 3rd)
Post #: 14
RE: Air Group Upgrade - 4/5/2008 1:24:51 AM   
John 3rd


Posts: 16593
Joined: 9/8/2005
From: La Salle, Colorado
Status: offline
I do have to admit that I have thought about pulling a DB Daitai off of one the 72 plane Japanese CVs and replacing it with a CV Capable Torpedo Daitai.  Imagine:  24 Zero and 48 Kates!  That would be quite fun to do.  Wonder if that is gamey?


_____________________________



Member: Treaty, Reluctant Admiral and Between the Storms Mod Team.

Reluctant Admiral Mod:
https://sites.google.com/site/reluctantadmiral/

(in reply to ny59giants_MatrixForum)
Post #: 15
RE: Air Group Upgrade - 4/5/2008 4:18:00 AM   
ny59giants_MatrixForum


Posts: 9706
Joined: 1/10/2005
Status: offline
Not gamey, IMO. Just don't want to be on the receiving end of it.

_____________________________


(in reply to John 3rd)
Post #: 16
RE: Air Group Upgrade - 4/5/2008 9:13:32 PM   
Dino


Posts: 1032
Joined: 11/14/2005
From: Serbia
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: John 3rd

I had my CVs upgrading and disbanded in Toyko and Osaka for quite a while before they left and their Air Groups NEVER changed.

I love the Kates as well...


Did you have Home Defense Force HQ present in either Tokyo or Osaka?

BTW, the trigger date (according to manual ) is July 1st 1942.



_____________________________


(in reply to John 3rd)
Post #: 17
RE: Air Group Upgrade - 4/6/2008 4:49:28 AM   
John 3rd


Posts: 16593
Joined: 9/8/2005
From: La Salle, Colorado
Status: offline
I did have everything in place at Tokyo as well as HQ units in Osaka.  Didn't get the upgrade...

I have decided that CV Akagi or Kaga is going to be transformed into a Kate CV:  24 A6M3a and 51 Kates...

EVIL!


_____________________________



Member: Treaty, Reluctant Admiral and Between the Storms Mod Team.

Reluctant Admiral Mod:
https://sites.google.com/site/reluctantadmiral/

(in reply to Dino)
Post #: 18
Page:   [1]
All Forums >> [Current Games From Matrix.] >> [World War II] >> War In The Pacific - Struggle Against Japan 1941 - 1945 >> The War Room >> Air Group Upgrade Page: [1]
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts


Forum Software © ASPPlayground.NET Advanced Edition 2.4.5 ANSI

0.156