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Political Points - Summary Chart - 2/18/2008 9:19:30 PM   
AresMars

 

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Once again I would like to ask for a SUMMARY of all the Political Point Changes that are posisble in EIANW.

As there is a variation from the original EIA rules, this information will help _ all Players _ understand what events and actions will have what sort of Political Status change result(s).

I asked orginially in the following thread and NOTHING!
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1671727&mpage=1&key=�

Marshall posted one that was important but I would like a complete list from the Game Designers please.

Marshall Quote: "Actually version 1.00 should have corps with more than 20 factors worth 2pp."

This suggests that the number of active FACTORS is more important then the actual Corps capacity.
[ ie. French II Corp (20 I/M, 3C) = +/-.5 PP if less then 19 factors, +/- 2 PP if 20+ factors - Where it should be +/- 1 PP for the Corps being present, ignoring factors present ]

An important element of playing EIA/EIANW is the gain/lost of PP and without knowing how the game treats all possible events it is hard to make effective, informed decisions.

Please provide a summary with Patch 1.02
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RE: Political Points - Summary Chart - 2/20/2008 4:53:27 AM   
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20+ factors should be 1pp, not 2pp

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RE: Political Points - Summary Chart - 2/20/2008 12:01:48 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Murat

20+ factors should be 1pp, not 2pp


Actually it should be, just like in EIA. As it is supposed to in EIANW, section 11.2.10 page 72 1.paragraph confirms this.

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RE: Political Points - Summary Chart - 2/20/2008 4:50:29 PM   
AresMars

 

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Marshall indicated otherwise in his response to my orginal inquiry.

Now you understand why I am asking for a detailed summary from Matrix.

I rememeber the same way that both Murat and bresh do.

Any Corps that has a capacity of 20 or more factors is worth 1 PP and not 0.5 PP in a win or loss.

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RE: Political Points - Summary Chart - 2/20/2008 5:00:35 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: AresMars

Marshall indicated otherwise in his response to my orginal inquiry.

Now you understand why I am asking for a detailed summary from Matrix.

I rememeber the same way that both Murat and bresh do.

Any Corps that has a capacity of 20 or more factors is worth 1 PP and not 0.5 PP in a win or loss.




Not quite, it needs to have 20+ factors in it at the start of battle. Not just room for 20+ :)

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Bresh

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RE: Political Points - Summary Chart - 2/20/2008 8:30:33 PM   
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Yes, I was wrong! I meant 2 as a multiplier. Corps starting the battle with 20+ factors are 1pp (2x.5). My bad, sorry!

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RE: Political Points - Summary Chart - 2/21/2008 12:05:48 AM   
AresMars

 

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Bresh,

When we played, we played based on CAPACITY and not factors at start.

May have been a house rule then....but it made sense to us at the time.

As France has the bulk of the 20+ Corps, it made it a little harder for him and help us deal with Super Stacks, etc....


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RE: Political Points - Summary Chart - 2/21/2008 12:41:33 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: AresMars

Bresh,

When we played, we played based on CAPACITY and not factors at start.

May have been a house rule then....but it made sense to us at the time.

As France has the bulk of the 20+ Corps, it made it a little harder for him and help us deal with Super Stacks, etc....




Well i can just point to the eia-rulebook, dont know why you played with a houserule there,
but if you read the rules, its not capacity, but corps starting-battles with 20+factors.

All i can say you didnt play by the rules.
And personnaly i prefer to play by the official rules.

Regards
Bresh



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RE: Political Points - Summary Chart - 2/25/2008 5:49:59 PM   
AresMars

 

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Well, it seems that after much mocking my group of "friends" reminded me of my aging memory.

It seems I "rememebered" the way we where playing, and the French players always kept the 20+ Corps full....

It really sucks getting older....I hope 40 is not as bad as 39!

Matrix Games:  I am still looking for a Political Point Summary for EIANW...!


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RE: Political Points - Summary Chart - 2/26/2008 11:22:28 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: AresMars

Well, it seems that after much mocking my group of "friends" reminded me of my aging memory.

It seems I "rememebered" the way we where playing, and the French players always kept the 20+ Corps full....

It really sucks getting older....I hope 40 is not as bad as 39!

Matrix Games: I am still looking for a Political Point Summary for EIANW...!




There are three signs that you're getting old.

The first is that you lose your memory.

I forgot what the other two are.


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RE: Political Points - Summary Chart - 2/26/2008 6:02:18 PM   
AresMars

 

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Thanks delatbabel!

I dont feel as stupid as I sounded now!


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