I've just been informed (on the WitP forum) that the presence of Allied radar doesn't negate an IJN Long Lance attack in WitP, so that feature could be incorporated in CF.
In fact, many TF features found in WitP should be added to CF; I have no objection to UV becoming like WitP as long as its scope doesn't dramatically increase.
It certainly does in UV.
12) Rewrote naval combat code to allow for surprise attacks. Combat Japanese task forces that have ships mounting the Long Lance torpedo will now try to sneak up and surprise attack with a volley from every able ship, then retire to reload, before normal combat occurs. Combat Japanese task forces that do not contain ships with the Long Lance torpedo and combat Allied task forces may also make surprise attacks, gaining a free round of combat, firing limited shots, before normal combat occurs. To make a gun surprise attack, the side attacking must make skill rolls to properly line up the ships and coordinate fire, and radar or spotting rolls, while the other side fails the radar or spotting rolls. To make a Long Lance attack, the Allied side must either fail a radar or spotting roll or fail a skill roll (required to turn into the torpedoes) and the Japanese side must make skill rolls to line up the ships in proper formation and coordinate the attack. Surprise attacks can be devastating for the surprised task force sometimes and sometimes of little value, depending on a lot of skill rolling.
No way, we been down this road a few times but just because the allies were in disarray at Savo doesn't mean the code should be written up that way for the whole conflict.
The United States Navy was pushing the envelope and learning things daily about radar. Japanese surface shipping didn't sneak up at Savo and couldn't sneak up on the USN anytime going forward. I think you're confusing dissaray on the Allies part as sneaking up. Since were speaking on hypotheticals, an argument could be made that the Allies should get some info on Japanese shipping since the japanese codes were broke and some info on movement was being read.
< Message edited by SuluSea -- 5/22/2008 3:54:12 PM >