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Newbie: Hv support (GE) - 1/14/2008 11:58:29 PM   
varis2000

 

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Hi, I'm doing my first Hv missile titan - it's supposed to sit at long range, launching volleys of death one after another, while buddies take on the hostile force. Thus, about 20-30p armour in each slot and as much firepower as possible.

The squad atm is 2 x R, 1 x L, 2 X H, including this model. I would export the other Hv titan too but don't know if that's possible when it's a squad's custom titan.

What I have so far is something like this:

quote:


Titan Name: Halberd cncpt Long Range Heavy Titan
Chassis: Durania H1 Design: Lord Gek
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Weight: 131.5t (140t maximum) Height : 13 [meter]
Bmt : 33 (36 kph) Reduce Heat: -2.28C/sec.
Jmt : 10 (120 kph) for 57 secs Cost : 306389($)


Equipment:
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Component/Type/Location

Engine : CyberSys [Engine 3] [CT ]
HeatReg.: Delinit H4 [Heat 4]
Flares : FL Large [Flare2] [CT ]
D.C.S. : Repakoff [D.C.S.1] [CT ]
LifeSup.: Phillippi [Life 2] [Head]
Scanner : Mark X-S [Scan. 6] [LT ]
Computer: Mark BC-X [Comp. 6] [CBT ]
E.C.M. : Electra [E.C.M. 1] [LowT]
JumpPort: Mark MJ-I [Jump 6]


Weapons:
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Location/Weapon/Ammunition/Slots

[LA ] G.M.H. 2 RACK (032) [2]
[RT ] G.M.H. 4 RACK (024) [3]
[RA ] G.M.H. 2 RACK (032) [2]
[LT ] G.M.H. 2 RACK (016) [1]
[Head] LARGE LASER


Armor:
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Loc/Internal/Armor/Status/Points/mm

[Head] (13) Dullaroy HMAX 022 [032mm]
[RT ] (25) Titanium (S) 042 [077mm]
[CT ] (25) Dullaroy (S) 041 [059mm]
[CBT ] (15) Vicenium 026 [044mm]
[LT ] (25) Dullaroy 042 [061mm]
[RA ] (23) Vicenium 040 [067mm]
[LA ] (23) Vicenium 040 [067mm]
[LowT] (15) Vicenium (S) 045 [075mm]
[RL ] (21) Titanium 043 [079mm]
[LL ] (21) Titanium 043 [079mm]

Armor Index: 4.49 [Total APts/T]
Internal: 206 [APts]
External: 384 [APts] Max:[084mm]
Total Armor: 590 [APts]


JOCK requirements:
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Piloting: Heavy Titan incl. Jump
Weapons : G.M. Energy
Warfare : Defense Scanner Warfare(ECM)
Skills : D.C. Medic Ind.Fire


I notice that I'm running out of slots but there's still quite a bit of free weight. I assume I should upgrade to a larger chassis (again!) to fit in all those launchers?

I'm downgrading my defensive systems - why does the halberd need them anyway, are they for higher difficulty levels when your squad is something better than my Regular? I could maybe upgrade the DCS or install a very small shield, though... The pilot (Puma) is supposed to develop high defensive systems skills. And downgrade scanner - don't need fast scans with the long reload time of missiles.

The LL should work at the shorter end of my typical engagement range, E is the secondary weapon type for the pilot (she is better with G though). I could add a 2nd LL if that makes sense (utilizes free heat capacity). It will also serve as a backup for short-range self defense or finishing off enemies in the end of the fight.

< Message edited by varis2000 -- 1/15/2008 12:14:39 AM >
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RE: Newbie: Hv support (GE) - 1/15/2008 10:58:40 PM   
varis2000

 

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I ended with the below, and what happens? In the first fight I try it out, I get charged by a bunch of close range recons. Oh, well.

quote:



Titan Name: Devastator Long Range Heavy Titan
Chassis: Durania H4 Jock: Squad: Storm Crows
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Weight: 139.9t (140t maximum) Height : 13 [meter]
Bmt : 30 (40 kph) Reduce Heat: -2.76C/sec.
Jmt : 10 (120 kph) for 53 secs Cost : 312560($)


Equipment:
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Component/Type/Location

Engine : Triton T2 [Engine 2] [RT ]
HeatReg.: Delinit H6 [Heat 6]
Flares : FL Large [Flare2] [CT ]
D.C.S. : Repakoff [D.C.S.1] [CT ]
LifeSup.: Phillippi [Life 2] [RT ]
Scanner : CyberSys L [Scan. 3] [Head]
Computer: Mark BC-X [Comp. 6] [CBT ]
E.C.M. : Electra [E.C.M. 1] [LowT]
JumpPort: Mark MJ-I [Jump 6]


Weapons:
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Location/Weapon/Ammunition/Slots

[Head] LARGE LASER
[RA ] G.M.H. 4 RACK (016) [2]
[LA ] G.M.H. 4 RACK (016) [2]
[CT ] G.M.H. 2 RACK (016) [1]
[LT ] G.M.H. 2 RACK (016) [1]
[RT ] G.M.H. 2 RACK (016) [1]
[LT ] G.M.H. 2 RACK (016) [1]


Armor:
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Loc/Internal/Armor/Status/Points/mm

[Head] (13) Dullaroy 023 [033mm]
[RT ] (27) Titanium (W) 028 [051mm]
[CT ] (27) Vicenium (W) 030 [050mm]
[CBT ] (15) Vicenium 021 [035mm]
[LT ] (27) Vicenium 024 [041mm]
[RA ] (25) Vicenium 022 [037mm]
[LA ] (25) Vicenium 022 [037mm]
[LowT] (15) Vicenium 022 [037mm]
[RL ] (21) Vicenium 025 [042mm]
[LL ] (21) Vicenium 025 [042mm]

Armor Index: 3.27 [Total APts/T]
Internal: 216 [APts]
External: 242 [APts] Max:[093mm]
Total Armor: 458 [APts]


JOCK requirements:
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Piloting: Heavy Titan incl. Jump
Weapons : G.M. Energy
Warfare : Defense Scanner Warfare(ECM)
Skills : D.C. Medic Scout Ind.Fire



I'm satisfied with the design though - it was just bad tactical skill, not the designer's fault I had to downgrade some of those systems, to fit everything and then have some weight left for the armour, pretty much as planned. One less launcher and maybe a smaller chassis with more armour could have been better for campaign play... or should I leave out the jump jets... but I think they're a must for swift deployment, just don't know how to use them much yet.

The pinboard rated the thing 17/18 pts (or an earlier version), four green balls in firepower, or such!

Here's the other heavy:

quote:



Titan Name: Megabeam2i Short Range Heavy Titan
Chassis: Durania H2 Jock: Anatolya Petrov Squad: Storm Crows
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Weight: 139.9t (140t maximum) Height : 13 [meter]
Bmt : 32 (37 kph) Reduce Heat: -5.04C/sec.
No Jump Ports Cost : 353161($)


Equipment:
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Component/Type/Location

Engine : Mark MK-I [Engine 8] [RT ]
HeatReg.: Mark MH-II [Heat A]
Flares : FL Small [Flare1] [CT ]
Shield : Surko Defend [Shld3] [LT ]
D.C.S. : Repakoff [D.C.S.1] [CBT ]
LifeSup.: Livotto [Life 1] [Head]
Scanner : Mark X-S [Scan. 6] [LT ]
Computer: Mark BC-X [Comp. 6] [CT ]


Weapons:
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Location/Weapon/Ammunition/Slots

[RA ] COLD LIGHT GUN
[CT ] LARGE LASER
[Head] LARGE LASER
[LA ] PULSE LASER
[LA ] PULSE LASER


Armor:
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Loc/Internal/Armor/Status/Points/mm

[Head] (13) Dullaroy HMAX 023 [033mm]
[RT ] (25) Vicenium (S) 039 [065mm]
[CT ] (23) Titanium 036 [066mm]
[CBT ] (15) Millenia 026 [052mm]
[LT ] (25) Vicenium 037 [062mm]
[RA ] (23) Millenia 026 [052mm]
[LA ] (23) Vicenium 036 [060mm]
[LowT] (15) Millenia 031 [062mm]
[RL ] (19) Millenia 033 [066mm]
[LL ] (19) Millenia 032 [064mm]

Armor Index: 3.71 [Total APts/T]
Internal: 200 [APts]
External: 319 [APts] Max:[087mm]
Total Armor: 519 [APts]


JOCK requirements:
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Piloting: Heavy Titan
Weapons : Energy
Warfare : Defense Scanner
Skills : D.C. Medic



This works pretty much as expected. From medium range, the LLs hit reliably. Close by, I switch to pulse lasers. Occasionally (eg. prone opponent) I fire them all, without any apparent heat or power issues. If I used water or fought in polar environment, I could get even more out of this...

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RE: Newbie: Hv support (GE) - 1/16/2008 1:58:21 PM   
Thorgrim

 

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Halberd mod:
Notice that scanners are not just good for their scan time. Range, accuracy, etc.
I'm not sure you have too much free heat capacity to use a 2nd LL    2.28 is enough for one, but not for 2. And you have power considerations to take into account too.
There's already an assault model named Devastator 
Also remember that GMs can be deflected by flares.
Armor seems a little too thin IMO.
There are other heavy designs based on GMHs in the database too, have you looked at the Sagitta? Quite similar.

Megabeam:
Definitely under armored. And no JJs to close in to convenient range.


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