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Adm Furashita Hypo - 12/4/2007 12:45:51 PM   

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Here is a hypothetical I came up with Sept 1939 seeing germanys war actions and knowing the Japanese are not far behind the US navy begins a modernization program and finally decide to take those 8" turrets off the Lexingtons.

Heres the question What would you do with the turrets?

I would take the old battleships Wisconsin and Utah and mount them on those as shore bombardment ships, or use them as CD guns at Oahu Midway and wake.
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RE: Adm Furashita Hypo - 12/4/2007 12:47:49 PM   

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sorry about the mistake I meant Wyoming

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RE: Adm Furashita Hypo - 12/4/2007 2:05:11 PM   

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In 1939 there was no NEED for those BIG coastal bombardment ships which you discribe. This role was already fullfilled by simple and cheap GUNBOATS that could simple steam up a river to bombard some backward inner country city.

The British had their pre war Erubis and Terror monitors which could crawl to places to bombard (these ships where SLOW and highly vurnerable with their box shaped hulls). In the pacific these ships where totally inpractible as the distances there where so big. If you really wanted to have bombardment ships, it would have been cheaper and more practicle to keep those old BB's in commision as bombardment ships....

Creating permanent gun emplacements, is COSTLY. It does not mean "just" putting a turret somewhere, but you will also have to build armored power plants and ammo storage for those turrets. These fortifications will also have to be staffed and maintained, costing even MORE.

Permant coastal defense fortifications where only feasible in high risk and high value places like Manilla, Pearl, Singapore etz. Wake (like Guadacanall) was certainly NOT high value in 1939.


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RE: Adm Furashita Hypo - 12/4/2007 5:14:02 PM   
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There were plans at Pearl Harbor to use some of the turrets from the sunk battleships as CD gun emplacements around Oahu, but I am not sure that many, if any, actually got fully installed.  I was out on Oahu in September for work, and the site I was at had an old CD bunker next door that was supposed to get a turret from the Arizona.  The below ground bunker is there, but I don't think the guns were ever installed, as the war moved away from Pearl, and the the need for CDs at Pearl diminished.


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