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RE: Im-Possible WITP News - 10/31/2007 11:09:00 PM   
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Any excess teasing I blame on Terminus.



It may be cruel? But in the future I see a fire in a giant pit, with Erik turning the spit... slowly roasting Terminus cooking him until it is safe to eat. Well at least as safe as possible cosidering the what is being cooked.

Who is bringing the beer?



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RE: Im-Possible WITP News - 10/31/2007 11:15:45 PM   
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Dear Erik,
Thanks for that . I have only one issue and that is I hope whatever it is it can upgrade games in progress as I have less and less time for gaming and I have spent 18 months just on one game already with another at 12 months .

I hope you will have had a complete overhaul considering all the free playtesting - feedback there has been and that you considered all the mods / maps ,etc etc and come up with a definative version .

It is one thing to have the mods but its even better to have a game where mods are not the best version !

Regards
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Modifying games in prgress is unlikely to happen. If something like that was publicly available, cheaters would be able to modify PBEM games. It would make no difference to games against the AI though.

Maybe WitP II is in the works? That would be nice. But who knows. We should be finding out something within 2 months. Just hang back and appreciate that Matrix is still supporting this game at all. That's pretty rare in the computer gaming world.

As for the complaints about the quality of software. A computer is probably the most complex piece of machinery that most people deal with on a daily basis. A car is a mature technology. The core technologies in a car have been around for more than 100 years. Computers are much younger and more complex.

One thing that drives the bean counters mad is that software is still a large degree of art. There is science to it, but the quality of the output is still, in large degree, dependent on the quality of the people doing the work. A programmer has to contend with minor differences in hardware, things out of his or her control within the operating system, as well as what other programmers may have done before on that project. There are lots of variables that cannot be predicted ahead of time.

The bean counters also usually push schedules so the programmers don't have the time to do the job to their own satisfaction. Schedules almost always start out overly optimistic and go downhill from there. Few managers are willing to deal with the reality of how long a project is really going to take.

The technology continues to evolve too. In the computing world, the need to be backwardly compatible makes operating systems more complex. If you look at the evolution of aircraft from 1930 to 1950, you will see a massive change. Planes went from fabric covered biplanes, many still made with wood frames, to mach 1+ jets in that time.

By the late 1950s, the technology began to mature. The layout of the airliners we have today took form then with the 707. Military aircraft stabilized later, but the US military today are mostly flying designs from the 1970s, along with some much older aircraft, such as the B-52.

Aircraft didn't require backward compatability. Super sonic fighters of the 1950s didn't have to support technologies from the 1930s. What was not needed was discarded. In the computing world, we are still carrying baggage from the MS DOS days in Windows Vista. (Not much anymore, but it's still there.)

It's a miracle PCs work at all. What's in there makes a car look as complex as a pointy stick.

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RE: Im-Possible WITP News - 10/31/2007 11:43:24 PM   
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Aircraft didn't require backward compatability. Super sonic fighters of the 1950s didn't have to support technologies from the 1930s. What was not needed was discarded. In the computing world, we are still carrying baggage from the MS DOS days in Windows Vista. (Not much anymore, but it's still there.)

It's a miracle PCs work at all. What's in there makes a car look as complex as a pointy stick


Very well said actually.
We wouldn't want a WITP II that would force us to buy a new computer would we? (Head nods assertively)

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RE: Im-Possible WITP News - 10/31/2007 11:44:16 PM   
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Let's go on stike! Don't buy games! Don't play to their egos! When I'm banned from saying this , I can be reached at AW1Steve@yahoo.com . Ignore them. Seriously..no more game purchases till they stop playing with us.

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What we all really need to be doing is ignoring these "teasers" and "promises" until something substantial is actually put on the plate. PUT UP..., OR SHUT UP! That's my attitude..




You missed the point. I'm saying it's OUR FAULT for getting excited every time a new rumour floats by. We should save that for the announcement that a real, tangible product is now available. We have no one to blame but ourselves when we all go "ga-ga" over a "hint" that a "mirage" might be obscuring an honest-to-God "puff of smoke". When they have something REAL, I'm sure they'll tell us about it (in hopes of selling us one if for no other reason).

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RE: Im-Possible WITP News - 10/31/2007 11:52:30 PM   
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Interesting speculations you have going there, DD696... Of course, I couldn't possibly comment...

Apparently that muzzle is already complete.

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RE: Im-Possible WITP News - 11/1/2007 12:59:27 AM   
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This AW1Steve is a real basket case. A boycott of one should be very effective. Can't see many lemmings following him over the cliff.

I'm cool with you Matrix. You have given me too many hours of fun too be upset over something so trivial. Looking forward to anything you produce in your continuing support of this fine game.

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RE: Im-Possible WITP News - 11/1/2007 1:04:35 AM   
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Hardly a basket case.

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RE: Im-Possible WITP News - 11/1/2007 1:37:03 AM   
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Erik - I think the thing that would chill everyone out is to give a time frame of some sort -
We're working on somthing and should be able to let you know before Christmas, in January, early next year, next summer.... something along those lines...


The timeframe is not set in stone, but there's a very famous anniversary coming up that's extremely important to WITP and you should know by then.


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RE: Im-Possible WITP News - 11/1/2007 2:28:07 AM   
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Basket case? Perhaps. But you haven't always "been cool with Matrix". I don't need to reserect your quote. But consider this ..in a capitalistic soceity is there a better way to get someone who is trying sell something attention , then to say , I'm not buying because? Next time you have a problem with a car dealers service department , don't scream at the service manager , take a walk over to the SALES manager. Tell HIM that you won't buy a car from him again because of his service department. 9 times out of 10 you will get prompt service. What I'm trying to say is if this REALLY bothers you , do something about it. Let Matrix know that you are unhappy. Unless you are simply content to b-tch and whine and take what ever you are given. THAT seems to me to be more "lemminglike", then standing up on my hind legs and saying "NO". Rat like , but definately not lemming. My assumption was that if people were so unhappy with situation that this rant fest should threaten to over take the "thread" in volume , then perhaps , maybe people might like to do something about it. I can't speak for anyone else , nor would I presume to. I simply said that I won't buy any more games till this and the Harpoon fiasco are sorted out. If nothing else , I feel that I've gotten the moderators attention , and perhaps they will pass my concerns along. A little bit different that the usual "Oh gee this S-CKS! " See you at the botton of the cliff Buck.
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ORIGINAL: Buck Beach

This AW1Steve is a real basket case. A boycott of one should be very effective. Can't see many lemmings following him over the cliff.

I'm cool with you Matrix. You have given me too many hours of fun too be upset over something so trivial. Looking forward to anything you produce in your continuing support of this fine game.



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RE: Im-Possible WITP News - 11/1/2007 2:48:03 AM   
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That would be Dec 7, 2007......................I am going to hold you guys to that.

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RE: Im-Possible WITP News - 11/1/2007 3:05:51 AM   
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Just to clarify things for you a bit....I have no affiliation with Matrix other than as a customer.

My intent was to try and generate a little discussion on what I would like to see happen, and to hear from others about what they would hope to see. That type of discussion is far more than some people can handle, however.

So I would like to suggest that a new thread be started....it could even be called "Children of the Corn"....and you could please just carry on over there. Elsewhere. Anywhere but here.

Speculation is now complete. I'll return my keyboard back to Too Much Trouble.

But first, as an ex-Marine I would say that the most important date is 10 November.....the birthday of the Marine Corps.

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RE: Im-Possible WITP News - 11/1/2007 3:26:42 AM   
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Children of the candy corn (hey , it's Halloween). - 11/1/2007 3:49:49 AM   
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Just to clarify things for you a bit....I have no affiliation with Matrix other than as a customer.

My intent was to try and generate a little discussion on what I would like to see happen, and to hear from others about what they would hope to see. That type of discussion is far more than some people can handle, however.

So I would like to suggest that a new thread be started....it could even be called "Children of the Corn"....and you could please just carry on over there. Elsewhere. Anywhere but here.

Speculation is now complete. I'll return my keyboard back to Too Much Trouble.

But first, as an ex-Marine I would say that the most important date is 10 November.....the birthday of the Marine Corps.

Err....I thought that wa former Marine? I had understood that there are no "ex-Marines". Of course I'm only an ex-squid.

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RE: Im-Possible WITP News - 11/1/2007 4:43:28 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins
The timeframe is not set in stone, but there's a very famous anniversary coming up that's extremely important to WITP and you should know by then.


I think he means my Birthday - June 7th.



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RE: Im-Possible WITP News - 11/1/2007 4:56:06 AM   
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December 25th - Christmas!

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RE: Im-Possible WITP News - 11/1/2007 4:56:57 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

Any excess teasing I blame on Terminus.



It may be cruel? But in the future I see a fire in a giant pit, with Erik turning the spit... slowly roasting Terminus cooking him until it is safe to eat. Well at least as safe as possible cosidering the what is being cooked.

Who is bringing the beer?




Gee, flipper, why don't you tell us how you really feel...

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RE: Im-Possible WITP News - 11/1/2007 5:06:31 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Terminus


quote:

ORIGINAL: flipperwasirish


quote:

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

Any excess teasing I blame on Terminus.



It may be cruel? But in the future I see a fire in a giant pit, with Erik turning the spit... slowly roasting Terminus cooking him until it is safe to eat. Well at least as safe as possible cosidering the what is being cooked.

Who is bringing the beer?




Gee, flipper, why don't you tell us how you really feel...


I had too many shots of Canadian whisky last night. So is it okay if I bring the BBQ sauce instead to this party? Everyone is invited.

Who needs pork or chicken when we have Terminus.....real chef's favorite BBQ meat

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RE: Im-Possible WITP News - 11/1/2007 7:44:13 AM   
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December 22, the day Dive Bomber1 and I started our PBEM.



I have it on good authority from Terminus that the WitP model will be completely changed. Even the name is changing to MitP (Misunderstanding in the Pacific). Matrix is growing tired of their "niche" clientèle and is seeking to expand into new demographics as yet untouched by their products.

Instead of opaque die rolls on an invisible Combat Result Table, there will be transparent results of a die roll on the Encounter Result Table. In the case of two opposing forces encountering each other on the new Earth Tone, energy saving map, some of the new possible results are:

1) Understand and respect each other's differences.
2) Realize diversity in the Greater East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere is desirable.
3) Erect windmills in Palembang.
4) A whale is saved.
5) Share equipment so neither side has an unfair advantage.
6) Sit on organic cotton rugs and sing "Kum Ba Yah" over herbal tea and tofu.
7) Reduce Global Warming by 1%.
8) Select Mike Scholl as World Benevolent Despot.

In the case of one of the players feeling disenfranchised by a die result, that player may select a new result that gives him/her/it a better feeling of self-worth, and the other player is to respect that the upset player is special and unique in his/her/its own way.

I can't wait for the new AAR's!


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RE: Im-Possible WITP News - 11/1/2007 9:27:51 AM   
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LoL, Tiger. But they wouldn't be "AARs." They'd be "AIRs" -- After Inaction Reports. Or maybe "ATIOTDTKAMURs" -- "After Talk It Out Til Daylight Then Kiss And Make Up Reports." Er, maybe AIRs is catchier.

Me, I'm just glad that the Powers that Be haven't forgotten WiTP. Maybe they notice the rather large volume of fanatical posts in this forum...

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RE: Im-Possible WITP News - 11/1/2007 1:41:23 PM   
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LoL, Tiger. But they wouldn't be "AARs." They'd be "AIRs" -- After Inaction Reports. Or maybe "ATIOTDTKAMURs" -- "After Talk It Out Til Daylight Then Kiss And Make Up Reports." Er, maybe AIRs is catchier.



ooh - so, the people who would be fanatics about the revamped game could be known as AIRheads...

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RE: Im-Possible WITP News - 11/1/2007 2:45:57 PM   
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RE: Im-Possible WITP News - 11/1/2007 8:47:26 PM   
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This AW1Steve is a real basket case. A boycott of one should be very effective. Can't see many lemmings following him over the cliff.

I'm cool with you Matrix. You have given me too many hours of fun too be upset over something so trivial. Looking forward to anything you produce in your continuing support of this fine game.


Listen up: Attacking a person on these boards is neither wanted or appreciated. There are plenty of "flame-war" boards out there. I would appreciate it if you spend your energy attacking the person's postition with a well thought out and verbalized argument vice going after the person who already did that.
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RE: Im-Possible WITP News - 11/2/2007 12:29:04 AM   
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4) A whale is saved.


The federation of Dolphins demands at least equal protection given the whales!!!


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RE: Im-Possible WITP News - 11/2/2007 1:50:22 AM   
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quote:

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4) A whale is saved.


The federation of Dolphins demands at least equal protection given the whales!!!



Please post all such "requests" in the proper thread:

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=687130

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RE: Im-Possible WITP News - 11/3/2007 12:08:20 AM   
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On Dec 7th, Eric will announce that WitP II will ship shortly and that it is a WEGO system so no database change and existing games are good to go. The WitP landscpe changes as we know it ......

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RE: Im-Possible WITP News - 11/3/2007 1:06:22 AM   
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We've said as much as we can say at this point. Any excess teasing I blame on Terminus.

Seriously though, would you rather we don't warn you that something's in the works? We'll tell you more as soon as we can.


Yes, if you got something to say, say it! This announcement of a comming announcement is pure BS!


I'm will waitting for sub transporting to be fixed

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RE: Im-Possible WITP News - 11/3/2007 2:23:46 AM   
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I'm will waitting for sub transporting to be fixed



What do you use to transport subs? I didn't know you could transport subs... has something changed in my absence?

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RE: Im-Possible WITP News - 11/3/2007 6:52:15 AM   
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On Dec 7th, Eric will announce that WitP II will ship shortly and that it is a WEGO system so no database change and existing games are good to go. The WitP landscpe changes as we know it ......


That is a very poor way to look at things IMO. If you set your expectations too high, you will surely be disappointed. My prediction for the announcement will be that a new patch reduces the stock flak gap by 1000 ft., AND all current games are non-compatible.



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RE: Im-Possible WITP News - 11/3/2007 6:54:47 AM   
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RE: Im-Possible WITP News - 11/3/2007 1:58:44 PM   
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I am fairly certain that one of their goals is that in order to create a more "close-knit" community, they have eliminated all PBEM play and greatly enhanced the AI. All PBEM'ers will then be required to play "hotseat", but this will result in no noticeable increase in the worldwide demand for non-blonde female roommates. However, the sales of the game will increase significantly due to the worldwide rejoicing that will occur when it is known that the game actually has a credible AI that works even beyond the first year of gameplay. With more revenue and increased interest, the rumored WITP II would then have a realistic chance of actually happening.

As long as we are dreaming, of course.

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