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france surender? - 8/23/2007 5:27:06 PM   
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ok, seems something amiss here, I have taken all but 36 points worth of cities and France is listed as "weak" They hold only a few cities along the coast and their army is decimated. To do this I have REALLY streached the Germans, listed as Strong and the Autrians and Turks and Bulgs are barely holding against the reds and greaks.. serbisa too refused to surender with one city left!

So, what does it take to knock out France?
( I am not playing the patched yet.. another issue.. thanks)
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RE: france surender? - 8/23/2007 8:42:06 PM   
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They start at 100 in morale and loses morale equal to the full value of each French city you take, so you more or less always have to take Paris.

For each exhaustion level they lose a further 20 in morale which most of the time also is a requirement.

Other factors like lost capital ships, food shortages, surrender of allies also can influence but in France it's basically irrelevant.

In my experience you have to push your border to Dijon northwards to Paris and Rouen and take the cities in between. If able to add Orleans or Lyon you don't have to maul the French army that much but they will probably be in your way no matter what

But basically add up city points and other factors when you lay a strategy and figure how that adds up to the magic number 100

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RE: france surender? - 8/23/2007 8:45:33 PM   
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I just made a quick count of French cities and came to the conclusion that France still holds Lyon ?

You either have to take Lyon or maul their army enough to cross that exhaustion level which should do the trick.

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RE: france surender? - 8/23/2007 9:40:28 PM   
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they do.. but not orleans.. and do they need to reach 0?

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RE: france surender? - 8/23/2007 9:47:16 PM   
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Yep and they get one turn to take back cities to get above 0 again.

Just get you artillery to the south and blast your way to Lyon to end it one way or another.

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RE: france surender? - 8/23/2007 10:07:20 PM   
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Lyon andthe mighty French fell! and 'non too sone!
So I gues to lose I would need to completely fall apart in the east and the Brits would need to take out turkey.. my error was .. OOPS, I failed to build armies after 1914 and just reinforced what I had.. I did maintain airsuperiority though, now to see what we can do about those pesky russians!

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RE: france surender? - 8/23/2007 10:17:50 PM   
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Great

I seldom get to build new units with Germany. Refitting existing units and replacing offensive points is usually all i can afford.

Careful about victory points. I don't quite recall how it's worked out but it's something like you loose half your victory points or so pr. year. So if the game goes into 1919 you have to pull a leg or two somewhere else preferably sending Lenin to Russia


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RE: france surender? - 8/24/2007 1:20:42 AM   
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does the game ever end? that is before 1919 without you chossing "end now" at year end? ie will either side face total loss?

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RE: france surender? - 8/24/2007 1:21:41 AM   
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Yes - if Germany is forced to surrender, or both France and Russia surrender then the game ends with a decisive victory to the other side.

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RE: france surender? - 8/24/2007 1:22:44 AM   
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thanks, super quick response award of the day

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