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Help - 1/14/2007 1:31:12 PM   
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Is it possible to attach destroyers and sub chasers to accompany badly damaged Carrier or battleship when you transport them from base to base (without CPU to detach them all of time from the group automatically)?

I didn't bother this much as chance to encounter sub seemed to be small so I stopped using escorts for badly damaged ships as they always were automatically detached until I lost one BB and one CV witch both had no escorts and SS sunk both of them while traveling damaged but not flooding or under fire toward Truk.

Sadness of losing CV was that it was torpedoed by sub at 3 different turns continually until it sunk finally and am pretty sure if there would have been escorts around my CV would have survived even if torpedoed once or twice. And I had to watch helplessly cursing myself 3 turns of life battle of my CV.



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RE: Help - 1/14/2007 4:13:48 PM   
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Unfortunately this is a quirk in the game.

The only thing you can do is to set the DD to follow the damaged ship with "do not retire" orders....however as it is not in the same taskforce I don't know if it would deter any attacking sub.....

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RE: Help - 1/14/2007 5:37:38 PM   
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I don’t mean to be smart ass game is great otherwise one of the best war games and you need to sacrifice ships sometimes to get operations done but it’s horrible that DD that are supposed to be escort ships detach from CV and BB and leave it alone to vultures. CV and BB are too expensive to lose needlessly. I never bothered it until I lost 700 points worth of ships because of it.

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RE: Help - 1/14/2007 8:25:40 PM   
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There are plenty of things in this game that make players want to tear their hair out.....yet we still come back for more.

Just wait until the enemy carriers blow yours out of the water....whilst your airstrikes attack a minesweeper in the hex next to his carriers

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RE: Help - 1/14/2007 8:51:48 PM   
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In my recent game it was a Japanese ML. My boys blew it out of the water while my carriers were whiped out by Jap carriers........... thanks Fuelli

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RE: Help - 1/14/2007 10:42:04 PM   
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Per Rules:

Whenever a battleship or carrier detaches itself from a TF, the computer will attempt to detach an additional ship to escort the capital ship. This ship will be some kind of anti-submarine fighting ship (generally a destroyer). These two ships will never be automatically separated from each other.

I think the above will only occur when the TF is being AI controlled.

If manually detached, then:
a) only select 1 DD or 1 other ASW vessel per capital ship
b) ensure all go into the same new TF
c) set TF Destination as Home Port
d) ensure retirement status of TF is Retirement Allowed
e) call up individual ships to check all the above details have changed
on each and adjust as req'd.

I.E. Do not expect the AI to get all of the above correct if choosing eg "Return to Truk" and if you give your orders any other way ensure you have covered each facet of the order system.

If this does not work - then I suggust the original TF has it's retirement Status as Retirement Allowed, so hopefully if a capital ship is damaged
the entire TF retires; it's 1 ship OR the mission.

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RE: Help - 1/14/2007 11:23:30 PM   
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A TF of ASW ships set to follow and patrol do not retire with an aggressive TF commander will attack any subs it detects. This should prevent 3 consecutive turns of anguish. The ASW ships shouldn't be green crews or they'll do nothing.

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RE: Help - 1/17/2007 11:19:19 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: vonCommander

In my recent game it was a Japanese ML. My boys blew it out of the water while my carriers were whiped out by Jap carriers........... thanks Fuelli


And I am really missing this ML...

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RE: Help - 1/17/2007 12:59:50 PM   
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MLs are 1 of Japan's most deadly weapons.

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RE: Help - 1/18/2007 11:29:25 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: fuelli

quote:

ORIGINAL: vonCommander

In my recent game it was a Japanese ML. My boys blew it out of the water while my carriers were whiped out by Jap carriers........... thanks Fuelli


And I am really missing this ML...




I HOPE SO!!!!!

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