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stjeand -> stjeand(Axis) vs Nirosi(Allies) Nirosi may look (8/14/2021 8:11:57 PM)

So this will be my first game with the new garrison rules.

Starting out normal...Losses are a little higher than normal but it is what it is.

Airforce does not engage and heads for France and Denmark. I normally lose 2 or 3 air and that is just a waste since the Poles don't last.



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stjeand -> RE: stjeand(Axis) vs Nirosi(Allies) No Nirosi for now (8/14/2021 8:17:49 PM)

Turn 2 starts out good...Denmark falls...but then all turns south in Poland.
Somehow Krakow holds out.
And Germans losses are high...nearly 30 land fall to the Polish...

Heavy losses and Poland does not surrender next turn. Though it will for sure on turn 3 but that will not help the Netherland campaign.

Not sure I have ever had a turn go this poorly...

At least the Uboats sink 2 MS to start, though with the new rules the UK get 20 in January from Norway so...need to sink a lot more.

Forgot to build...but will be an armor next turn. Should not matter overall.

Moving forces to the Netherlands front incase he invades Lux as the French unit there ungarrisoned.

Now I know that the British have nothing good in the UK...the French are the only issue. But I don't think I could take the Netherlands before the weather turned without any armor so I will probably have to sit.




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stjeand -> RE: stjeand(Axis) vs Nirosi(Allies) No Nirosi for now (8/14/2021 9:17:27 PM)

Turn 3

4 MS sunk...

Decide due to heavy loses to go all in for experience, which is something that you can not buy.

Do very well this turn...2 losses overall but many units up 3 exp points...one armor is at 78 with a few losses. That is something that is irreplacable.

Hopefully the cost is justified. Final losses in Poland 30 land...

Airforce massing on the Netherland border just in case...but the French do not invade Luxemburg.




sveint -> RE: stjeand(Axis) vs Nirosi(Allies) No Nirosi for now (8/14/2021 9:39:36 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: stjeand

Heavy losses and Poland does not surrender next turn. Though it will for sure on turn 3 but that will not help the Netherland campaign.



I think you're better off using air units against Poland.




Flaviusx -> RE: stjeand(Axis) vs Nirosi(Allies) No Nirosi for now (8/14/2021 9:45:50 PM)

I myself send some west, but surely not all the air. Especially not the two ground support.

It's no big deal, but lesson learned for the future.






stjeand -> RE: stjeand(Axis) vs Nirosi(Allies) No Nirosi for now (8/14/2021 10:52:06 PM)

I have not used air in Poland in my last 10+ games...Just weird was all.

But a huge experience boost on many units that I rarely get. That "extra" turn gave a lot of experience killing all the unsupplied Poles.




MagicMissile -> RE: stjeand(Axis) vs Nirosi(Allies) No Nirosi for now (8/15/2021 2:19:25 AM)

Good luck looking forward to read the AAR

/MM




stjeand -> RE: stjeand(Axis) vs Nirosi(Allies) No Nirosi for now (8/16/2021 12:06:16 PM)

Performed a little testing.
Seems that the Germans take heavier losses in Poland now. I played 4 games total.
Even with air not much better.

Turn 4

Built another armor
Uboats get hammered...3 hits for 4 MS...not a good trade.
Units rail to the Western front to dig in for the winter.




stjeand -> RE: stjeand(Axis) vs Nirosi(Allies) No Nirosi for now (8/16/2021 2:48:39 PM)

Turn 5

Germany builds an armor that will not arrive until mid May...but better than a mech.

Italy builds an armor

Uboat sinks 1 MS. Other returns to port for repairs.




stjeand -> RE: stjeand(Axis) vs Nirosi(Allies) No Nirosi for now (8/16/2021 4:50:32 PM)

Turn 6

No MS sunk...repairs begin on the Uboat.
Uboat at sea runs out of supply.
New Uboat arrives but waits for the others to head to sea.

Nothing built...




stjeand -> RE: stjeand(Axis) vs Nirosi(Allies) No Nirosi for now (8/16/2021 6:18:15 PM)

Turn 7

Mech built
Uboats set out to sea...no rest.
UK gets a free 20 MS now so a few more turns of work to sink those.
BUT Norway now gives 28MS and Netherlands 20...In the end it works out to the same except the UK gets the free 20 whether you attack Norway or not.

IF you can actually capture Norway prior to October you basically get rid of the 20 free MS...but it is just to much for a single division.
I tried and tried...Used the full Kriegsmarine and Luftwaffe...and still could not do it.
I suspect would need some major luck to pull it off.




stjeand -> RE: stjeand(Axis) vs Nirosi(Allies) No Nirosi for now (8/16/2021 6:44:26 PM)

Turn 8

Mech built
Uboats sink 3MS...

Current builds for France...more supply truck to be built.
Have to decide in the next few turns, subs if BOA going well or air if not for France.

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stjeand -> RE: stjeand(Axis) vs Nirosi(Allies) No Nirosi for now (8/16/2021 7:31:41 PM)

Turn 9

2 MS sunk
Nothing built




stjeand -> RE: stjeand(Axis) vs Nirosi(Allies) No Nirosi for now (8/16/2021 8:48:16 PM)

Turn 10

5MS sunk
Built another armor which will arrive in July...just incase.
If not needed can head right to Yugoslavia




stjeand -> RE: stjeand(Axis) vs Nirosi(Allies) No Nirosi for now (8/16/2021 10:45:28 PM)

Turn 11

6MS sunk
Built LC and supply trucks.
Italians built a Mech




stjeand -> RE: stjeand(Axis) vs Nirosi(Allies) No Nirosi for now (8/16/2021 11:12:17 PM)

Turn 12

3MS sunk, subs take 2 hits
Built all supply trucks. Should have 180 for turn 1 of the attack.
Italians build 2 LC and convert tac to naval and set for upgrade to 1940 tech.
Ya I know the Italians are terrible...but never know when they might get a shot against the UK navy.




stjeand -> RE: stjeand(Axis) vs Nirosi(Allies) No Nirosi for now (8/17/2021 1:13:22 AM)

Turn 13

Uboats rest repair relax and head back out to sea
Build 1 supply truck and start the final repairs on my units and Panzer upgrade.
Italians begin repairs




stjeand -> RE: stjeand(Axis) vs Nirosi(Allies) No Nirosi for now (8/17/2021 1:55:36 AM)

Turn 14

2MS sunk
Built German Paratrooper, and will upgrade one Panzer still
Italians pause repairs so they can build their paratrooper in 2 turns.




stjeand -> RE: stjeand(Axis) vs Nirosi(Allies) No Nirosi for now (8/17/2021 10:57:15 AM)

Turn 15

Rough turn on the seas.

7MS and 2 Escorts sunk...BUT 4 Uboat hits. Never took 4 hits with 6 escorts before.
Built an armor and 2 supply trucks.




stjeand -> RE: stjeand(Axis) vs Nirosi(Allies) No Nirosi for now (8/17/2021 5:28:06 PM)

Turn 16

1 MS sunk 1 Uboat hit...
Italy built a paratrooper

Germany's science minister reports, Assault, Breakthrough, Fighter Bomber and Attack Sub all are increased.

Units start arriving next turn for the attack on France.
So far just see a Canadian and one UK units...expect them to be corps, in France.




stjeand -> RE: stjeand(Axis) vs Nirosi(Allies) No Nirosi for now (8/17/2021 8:18:04 PM)

Turn 17
3MS sunk by 1 uboat.
Germany build another Uboat

Mech arrives and moves towards the French border.

Will be ready to launch the offensive in early May...IF next turn is clear may be able to attack but not sure of that.




stjeand -> RE: stjeand(Axis) vs Nirosi(Allies) No Nirosi for now (8/17/2021 9:15:01 PM)

Turn 18
1MS sunk...1 Uboat hit.
Two Uboats in port for upgrade and full repair. 1 heads out to sea.
Build another Uboat.
Armor and Mech arrive with a pile of supplies.

Sadly a clear April. Can't risk taking Belgium with 2 armor and 1 mech not upgraded.
Heavy armor should increase this turn and 2 mech and 1 armor are scheduled to receive their new PzIII medium tanks for the French countryside.
They have a hardtop and leather seats.




stjeand -> RE: stjeand(Axis) vs Nirosi(Allies) No Nirosi for now (8/18/2021 5:55:33 PM)

Turn 19...

Well France took the initiative and struck at Luxemburg. Due to this I had to modify my plans.
They did not go all that well.
Netherlands fell...but at quite a cost.
Took 8 Armor / Mech damage. Way higher than normal. None of their units were garrisoned so it is strange.
But air wise...shot down 9+ UK bombers...with losses of 2 fighters.

Uboats sink 2 MS and 1 escort...but he gains 10 MS and 3 escorts with the Netherlands.

No builds.

I will have a screen shot next turn since I forgot.

UK has 3 units in France...with one Canadian. Lots of space around to drop a paratrooper...so keeping my eyes open for a good spot. Any chance to take out some UK units.

Have to attack Belgium now over the river with armor. Expect more losses...may cause an issue in France if I lose another 8.




stjeand -> Belgium falls (8/18/2021 9:41:16 PM)

Turn 20

A line if infantry smash into the Belgian northern front hammering their defenses...
With a lull the panzers move forward and smash the front and drive straight into the capital with stukas flying above.
No air losses this turn.
I believe I lost 4 armor in this attack and 3 to 5 infantry.
Did not get up to the French line as I did not want to wear more of my units out.
My 90% exp Panzer is at 43% efficiency and it has moved off the front line. Can it get it to 100%?
I am not a fan of the efficiency changes. Even a paratrooper sitting in a city for 2 turns can't get to 100% when it was at 90%, and an HQ is nearby.

Uboat war is not going well...2MS for 2 Uboat hits.

With Belgium clear the German infantry plan to move up next turn to soften the French line.
Another armor joins the battle...2 at 100%...
Will take our time with France...as I want the infantry to wear down the line.

This is what it looks like after that turn.


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stjeand -> RE: Belgium falls (8/19/2021 10:34:18 AM)

Turn 21

Build Armor
6MS and escort sunk for 2 uboat hits.

More of a set up. Made 2 attacks. One to soften Lille...the other a French retreat.
There is a big hole on the other side of the main line...not sure if that is on purpose or..."Its a trap"


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stjeand -> RE: Belgium falls (8/19/2021 4:26:28 PM)

Turn 22

Uboats sink 5MS and an escort, no uboat hits. But he has a LOT of escorts. Dont remember being able to get 20+ by now but maybe he built a pile of them early.

Continue pounding the French, unleashed the Luftwaffe. They take some heavy damage but inflict more.
Shatter the French Anti-tank infantry with minimal losses...Still trying to get a breakthrough...close but just not there yet.
Paratroopers are waiting to jump...



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stjeand -> France Breakthrough (8/20/2021 12:52:58 PM)

Turn 23

Uboats sink 3MS no hits.

The battle for France has taken what I would call a disasterous turn for the Germans.
Losses seem staggering. They are equal to that of what France has taken...while the UK is unaffected.

Wondering what went so badly?
This is my first game with the new changes.

I know the attack on the Netherlands was a horrific disaster.
Belgium seemed okay...
Air losses are large but will taper off now that the French should not be able to field an airforce.
But I believe the UK fighters have barely been scratched. Engaging them could cripple the Luftwaffe.

107 land casualties, 50 air...for the Germans
112 land casualties, 50 air for the French.
1 land, around 30 air for the UK.




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stjeand -> RE: France Breakthrough (8/21/2021 1:27:22 AM)

Turn 24

Losses are mounting still...
2MS and 2Uboat hits. Not going well at sea.

France taking HUGE armor/mech losses. I think I have had 40 or so through the battle...
But I am on the outskirts of finishing them off.


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Harrybanana -> RE: France Breakthrough (8/21/2021 3:07:00 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: stjeand

Turn 23

Uboats sink 3MS no hits.

The battle for France has taken what I would call a disasterous turn for the Germans.
Losses seem staggering. They are equal to that of what France has taken...while the UK is unaffected.

Wondering what went so badly?
This is my first game with the new changes.

I know the attack on the Netherlands was a horrific disaster.
Belgium seemed okay...
Air losses are large but will taper off now that the French should not be able to field an airforce.
But I believe the UK fighters have barely been scratched. Engaging them could cripple the Luftwaffe.

107 land casualties, 50 air...for the Germans
112 land casualties, 50 air for the French.
1 land, around 30 air for the UK.


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Under the old Rules the Germans could take 300 casualties (land and air combined) some of which were actual destroyed units, and still win the game. So you will be fine.




Flaviusx -> RE: France Breakthrough (8/21/2021 3:39:11 AM)

What Harry said. Your losses here are trivial and you are in perfectly good shape.




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