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thomasharvey -> RE: WAW 1939-1945 PO Version 62221 Allied Human vs Axis Bot (8/1/2021 3:13:58 PM)

T31 3/30/40 The British are ready to defend the Suez Canal. British units destroyed in France have been reconstituted in Egypt.

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thomasharvey -> RE: WAW 1939-1945 PO Version 62221 Allied Human vs Axis Bot (8/1/2021 3:32:33 PM)

T32 4/6/40 The peace loving Bot is already preparing another invasion. This time in Yugoslavia. Note the RR engineers getting ready... This may be considered a threat making Yugoslavia declare war. If that happens then the Yugoslav defenders can move ahead of the invasion. Without that it may be a short war. The loss of Belgrade causes the surrender. The defenders are spread out trying to defend all the borders. If I can move them ahead of time Belgrade will last a long time.

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thomasharvey -> RE: WAW 1939-1945 PO Version 62221 Allied Human vs Axis Bot (8/1/2021 3:37:38 PM)

T21 4/6/40 Paris has turned into a "Stalingrad." The center of Paris is now dense urban ruin. However, there will be no rescue of the valiant French defenders. They will have to wait until 1943 or later for their liberation.

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thomasharvey -> RE: WAW 1939-1945 PO Version 62221 Allied Human vs Axis Bot (8/1/2021 4:01:09 PM)

T32 4/6/40 The Italian Axis Bot is itching to invade Egypt. They have no idea what is waiting for them. The Italians will need rescue quickly..

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thomasharvey -> RE: WAW 1939-1945 PO Version 62221 Allied Human vs Axis Bot (8/1/2021 4:22:56 PM)

T33 4/13.40 France surrenders! Italy now declares war.

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thomasharvey -> RE: WAW 1939-1945 PO Version 62221 Allied Human vs Axis Bot (8/1/2021 4:59:52 PM)

T33 4/13/40 The Italians invade Egypt. The Allied defenders at Alamein do not activate until turn 39. So, the Italians will get in the first attacks at Alamein. I could use the Suez troops now but I want the Italians to get in deep before I wipe them out.

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thomasharvey -> RE: WAW 1939-1945 PO Version 62221 Allied Human vs Axis Bot (8/1/2021 5:15:08 PM)

T33 April 13, 1940 This view shows something I almost did not notice. Two German units moved by rail up to the Northern border which activated the Yugo 3d Ter Army. I could send them into battle now at the intruder but I would suspect more Germans on the rail that are not visible. I will move them towards Belgrade instead while movement is clear. The Yugoslav defenders do not activate until turn 82 normally. I think that date was chosen due to a pro western government taking over in or around March of 41. The Axis player had better invade before then to prevent hordes of troops causing havoc.

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thomasharvey -> RE: WAW 1939-1945 PO Version 62221 Allied Human vs Axis Bot (8/1/2021 5:17:25 PM)

T33 4/13/40 Here is a large view of the historical set up of Yugoslavia before the invasion. I hope to move some of them to defend Belgrade before it is too late.

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thomasharvey -> RE: WAW 1939-1945 PO Version 62221 Allied Human vs Axis Bot (8/1/2021 8:47:06 PM)

T34 4/20/40 Here are the panzers adjacent to Belgrade! I must now use what is able to move and blow bridges and cut Axis supply, etc.

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thomasharvey -> RE: WAW 1939-1945 PO Version 62221 Allied Human vs Axis Bot (8/1/2021 9:05:01 PM)

T34 4/20/40 The front I forget about is Italian East Afrika. The Italians have substantial forces there even though they are cut off from Italy. They can hold out and cause trouble if not deal with. For the time being I will defend at Port Sudan to keep the Italians from marching into Egypt. When I have extra troops I will invade their lair and eliminate them.

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thomasharvey -> RE: WAW 1939-1945 PO Version 62221 Allied Human vs Axis Bot (8/1/2021 9:11:14 PM)

T34 4/20/40 One of the units defending British Somaliland is the gallant, wait for it,
"Allied Forces East Africa Command, Somaliland Camel Corps!" Their proficiency is poor but their readiness is high.

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thomasharvey -> RE: WAW 1939-1945 PO Version 62221 Allied Human vs Axis Bot (8/1/2021 9:20:34 PM)

T34 4/20/40 Here is the initial Belgrade defense. If the two panzer divisions attack Belgrade next turn they might take it. That would end in a cheap victory for the Bot. I can't let that happen!

As indicated there are most likely many more units on the rail going to attack Belgrade shortly. Most are not visible.

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thomasharvey -> RE: WAW 1939-1945 PO Version 62221 Allied Human vs Axis Bot (8/1/2021 10:37:24 PM)

T35 4/27/40 Now a word about Malta. The Axis never invaded or attempted to invade Malta. They bombed it instead thinking that was enough. In this scenario the Axis Bot will never attack it with ground troops but will shell it severely with its navy and will bomb it as well. A human opponent would do something different probably.

As the Allies I just dig in the troops until they are finally shelled to death. I thought ships could not take a land port. However, sometimes they can. Here they sometimes do take possession of Malta after shelling off all the defensive units. As the allied player I thought I would sail in some extra troops when Italy is at peace. I found out that the Italian air force is always on duty. Even at peace they attacked and sunk most or all of my troops. The Royal Navy also gets hit hard trying to reach Malta.

So I just leave it. If it remains under my control I might stage some naval bombers there and strike the Italian bombardment fleet with good results. However, they are instantly shelled into oblivion so expect only one good strike. In the early war the Allies can't afford that but later they can.

The screen shot shows over 20 Italian ships shelling away turn after turn, round after round. Some Italian ships were damaged/sunk by shore batteries until the batteries were evaporated.


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thomasharvey -> RE: WAW 1939-1945 PO Version 62221 Allied Human vs Axis Bot (8/1/2021 10:51:17 PM)

T35 4/27/40 This view shows Yugoslavia declares war on the Axis. That activates all the main troops except for the border police units that stay as garrisons in place. The view also shows German units invading from Italy and also Italian Alpine troops also invading from there. The Yugoslavian army units are doing their best to delay the capture of Belgrade. Most of the rivers have been blown as well.

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thomasharvey -> RE: WAW 1939-1945 PO Version 62221 Allied Human vs Axis Bot (8/1/2021 11:11:09 PM)

T35 4/27/40 The first battle of Alamein is a UK victory. The area in blue needs to watched as troops on foot can cross the Qattara Depression. The Bot always sends something through there.

I waited until the Italians made contact to activate my first units. Others will activate on turn 39. At that point I will retake Egypt. However, I will not send troops to Greece and I will not enter Libya just yet.

Sailing to Greece could end in disaster like going to Malta and entering Libya will activate additional Axis troops. If Tobruk is taken the Afrika Korps will be activated and land at Tripoli. Their assignment is to take the Suez Canal. That would result in a loss of 2% of all allied replacements. That is permanent.

Also, the farther you go into Libya the more Italian troops are activated for duty in Libya. This of course exceeds the ability for the Axis to supply them all so the supply to all Axis troops in Afrika is limited to 50% of normal. Since there are very few rail lines in Afrika, all forces have to deal with low supply.

These extra troops to Afrika are actual units that are taken from other areas. Once they surrender in Afrika they are never reformed. They were not historically sent but could have been had supply not been drastically reduced by the ULTRA intercepts sinking the cargo. Further, actual ground troops and equipment was handled differently than supply resulting in the vast majority getting through.

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thomasharvey -> RE: WAW 1939-1945 PO Version 62221 Allied Human vs Axis Bot (8/2/2021 2:03:15 AM)

T38 5/18/40 Belgrade is slowing the Germans for now.


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thomasharvey -> RE: WAW 1939-1945 PO Version 62221 Allied Human vs Axis Bot (8/2/2021 2:05:00 AM)

T38 5/18/40 The Italians are being crushed in Egypt.

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thomasharvey -> RE: WAW 1939-1945 PO Version 62221 Allied Human vs Axis Bot (8/2/2021 2:32:14 AM)

T39 5/25/40 Malta belongs to the Duce! I thought it would last longer. Maybe the battle of the Malta convoys should be reconsidered.

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thomasharvey -> RE: WAW 1939-1945 PO Version 62221 Allied Human vs Axis Bot (8/2/2021 2:34:27 AM)

T39 5/25/40 This is Fortress Belgrade and we are fighting! Most of the bridges have been blown.

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thomasharvey -> RE: WAW 1939-1945 PO Version 62221 Allied Human vs Axis Bot (8/2/2021 4:03:42 AM)

T41 6/8/40 Greece declares war against Axis. I think it may have been the unit circled in blue or maybe and Axis air strike. Not sure but now all the Greek troops are activated.

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thomasharvey -> RE: WAW 1939-1945 PO Version 62221 Allied Human vs Axis Bot (8/2/2021 4:09:07 AM)

T41 6/8/40 The Italian mountain troops may take Belgrade from the west. That has happened before. I will not send in Greek or British troops to try and save Belgrade.

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thomasharvey -> RE: WAW 1939-1945 PO Version 62221 Allied Human vs Axis Bot (8/2/2021 4:57:22 AM)

T42 6/15/40 Belgrade has been encircled and is now out of supply. A relief force is coming up from the south to save them but I doubt that will work.

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thomasharvey -> RE: WAW 1939-1945 PO Version 62221 Allied Human vs Axis Bot (8/2/2021 6:23:30 AM)

T44 6/29/40 The relief effort to Belgrade failed so Greece is retreating south to a more narrow front. Further, the Greek Army is having trouble with a single weak German division near Kavala.

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thomasharvey -> RE: WAW 1939-1945 PO Version 62221 Allied Human vs Axis Bot (8/2/2021 6:27:56 AM)

T44 6/29/40 Libya is under threat so the Italian 7th Korps is activated in North Afrika. I thought I could retake Egypt but no. The Duce feels threatened! So now I will send additional units from England to Egypt via the Suez Canal. More on that later.

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thomasharvey -> RE: WAW 1939-1945 PO Version 62221 Allied Human vs Axis Bot (8/2/2021 6:40:46 AM)

T45 7/6/40 Note the Bot is forming up for Barbarossa still a year away. That is another reason the Bot is in a hurry to finish the invasions prior to 6/22/41. The Bot wants all their units placed and fully rested before attacking Russia. It will be a real challenge for the Allies to save Moscow.

One other issue relates to the "new mud and snow rules." I recently clicked them to off. I want less mud to help the Bot be more competitive. This can be done before or after the scenario starts.

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thomasharvey -> RE: WAW 1939-1945 PO Version 62221 Allied Human vs Axis Bot (8/2/2021 3:34:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thomasharvey

T44 6/29/40 Libya is under threat so the Italian 7th Korps is activated in North Afrika. I thought I could retake Egypt but no. The Duce feels threatened! So now I will send additional units from England to Egypt via the Suez Canal. More on that later.

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Here is a view showing some UK troops from England after two weeks at sea. On the next turn they will land at one or more ports indicated. The Royal Navy escort is required at this time of the war due to the German Commerce raiders, Q-Ships, sailing under the cover of stealth and fraud trying to ambush undefended ground troops at sea.

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thomasharvey -> RE: WAW 1939-1945 PO Version 62221 Allied Human vs Axis Bot (8/2/2021 3:44:29 PM)

T45 7/6/40 This view shows the Royal Navy spotting and then attacking two German Raiders off of Iceland. Until the Royal Navy ships sailed near them they were invisible. The Raiders are the equivalent of a light cruiser in firepower and range of 2 hexes. Therefore the Allies need to patrol or escort using battleships with a range of 3 and or aircraft carriers. Once spotted it is easy to move the carrier within range and the battleships within 3 hexes to destroy the raiders without loss. It was just luck that the BB force sent to pick up and escort a Canadian division from Canada to the UK spotted but did not get fired on. I moved by them at a range of 3 hexes. After spotting them I turned back to take care of business.

If the allies run into an ambush the Raiders fire first and can do a lot of damage to the allied forces whether they are ground troops or naval craft smaller than a BB.

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thomasharvey -> RE: WAW 1939-1945 PO Version 62221 Allied Human vs Axis Bot (8/2/2021 3:53:22 PM)

T45 7/6/40 Here is what the Raiders see. They are out of range and doomed at this point. There are about 8 Raiders that were used during the war over time. Some started the war at sea. Some even made it to the Pacific without being spotted. Others had to try and escape the Baltic into the Atlantic.

You will notice that the Raiders in the scenario look like Allied ships. The Atlantis has Royal Navy colors and the Widder looks like a US Navy ship. In a test game I thought they were my ships and actually tried to click on them and move them! I wonder how many times they were not spotted in the overall clutter of allied ships at sea...

Once all 10 raiders have been sunk the threat is gone. However, there is still the threat of Axis naval combat ships at sea to watch for.



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thomasharvey -> RE: WAW 1939-1945 PO Version 62221 Allied Human vs Axis Bot (8/2/2021 6:31:45 PM)

T47 July 20, 1940 Belgrade has fallen. Yugoslavia has surrendered.

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thomasharvey -> RE: WAW 1939-1945 PO Version 62221 Allied Human vs Axis Bot (8/2/2021 7:42:45 PM)

T48 7/27/40 This will the last stand of the Spartans.

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