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JJerrob14 -> Any way to Unlock the Finnish Front? (4/23/2021 4:31:06 AM)

Is there any way to unlock the Finnish front to play the Finns on map using the Editor?




RedLancer -> RE: Any way to Unlock the Finnish Front? (4/23/2021 6:09:10 AM)

Yes - you remove the Finnish Theatre Box and put the regions assigned to that TB back onto the map.




Floxolydian -> RE: Any way to Unlock the Finnish Front? (4/23/2021 7:56:31 AM)

Somebody's working on adding Bulgaria into the game, maybe he can give you some hints :)

Here's the mod's thread:

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4995781




antwniago -> RE: Any way to Unlock the Finnish Front? (4/23/2021 9:23:54 AM)

As someone has previously said you need to put the theatre box areas back on the map first, then it is a case of manually placing the relevant Finnish, German and Soviet units back onto the map either via the editor or CSV data.

By loading the generic data and looking at units and the map you can see where they would be located.

Be aware that at least 8 Finnish units have the wrong TOE in the generic data (they point to German static divisions) so can initially be hard to find.

So far I have all the ground units on map and setup the the axis air units, currently working on the soviet air units. You also need to set their frozen data via the CSV file (column AD) for when they activate.

Also I have deactivated the Finnish and Northern Front events that would normally run for the theatre box.

As has been pointed out elsewhere the game AI won''t handle the area well but I am only doing it for personal h2h play for fun, you need to ensure you make your own stop lines for combat until Leningrad falls and also a furthest point of deployment line for Finish forces - easy when you are both sides I guess.

To make it work for AI I believe you would need to create new scripts for the AI to follow and load them but I haven't played with scripts as yet.

Hope this helps you out.




MechFO -> RE: Any way to Unlock the Finnish Front? (4/23/2021 11:11:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: antwniago

As someone has previously said you need to put the theatre box areas back on the map first, then it is a case of manually placing the relevant Finnish, German and Soviet units back onto the map either via the editor or CSV data.

By loading the generic data and looking at units and the map you can see where they would be located.

So far I have all the ground units on map and setup the the axis air units, currently working on the soviet air units. You also need to set their frozen data via the CSV file (column AD) for when they activate.

Also I have deactivated the Finnish and Northern Front events that would normally run for the theatre box.

As has been pointed out elsewhere the game AI won''t handle the area well but I am only doing it for personal h2h play for fun, you need to ensure you make your own stop lines for combat until Leningrad falls and also a furthest point of deployment line for Finish forces - easy when you are both sides I guess.

To make it work for AI I believe you would need to create new scripts for the AI to follow and load them but I haven't played with scripts as yet.

Hope this helps you out.


Where did you cut off the map? If you cut it at row 71 so you only have the areas between Lake Segozero and Lage Onega, the Svir front and Leningrad active that doesn't seem that much extra for AI to handle.

Maybe also have a look at adding some possible depot dots along Leningrad-Murmansk rail line that can used for the supply system.

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ORIGINAL: antwniago
Be aware that at least 8 Finnish units have the wrong TOE in the generic data (they point to German static divisions) so can initially be hard to find.


Please post that kind of information in the Scenario Data/Map Issues sub forum.




JJerrob14 -> RE: Any way to Unlock the Finnish Front? (4/24/2021 1:16:48 AM)

Thanks all for the assistance! Love this community! I will let you know how it goes.




antwniago -> RE: Any way to Unlock the Finnish Front? (4/24/2021 10:45:48 AM)

Currently I have opened up all the way to Murmansk as all I am doing is looking to what happens with the front open. I shall run through some tests to see what the AI does if anything (it may not have been scripted to react I guess as Finland wasn't meant to be in the live area) and check out how supply runs.


I have posted the TOE errors in the Scenario Data/Map errors as you suggested,




JJerrob14 -> RE: Any way to Unlock the Finnish Front? (4/25/2021 3:06:22 AM)

Thanks great thanks!




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