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MikeJ19 -> RE: Russian Civil War - Phase 1, 2004 (7/20/2019 1:23:52 PM)

More planning details

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MikeJ19 -> RE: Russian Civil War - Phase 1, 2004 (7/21/2019 12:04:18 PM)

A look at timing

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MikeJ19 -> RE: Russian Civil War - Phase 1, 2004 (7/21/2019 12:35:27 PM)

Here is a look at the Rebel assets.

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Ancalagon451 -> RE: Russian Civil War - Phase 1, 2004 (7/21/2019 2:13:05 PM)

Just a pair little points about your enemy notes:

MiG-27 (and MiG-23BN if you ever encounter them in other scenarios) are the Strike variants of the Flogger family. So they are no threat against you air units at all. They will instead be used to threaten your ships with air to surface missiles. The ones they carry are relatively short ranged (20nm or less) so the threat they represent it's small, but not negligible.

AA-9 Has a nominal range of 90nm. Albeit against fighter-sized targets effective range goes down to roughly 70nm and jamming can reduce it even further, against bigger support units (AWACS, tankers, airliner based recon and jamming platforms) they can fire close if not at nominal range and give you a nasty surprise if you do not expect it.

Ancalagon




Gunner98 -> RE: Russian Civil War - Phase 1, 2004 (7/21/2019 3:32:15 PM)

Another note Mike.

I believe the Reds have 'Single Unit Airfields' so they are essentially impervious to your attacks. I suspect the designer wanted you to focus on A2A and SEAD vise OCA (Offensive Counter Air).

B




MikeJ19 -> RE: Russian Civil War - Phase 1, 2004 (7/21/2019 5:12:19 PM)

Anacalagon and Bart,

Thanks for the tips and info. You guys are great.

I ran into some problems with my mission planning...

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Ancalagon451 -> RE: Russian Civil War - Phase 1, 2004 (7/21/2019 8:53:26 PM)

For a first marshall and then strike action, you must prepare the strike mission without assigning the strikers to it. After that, prepare a support mission in the marshalling zone, uncheck the 1/3 rule box and assing all the strikers to the support mission. Once the planes are in the marshall zone unassign them and inmediately reassign them to the strike mission.

Be careful with the fuel management if you want to operate close to max strike range, a support mission calculates the remaining fuel until bingo under the assumption that the plane is going to retain it's loadout onboard in the return trip. The strike range on the other hand it's calculated assuming that the plane it's gonna be unloaded in the return leg, so you can find you planes returning to base due to bingo when marshalling at a distance nominally within strike range.

In those cases you can simply give them tanker support if available, or change the support mission settings so the planes do not RTB when they hit bingo state. The later it's risky for obvious reasons, a too prolonged marshalling operation could cause your planes to become short of fuel even after having fired their heavy ordnance with catastrophical consecuences.

Ancalagon




Zanthra -> RE: Russian Civil War - Phase 1, 2004 (7/22/2019 12:22:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MikeJ19

A look at timing

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Those two legs are 350nm, or 42 minutes. It may make a difference if your timing is tight.

You may also want to look at your Weapons Release Authorization for the HARM missiles, as you can change the number of weapons they will launch against each target type. By default I believe it uses the "Missile Defense Value" of the target. It can be configured separately for different missions. If there are AD targets you feel are critical to take down, you could increase the number of weapons per target (either something like 2x missile defense value, or a fixed number of missiles) and reduce the number of targets and still use all the missiles as they get into range.




MikeJ19 -> RE: Russian Civil War - Phase 1, 2004 (7/24/2019 11:44:10 PM)

Ancalagon,

Thanks for the tips. I will give this a shot.

Zanthra,

Good catch! My math skills are better really.

I will also take a look at the WRA - thanks for the suggestion.

Have a good day,




MikeJ19 -> RE: Russian Civil War - Phase 1, 2004 (7/26/2019 10:06:20 AM)

With some good input and help from this forum, I have made some changes to my missions. Hopefully, things workout this time.

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MikeJ19 -> RE: Russian Civil War - Phase 1, 2004 (7/29/2019 1:26:30 AM)

found some time at the cottage to play

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MikeJ19 -> RE: Russian Civil War - Phase 1, 2004 (7/29/2019 1:27:07 AM)

Time to prep for the next wave

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MikeJ19 -> RE: Russian Civil War - Phase 1, 2004 (7/29/2019 1:28:49 AM)

Still have not found the container ship and it is now noon! Hopefully, I will find it soon.

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MikeJ19 -> RE: Russian Civil War - Phase 1, 2004 (7/31/2019 10:06:05 AM)

Making some changes to my missions

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MikeJ19 -> RE: Russian Civil War - Phase 1, 2004 (7/31/2019 10:20:42 AM)

Foxhounds. Are they hostile? I hope not.

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MikeJ19 -> RE: Russian Civil War - Phase 1, 2004 (8/1/2019 10:07:14 AM)

I love the injects, it makes the battle so much more realistic and interesting.

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Gunner98 -> RE: Russian Civil War - Phase 1, 2004 (8/1/2019 10:43:38 AM)

Mike,

Good job on the MiG-31s. The AA-9 like the AiM-54 Phoenix on F-14s is a long range freight train of a missile. If you're not prepared it will hurt - a lot - but fighters, especially those with AMRAAMs can get the drop on them if you have jammer and AWACS support.

He may have intercept missions set up as well as CAPs - watch for fighters taking off in response to your actions, try and get the trigger range and use it to your advantage. You may call that a gamey tactic but it's probably not to far from reality that highly controlled GCI units will just keep on doing what they're told.

B




MikeJ19 -> RE: Russian Civil War - Phase 1, 2004 (8/1/2019 9:09:29 PM)

Bart,

Thanks, I think I was very lucky.

As for the intercept missions, so far I have managed to avoid them. In the latest attack, I did not notice more Rebel planes in the air. I also was able to turn the planes around to avoid getting too close. At some point, I will have to engage the Rebel fighters.

Here is the update after the second SEAD strike

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c3k -> RE: Russian Civil War - Phase 1, 2004 (8/1/2019 10:48:19 PM)

MikeJ19,

THANKS! I learn a LOT from these types of write-ups. Not just from you, but from the very experienced players who give advice. As a newb, I know what I =want= to do, but the complexity of the game, combined with the intricacies/quirks of the UI, make it hard to execute.

Keep 'em coming! I really like the format you're using.

Ken




MikeJ19 -> RE: Russian Civil War - Phase 1, 2004 (8/1/2019 11:11:39 PM)

c3k,

Thanks for the support. I really enjoy working through the issues and as a new player the advice I get is wonderful. I agree, I often know what I want to achieve, but not sure how to do it.

I will keep at it, however, I will be away from the internet for over a week starting tomorrow, so no updates for a bit!

Have a great day and keep playing!




MikeJ19 -> RE: Russian Civil War - Phase 1, 2004 (8/2/2019 9:56:06 AM)

Working through how to respond to the Flogger threat...

This is likely my last post until after my vacation.

Have fun and keeping gaming!

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Galahad78 -> RE: Russian Civil War - Phase 1, 2004 (8/2/2019 12:37:57 PM)

Hey MikeJ19, very nice AAR! Good job with strike coordination, it is IMHO one of the trickiest parts of warfare.




Ancalagon451 -> RE: Russian Civil War - Phase 1, 2004 (8/2/2019 1:22:10 PM)

Careful with that Flak range, the stated range is for land/surface contacts only.

If you look at the shell spreadsheet, the anti-air range is significantly shorter.

Ancalagon

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c3k -> RE: Russian Civil War - Phase 1, 2004 (8/3/2019 11:58:23 AM)

I'm curious about the large number of SA-7 "Losses".

Are they expenditures? If so, that's a LOT of Manpad launches; how close are your strike platforms getting?

If they weren't launched, but were actually lost due to combat damage, that's a lot of good bombing/strafing, and some unlucky SA-7 teams.

Like I said, the numbers make me curious about how them. (Were they cued by radar? We're all well aware of the IR seeker cool-down limits, battery life, etc. The SA-7 is not something kept "hot and ready".)




Gunner98 -> RE: Russian Civil War - Phase 1, 2004 (8/3/2019 1:33:37 PM)

The MANPADs are probably the ones that are component parts to the lager SAM units. Many Soviet SAM units have integral SA-7 as close in defence. They would get killed when that larger units get slammed.



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MikeJ19 -> RE: Russian Civil War - Phase 1, 2004 (8/13/2019 9:44:14 AM)

Found a bit of time to play while on holidays.

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MikeJ19 -> RE: Russian Civil War - Phase 1, 2004 (8/13/2019 9:46:03 AM)

Are they trying to force my hand?

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MikeJ19 -> RE: Russian Civil War - Phase 1, 2004 (8/13/2019 9:47:08 AM)

By 2300 local, no Flogger attack has happened. Here is an earlier screen shot.

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MikeJ19 -> RE: Russian Civil War - Phase 1, 2004 (8/13/2019 10:01:27 AM)

Thinking through my next strike.

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MikeJ19 -> RE: Russian Civil War - Phase 1, 2004 (8/14/2019 10:06:29 AM)

I have done some more detailed planning for the next strike.

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