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warspite1 -> RE: D-day (day) trip (5/8/2019 6:25:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Anachro

Wow, you sound like a Redsox fan prior to 2004, always expecting the worst outcome. It's only a 1-0 difference, mate, and you're away now!
warspite1

No, just a Spurs fan of almost 50 years.... Disappointment is such a regular occurrence its something one learns to live with - but the pain of failure after failure doesn't get any less. I hate football and I am going to hate tonight - I'm wound up like a drum in anticipation of the embarrassing debacle to come - we will either stink the place out or will lose to an own goal in the 96th minute....[:@]




warspite1 -> RE: D-day (day) trip (5/8/2019 6:27:09 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Zorch


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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

Gentlemen, we seem to have run this thread firmly off the rails of the OP's subject. I refer, of course, to the cross-thread obtuse references to...soccer...

Please observe the General Discussion thread on this topic for future discussions. [:'(]

What's the penalty for taking a thread off-topic? Is it the same as for not taking a thread off-topic?
warspite1

For ******* sake Zorch, what are you ******** on about? Why do you have to go and take this thread off topic like that? For ****** sake ya *******




Zorch -> RE: D-day (day) trip (5/8/2019 6:38:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: warspite1


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ORIGINAL: Zorch


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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

Gentlemen, we seem to have run this thread firmly off the rails of the OP's subject. I refer, of course, to the cross-thread obtuse references to...soccer...

Please observe the General Discussion thread on this topic for future discussions. [:'(]

What's the penalty for taking a thread off-topic? Is it the same as for not taking a thread off-topic?
warspite1

For ******* sake Zorch, what are you ******** on about? Why do you have to go and take this thread off topic like that? For ****** sake ya *******


My dear Warspite, you may not be aware of it, but there is a dire shortage of asterisks in some less privileged parts of the globe. We who have so much should spare a thought before we so wastefully exhaust the world's last reserves. Future generations may regret out prodigious use of extraneous punctuation.




warspite1 -> RE: D-day (day) trip (5/8/2019 6:40:22 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Zorch


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ORIGINAL: warspite1


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ORIGINAL: Zorch


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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

Gentlemen, we seem to have run this thread firmly off the rails of the OP's subject. I refer, of course, to the cross-thread obtuse references to...soccer...

Please observe the General Discussion thread on this topic for future discussions. [:'(]

What's the penalty for taking a thread off-topic? Is it the same as for not taking a thread off-topic?
warspite1

For ******* sake Zorch, what are you ******** on about? Why do you have to go and take this thread off topic like that? For ****** sake ya *******


My dear Warspite, you may not be aware of it, but there is a dire shortage of asterisks in some less privileged parts of the globe. We who have so much should spare a thought before we so wastefully exhaust the world's last reserves. Future generations may regret out prodigious use of extraneous punctuation.
warspite1

Really? ******* me, I had no ********** idea that was the case. Soz.




Orm -> RE: D-day (day) trip (5/8/2019 6:49:10 PM)

Nothing to do with the D-day. And to far away to combine with D-day excursions. Still a great place to visit. Although beware that the number of tourists can be very high.

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Anachro -> RE: D-day (day) trip (5/8/2019 6:50:34 PM)

I've been there. Fun place! Mt St Michel for those who don't know.




Anachro -> RE: D-day (day) trip (5/8/2019 9:01:10 PM)

Hey, hey Warspite. Just believe buddy! [:D]




ian77 -> RE: D-day (day) trip (5/8/2019 9:59:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: warspite1




No, just a Spurs fan of almost 50 years.... Disappointment is such a regular occurrence its something one learns to live with - but the pain of failure after failure doesn't get any less. I hate football and I am going to hate tonight - I'm wound up like a drum in anticipation of the embarrassing debacle to come - we will either stink the place out or will lose to an own goal in the 96th minute....[:@]





So you starting to feel happier now... injury time winner ... [;)]




warspite1 -> RE: D-day (day) trip (5/8/2019 10:44:57 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ian77

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ORIGINAL: warspite1




No, just a Spurs fan of almost 50 years.... Disappointment is such a regular occurrence its something one learns to live with - but the pain of failure after failure doesn't get any less. I hate football and I am going to hate tonight - I'm wound up like a drum in anticipation of the embarrassing debacle to come - we will either stink the place out or will lose to an own goal in the 96th minute....[:@]





So you starting to feel happier now... injury time winner ... [;)]
warspite1

Happy? I'm piggin' ecstatic!!!! [:)]




obvert -> RE: D-day (day) trip (5/9/2019 8:15:54 AM)


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ORIGINAL: warspite1


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ORIGINAL: ian77

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ORIGINAL: warspite1




No, just a Spurs fan of almost 50 years.... Disappointment is such a regular occurrence its something one learns to live with - but the pain of failure after failure doesn't get any less. I hate football and I am going to hate tonight - I'm wound up like a drum in anticipation of the embarrassing debacle to come - we will either stink the place out or will lose to an own goal in the 96th minute....[:@]





So you starting to feel happier now... injury time winner ... [;)]
warspite1

Happy? I'm piggin' ecstatic!!!! [:)]



What an unbelievable two games in the Champion's League this week. Last night was absolutely amazing.

Being an American Brit I can root for all teams (nearly) equally, so this was a fun one to watch. (I exclude Chelsea from that statement though. I will never pull for Chelsea).

Will Kane be back? Will Moura be on the bench if he is back for the final? Don't you have to start him now?




Anachro -> RE: D-day (day) trip (5/9/2019 1:25:24 PM)

As of events yesterday, I'd like to charge Liverpudlians and London Coys with war crimes and atrocities committed on the peoples of Barcelona and Amsterdam. I will not stand for it!

@Warspite I'm not sure if you are aware of Redsox history and my 2004 Redsox allusion, but for 86 years the Boston Redsox suffered under the Curse of the Bambino where they failed to win the championship (and what is more galling is that in the early 1900's they were the juggernaut with 5 championships). They'd make many runs, get close, but somehow, someway, they'd squander their chances in the end and fail to win. The most striking example would be Bill Buckner's error on a very simple, routine play to end the game that would have won them the championship in 1986.

Then in 2004, they conducted one of the greatest comebacks in American sports, coming back from being down 3-0 in a seven game series to win 4-3 against their arch-rivals, the New York Yankees...and then they went on the break the curse and win the championship after quite easily. They've won three additional championships since.

Interesting to note, both Liverpool and Redsox are own by FSG.




warspite1 -> RE: D-day (day) trip (5/9/2019 4:30:09 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Anachro

@Warspite I'm not sure if you are aware of Redsox history and my 2004 Redsox allusion, but for 86 years the Boston Redsox suffered under the Curse of the Bambino where they failed to win the championship (and what is more galling is that in the early 1900's they were the juggernaut with 5 championships). They'd make many runs, get close, but somehow, someway, they'd squander their chances in the end and fail to win. The most striking example would be Bill Buckner's error on a very simple, routine play to end the game that would have won them the championship in 1986.

Then in 2004, they conducted one of the greatest comebacks in American sports, coming back from being down 3-0 in a seven game series to win 4-3 against their arch-rivals, the New York Yankees...and then they went on the break the curse and win the championship after quite easily. They've won three additional championships since.
warspite1

Pure. Frontier. Gibberish.



No I didn't know, thanks for the info and the video - poor guy [:(]





Zorch -> RE: D-day (day) trip (5/9/2019 6:56:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: warspite1


quote:

ORIGINAL: Anachro

@Warspite I'm not sure if you are aware of Redsox history and my 2004 Redsox allusion, but for 86 years the Boston Redsox suffered under the Curse of the Bambino where they failed to win the championship (and what is more galling is that in the early 1900's they were the juggernaut with 5 championships). They'd make many runs, get close, but somehow, someway, they'd squander their chances in the end and fail to win. The most striking example would be Bill Buckner's error on a very simple, routine play to end the game that would have won them the championship in 1986.

Then in 2004, they conducted one of the greatest comebacks in American sports, coming back from being down 3-0 in a seven game series to win 4-3 against their arch-rivals, the New York Yankees...and then they went on the break the curse and win the championship after quite easily. They've won three additional championships since.
warspite1

Pure. Frontier. Gibberish.

No I didn't know, thanks for the info and the video - poor guy [:(]


There may be hope for you yet, Warspite. Now we're going to learn about the Chicago Cubs and the Curse of the Billy Goat.




Orm -> RE: D-day (day) trip (5/9/2019 7:17:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: warspite1

No I didn't know, thanks for the info and the video - poor guy [:(]


How could you not know? [sm=crazy.gif] [&:]

I thought you were allknowing.

Anyway. Now you know it all. [:)]




ian77 -> RE: D-day (day) trip (5/9/2019 7:47:28 PM)

You just cant argue with authentic frontier gibberish [&o]




warspite1 -> RE: D-day (day) trip (5/11/2019 6:18:27 AM)


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ORIGINAL: warspite1

The land campaign in Italy is not something I know that much about but this maybe a good starting point. Monte Cassino and the Poles has been mentioned as an example of the British being happy for non-British troops under its command to take heavy losses. There were iirc 4 attempts to take Cassino and, ultimately it was the Poles that succeeded. Because there were four attempts it might be useful to look at how events unfolded, which troops were used, what the casualty rates were, why were the Poles used in the fourth attempt? were they used earlier? etc. etc.

Any Italian Campaign experts here? I assume mind_messing you know something of this as I believe it was you that used Monte Cassino as an example of British profligacy with non-British troops under it's command?

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I had family that fought at Cassino - he was quite firm in his opinion that the Poles were sent in as it was regarded as a suicide mission, and that the Polish troops were given the job to avoid the fallout that heavy losses to the other units of the 8th Army would have. The Poles were in no position to refuse to argue.


Again, this is the best you can come up with? So letís get this right (and as said I am no expert on the Italian Campaign). There were 4 attempts to take the objective. But what? Only the fourth attempt was a suicide mission?? The first three were just a laugh and the US, French, British, Canadian and Indian forces were on a jolly? Why was the 4th attempt harder than the first three? and were only Poles committed to the 4th attempt or did others - such as the British for example - take part?

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The Poles were in no position to argue?
So, for example, when the British X Corps made the first assault they were consulted as to whether they fancied it or not??

And how did Ė what apparently was widely regarded as a suicide mission - turn out then?

warspite1

Well the discussion has whet my appetite for learning a bit more about the non-naval Italian Campaign. So where better to start than Monte Cassino. This book appears to have good reviews so let's see what Parker has to say about the four attempts at taking this famous objective.


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