RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and Mayhemizer) (Full Version)

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Orm -> RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and Mayhemizer) (10/2/2021 7:48:07 PM)

Nov/Dec '42
End of Turn

I post the losses for the turn before I retire.

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Orm -> RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and Mayhemizer) (10/5/2021 2:23:43 PM)

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Orm -> RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and Mayhemizer) (10/5/2021 2:24:27 PM)

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Orm -> RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and Mayhemizer) (10/5/2021 2:25:56 PM)

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Orm -> RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and Mayhemizer) (10/5/2021 2:26:27 PM)

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Orm -> RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and Mayhemizer) (10/5/2021 2:30:53 PM)

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Orm -> RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and Mayhemizer) (10/5/2021 2:31:26 PM)

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Orm -> RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and Mayhemizer) (10/5/2021 2:34:00 PM)

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Orm -> RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and Mayhemizer) (10/5/2021 2:34:33 PM)

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Orm -> RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and Mayhemizer) (10/5/2021 2:39:25 PM)

Axis end of turn:

Preliminary planning:
Germany - 26 production points - 31 BPs. Save 4 oil.
Italy - 11 production points - 20 BPs. Save 3 oil. 1 in Rome, 1 in Milan, and 1 in Turin (Changing 1 saved oil from Turin to Milan should clear the idle saved oil).
Japan - 19 production points - 24 BPs. Save 4 oil. Save Burma oil in Shanghai. Save Balikpapan oil in Canton. 1 in Batavia, and 1 in Telok Betong.

Stay at sea:
The following units stay at sea.

Germany:
Baltic Sea: CP
Eastern Mediterranean: CP

Italy:
Italian Coast: CP + 2 CA

Japan:
China Sea: 11 CP + 2 CA
South China Sea: 5 CP + 2 CA (Kago + Haguro)
The Marianas: CA
The Solomons: 2 BB
Timor Sea: CA
Bismarck Sea: CP + BB + CA

Return to Base:

Germany:
Italian Coast: NAV3 -> 73,37 (Sicily)

Italy:
All SUBs -> Brest
BoB: NAV3 -> Brest
Eastern Mediterranean: 2 CA -> La Spezia

Japan:
China Sea: BB + CA -> Tokyo
Red Sea: SUB -> Batavia
Arabian Sea: SUB -> Batavia
Azanian Sea: 2 CA -> Batavia
Mozambique Channel: 2 CA -> Batavia
Coral Sea: FTR2 -> Rabaul
South Pacific: SUB -> Rabaul
New Zealand Coast: SUB -> Rabaul
South China Sea: FTR2 -> Kuala Lumpur, TRS + 2 CA -> Batavia, AMPH + TRS + 3 BB -> Canton

Use Oil:

Germany:
All units, except 3 Finnish Fokker (1 FTR2 + 2 LND2) + FTR3 in hex 21,53 (Ju 88C) + LND3 in hex 22,53 (Do 17Z), are reorganized for 6 oil (6.4). Two oil should now be saved. 1 in Budapest, and 1 in Bratislava.

Italy:
All units, except CA Trento + LND3 in hex 27,49 (in Finland), are reorganized for 2 oil (2.4). Use 1 saved oil in Milan, and 1 in Turin.

Japan:
All units are reorganized are reorganized for 3 oil (2.9). Use 1 saved oil in Telok Betong, the 2 NEI oil that are being saved in the NEI.

Breakdown:
Germany:
MTN in hex 21,55 -> MTN + MOT Div

Scrap: -

Production:
Germany (31):
3 INF
MECH
AT
2 FTR2
LND3
3 Pilot
Repair SUB 4832

Italy (20):
MTN
ART
FTR2
LND3
2 Pilot
BB (2nd)

Japan (24):
CAV Div
MOT
MECH
AT
2 CVP1
2 Pilot
CV (2nd)
Repair CVL
Repair CA

Factory destruction:
Germany destroy blue factory in Lyons




Orm -> RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and Mayhemizer) (10/5/2021 2:39:47 PM)

Reinforcements:

Germany:
FTR2 (Rom) -> Bucharest
FTR3 (Bf 110G) -> Aachen
FTR3 (Me 210) -> Kiel
LND3 (He 111H-4) -> Aachen
LND2 (Hs 123) -> Cologne
MECH (Rom) -> Chisinau
HQA + MOT + MOT Div -> Breslau
ARM -> Saarbrucken
AA -> Königsberg
CA -> Kiel

Italy:
FTR2 (Macchi C.202) -> Turin
LND4 -> Trieste
MIL -> Milan
MOT -> Palermo
INF -> Turin
HQI + INF Div -> Genoa
BB + CA -> La Spezia

Japan:
Upgrade BB Karyu twice (to 6 size CV)
FTR2 (A6M3) -> Sasebo
CVP2 (B6N2) -> CV Shinano (reinforcement in Tokyo)
CVP1 (B5N2 - size 2 with 3 in air to air and 4 in naval air) -> CV Shinano (reinforcement in Tokyo)
CV -> Tokyo
INF -> Div -> Tokyo
CP -> Hanoi

Voluntary Resource Lending:
Modified; Germany -> Italy: 9 resources, (2 oil, minimum) + 4 BPs

Allies goes first if we win the initiative. No re-roll.




Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and Mayhemizer) (10/6/2021 6:37:07 PM)

SO Recourse lending for Allies was
CW to USSR 1 BP no resources
FF to CW 2 res no oil
US to CW and FF 2 BPs

Can someone please confirm if this is correct and/or possible?

CW production
(CW BP from India to USSR)
(2 convoys are used USEC-North Atlantic-Faeroes Gap to ship US BPs)
-> max 13 resources can be shipped to UK

22 total factories
routes for resources to factories

17 factories in UK
2 res from UK
1 res from Portugal (via BoB)
3 res from Africa (via CSV and North Atlantic)
1 FF res from Africa (via Central and North Atlantic)
5 res from Canada (via East Coast and North Atlantic)
2 res from South America (via Central and North Atlantic)
1 oil res from Trinidad (via Central and North Atlantic)
2 oils are burned in UK for production

2 factories in Canada
1 res from Australia
1 res from Canada

2 factories in India
2x res from India

1 factory in Australia
1 res from Australia

all 22 factories are used = 28 BPS
1 sent
2 received
= 29 BPs for CW


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Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and Mayhemizer) (10/11/2021 9:22:24 AM)

Allied 42 ND EOT:
US 50 BPs (Must save one BP as there is only one CP convoy line from France)
SU 37 BPs (1 from last turn CW trade that went bad and was not saved correctly)
FF 2 BPs
CW 29 BPs


RTB/SAS:

Europe
Seas are mostly empty, CPs stay and some ships too to prevent enemy sail free (1-2 CAs in North Sea, BoB, West Med, FG and CSV) and FTR2 in West Med.
RTB for TRS/AMPH and major fleets to mention:

Allies return to Northern France 2-hex bridgehead CW FTR2 and US TRS loaded with INF

CW
Scapa Flow: The Queens, CA and 3x BB
Oran: 2x CV, BB and TRS
Suez: TRS, AMPH and 2x BB
South Africa: TRS with TERR from CVB


US
Gibraltar: US West Med fleet
Glasgow: AMPH from USEC with MIL
Brazil: TRS
Baltimore: TRS
Marseilles: TRS with MIL
Bone, Algeria: TRS with HQ-I


FF
Modador: TRS


Pacific SAS:
Tasman Sea: BB 1 box
NZC: Indianapolis CA 4 box
Southwest Pacific: RTB the US cp, leave CW. US CP to Christchurch
Polynesia: CA 4 box
East Pacifc: 1 CP stay
Christmas Island: CA 4 box

Pacific RTB:
Austral TRS to San Diego
South Pacific NAV2 to Palmerston
Tasman Sea BB to Brisbane
East Pacific 1CP stay. 1 CP to Hiva Oa, 1 CP to Maria in South Pacific
NZC:
CA 4 box to Christchurch
Aus FTR2 to Port Vila
NAV2 to Niue
BB Mississippi to Port Vila
CA 2 box to Suva
2xCV to Brisbane


Oil use
USSR reorg all (2,8 oil)
CW reorg all (5,3 oil)
FF reorg all (1,0 oil)
US reorg all (3,15 oil)


Break down:
CW breaks down INF in Denmark into INF div and MOT div


Scrap:
US CA
CAN GAR

Prod:
USSR (37)
O-chit (15)
4xPIL (8)
3xFTR2 (6)
1xLND2 (2)
3xGAR (6)


US (50)
MAR-ENG-DIV (3)
MIL (2)
MTN (4)
HQA (8)
ARM (6)
5xPIL (10)
FTR2 (2)
AMPH fu (4)
CP (1)
1xCV fu (3)
2xcvp1 (1)
LND4 (4)
Save 1 BP

CW (29)
4x Pilot (8)
5x CVP1 (5)
ARM (6)
GAR (2)
INF (3)
TRS 2nd (3)
CV Implacable 2nd (2)

FF (2)
Save 2 BPs


Italy conquered Uganda from CW.


Reinforcements

CW
CVP to Glasgow (on land)
LND3 to London
GAR to London
AT gun to Southampton
NAV 3 to Brisbane

FF
FTR2 to French Guyana

US
FTR2 Wildcat to San Diego
NAV3 PBM-1 to San Diego
LND4 to Boston)
FTR2 Mustang to Norfolk)
blue SBD-5 CVP to San Diego on Yorktown
AMPH to Norfolk
5 speed TRS to San Diego
4 speed TRS to Norfolk
CV Lexington II to San Diego
INF to Norfolk
MIL to Chicago


SU
Yak-7DI (Vlad)
Yak-9M (d-town)
Yak-7B (Smolensk)
Su-2 (Vlad)
ARM (d-town)
AA (d-town)
DIV (Gomel)
6-5 MOT (Gomel)
7-5 MOT (Kharkov)


Trade
US stops sending BPs to CW

CW to USSR 1 BP no resources
FF to CW 2 res no oil
US to FF 2 BPs

Allied win initiative and go first. Weather is not what I expected.

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Courtenay -> RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and Mayhemizer) (10/11/2021 6:46:00 PM)

quote:

Allied 42 ND EOT:
US 50 BPs (Must save one BP as there is only one CP convoy line from France)

If the US said that it was shipping two BPs to France and could only ship one, the second BP is lost, not saved.




Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and Mayhemizer) (10/12/2021 7:17:32 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Courtenay

quote:

Allied 42 ND EOT:
US 50 BPs (Must save one BP as there is only one CP convoy line from France)

If the US said that it was shipping two BPs to France and could only ship one, the second BP is lost, not saved.


In that case US must compensate next turn by discarding 2 BPs. First turn after invasion we had no CP in West Med at all.

I mean first impulse we were not shipping anything. Did we have to pick them up automatically or keep in Marseilles?




Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and Mayhemizer) (10/12/2021 7:37:12 AM)

Jan/Feb 1943 Allied impulse 1 - start of the impulse.


SITUATION REPORT TO ALLIED HQ


LAST TURN
Last turn Allied managed to get another small bridgehead to France, this time in Northern France. Allies also have little larger, but under immediate danger, bridgehead in Southern France. For a year or two Allies have been holding 3 hexes in Denmark.

Germany captured Murmansk causing massive losses to USSR, mostly in planes and pilots. Strong Axis air forces can be diverted to other fronts.


SITUATION IN EACH BRIDGEHEAD
Weather is fine everywhere in Western Europe during the first impulse.

Southern bridgehead must be covered, if being cut out of supply it will be destroyed very soon. Attacking is not possible.

Northern bridgehead is strong compared to surrounding forces, but attacking is very risky.

Denmark bridgehead is safe, but cannot attack.

Allied need more units to North Africa before they can attack without big risk.


ENEMY SITUATION IN WESTERN EUROPE
Germany deployed almost all their fresh troops to Eastern Front. Most likely due to USSR constant attacks and losses caused to Germany. USSR is also building offensive chits, next summer they will have 3 of them. Germany is probably preparing for USSR summer offensive.

Axis are capable to challenge Allied forces in West Med and try to cut supply from southern bridgehead. Axis forces are strong around southern bridgehead.

Axis cannot perform attacks to other bridgeheads, just prevent Allied from advancing.

Axis have large number of all kind planes in Western Europe.


ALLIED PLANS
- TOP SECRET -

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Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and Mayhemizer) (10/12/2021 7:37:53 AM)

Eastern front north

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Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and Mayhemizer) (10/12/2021 7:38:18 AM)

Eastern front south

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Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and Mayhemizer) (10/14/2021 6:04:02 PM)

USSR and Japan are in peace (we used house rule, in game they are in war). Can USSR declare war now?

I counted garrison (please some else count too)
Japan 22,5
USSR 29




Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and Mayhemizer) (10/15/2021 7:23:20 AM)

J/F 43 Allied 1

USSR DoW on Japan (if this is not possible, USSR moves will be redone. Others do these moves anyway.)

FF naval, others combined


Naval air

CW
FTR2 from Algeria and FTR2 (6 factor) from Marseilles to WM box 2
FTR3 from Algeria to WM box 3
FTR3 Beaufighter to North Sea box 3

US
FTR2 from Algeria and FTR2 and NAV2 from Gibraltar to WM box 3
FTR from Port Vila to 3 box Coral Sea.

USSR
FTR2 to Arctic Ocean box 2


Naval move

CW
From Egypt 2x BB, TRS and AMPH loaded with INF and ARM HQ to WM box 2
From Scapa Flow 4x BB and The Queens to North Sea box 3, loading MAR from France and INF div from Denmark.

US
5x BB and CA from Gibraltar to WM box 3
TRS from Algeria to Central Atlantic box 1
TRS+MIL from Baltimore to CSV box 0

FF
From UK BB to FG box 3 and 2x BB to BoB box 3
From Morocco CA to CSV box 4 and 2x CA to North Atlantic box 4
From Algeria sub to Italian Coast box 1

USSR
2 submarisen to China Sea boxes 1 and 3


Assuming USSR can declare war I continue.


Naval combat

FF submarine attacks convoys on Italian Coast.

Axis can send German or Italian planes if they want to.

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Orm -> RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and Mayhemizer) (10/15/2021 9:35:19 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Mayhemizer_slith

USSR and Japan are in peace (we used house rule, in game they are in war). Can USSR declare war now?

I counted garrison (please some else count too)
Japan 22,5
USSR 29

Yes, USSR can DOW according to my count. Although it is close, so I think you should do a recount.

I got the figures to this:
Japan: 22
USSR: 23

Our USSR figures might be different because we might be interpreting the common border differently? So I cut it out for reference.

- Your common border with another major power consists of every hex you (or your aligned minor countries)
control within 3 hexes and/or hexdots of a hex controlled by the other major power (or its aligned minor countries).[/I]




peskpesk -> RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and Mayhemizer) (10/15/2021 9:39:43 AM)

Send GE Nav3 from Sicily to 0-box, plz




Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and Mayhemizer) (10/15/2021 9:56:34 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Orm


quote:

ORIGINAL: Mayhemizer_slith

USSR and Japan are in peace (we used house rule, in game they are in war). Can USSR declare war now?

I counted garrison (please some else count too)
Japan 22,5
USSR 29

Yes, USSR can DOW according to my count. Although it is close, so I think you should do a recount.

I got the figures to this:
Japan: 22
USSR: 23

Our USSR figures might be different because we might be interpreting the common border differently? So I cut it out for reference.

- Your common border with another major power consists of every hex you (or your aligned minor countries)
control within 3 hexes and/or hexdots of a hex controlled by the other major power (or its aligned minor countries).[/I]


Now I noticed I counted some units 4 hexes away.




Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and Mayhemizer) (10/15/2021 9:57:16 AM)

No combat in Italian Coast.

USSR initiates in China Sea. Japan can't fly planes as they are surprised.




Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and Mayhemizer) (10/15/2021 9:58:27 AM)

No combat in China Sea




Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and Mayhemizer) (10/15/2021 10:06:33 AM)

Ground strike

CW
Artillery in Southern France hit 62,32

USSR
4-2 ART hit Kiev
5-2 ART hit front GE stack with MIL, GAR and AA near d-town
IL-2M3 hit hex 3 W of Smolensk, Yak-7B escort

Will Germany or Italy (one fighter shown in picture) intercept?

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peskpesk -> RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and Mayhemizer) (10/15/2021 11:01:29 AM)

GE sends 6-str FTR2, thx




Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and Mayhemizer) (10/17/2021 6:26:52 PM)

Final result.

Fighter returns to same hex it started or some other hex?

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peskpesk -> RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and Mayhemizer) (10/17/2021 6:34:32 PM)

Yes, plz




Mayhemizer_slith -> RE: Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and Mayhemizer) (10/17/2021 6:34:57 PM)

Sturmovik resulted hit to secondary target.

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