RE: The Rematch. GW AAR #2. Ronnie vs Pat. (Full Version)

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rkr1958 -> RE: The Rematch. GW AAR #2. Ronnie vs Pat. (12/19/2017 10:31:37 PM)

Turn 1. Sep/Oct 1939. Allied #2. ChiCom. Post Move.

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rkr1958 -> RE: The Rematch. GW AAR #2. Ronnie vs Pat. (12/19/2017 10:32:02 PM)

Turn 1. Sep/Oct 1939. Allied #2. ChiNat. Post Move.

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rkr1958 -> RE: The Rematch. GW AAR #2. Ronnie vs Pat. (12/19/2017 10:32:39 PM)

Turn 1. Sep/Oct 1939. Axis #3. Weather.

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rkr1958 -> RE: The Rematch. GW AAR #2. Ronnie vs Pat. (12/19/2017 11:37:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Centuur


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ORIGINAL: ashkpa

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Do you wish to use AA against ground strike 1, 2 or both? I'm not sure the effects of surprise on AA fire ...

Ground strikes 1-3 are surprise (i.e., double rolls). The RAF Hampden (GSTK #2) is flying extend range so it's tactical factors are halved from 3 to 2 (rounded up).

The Polish ground strike (#4) is not a surprise (I believe) but MWiF will still roll double. Assuming this is a bug ... I will reorganize (by editing) any units disorganized on the second roll of this ground strike.

The 88 AA gun will fire against the Hampden. I believe the AA factors should be halved, making the roll -1/6.

I am not sure about the polish ground strike. It seems odd that it would get the benefit of surprise, but it may be the way the rule is written. Other expert will know better than I.


RAW:

15. Surprise
Major powers and minor countries are surprised when a major power
declares war on them, even if they are already at war with someone
else. However, they are not surprised by a major power or minor
country they are currently at war with. Furthermore, they are not
surprised by land or aircraft units attacking from, or flying over, hexes
controlled by a major power or minor country at war with them last
impulse.


So: it's a bug.

I did post on this about a month ago in the Tech section. http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4382039




brian brian -> RE: The Rematch. GW AAR #2. Ronnie vs Pat. (12/20/2017 1:23:32 AM)

The only die rolls more important to the eventual results of the first turn are the weather rolls. More specifically, the Ground Strike rolls on the best German HQ on the Western Front. When von Bock and Rundstedt are both in the west, even more so.

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ORIGINAL: rkr1958

Turn 1. Sep/Oct 1939. Allied #2. Allied (French) Ground Strike #2.

I'm not even sure the French LeO 451 bomber crews even dropped their bombs.

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ashkpa -> RE: The Rematch. GW AAR #2. Ronnie vs Pat. (12/20/2017 11:57:21 PM)

SO39 i3
Axis Actions: Germany land, Japan and Italy combines

Italy brings the INF corp for E. Africa home.
Japanese move Yamato and a Corp to Canton. The Marine Corps, a ENG div, BB and CV's move to the 3-box of the Sea of Japan.

Image is of ground strikes and US entry for entering another Chinese city.

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ashkpa -> RE: The Rematch. GW AAR #2. Ronnie vs Pat. (12/20/2017 11:57:59 PM)

Land Attack on Lodz. Went well.

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ashkpa -> RE: The Rematch. GW AAR #2. Ronnie vs Pat. (12/20/2017 11:58:33 PM)

Reorgs on the Western Front

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rkr1958 -> RE: The Rematch. GW AAR #2. Ronnie vs Pat. (12/22/2017 12:34:33 AM)

Turn 1. Sep/Oct 1939. Allied #5.

USSR makes a claim against Bessarabia.

Does Germany allow the claim?

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rkr1958 -> RE: The Rematch. GW AAR #2. Ronnie vs Pat. (12/22/2017 12:57:39 AM)

Germany allows the claim.

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rkr1958 -> RE: The Rematch. GW AAR #2. Ronnie vs Pat. (12/22/2017 2:22:51 AM)

Turn 1. Sep/Oct 1939. Allied #5. Actions.

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rkr1958 -> RE: The Rematch. GW AAR #2. Ronnie vs Pat. (12/22/2017 2:25:30 AM)

Turn 1. Sep/Oct 1939. Allied #5. USSR, Asia.

Well something's definitely brewing in the Sea of Japan and on the Manchurian/Soviet border.

The Soviets use their one naval move to put a sub out in the 4-box to investigate the large Japanese fleet.

May the bad weather in the north temperate continue, or better yet, worsen.

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rkr1958 -> RE: The Rematch. GW AAR #2. Ronnie vs Pat. (12/22/2017 2:26:08 AM)

Turn 1. Sep/Oct 1939. Allied #5. ChiCom.

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rkr1958 -> RE: The Rematch. GW AAR #2. Ronnie vs Pat. (12/22/2017 2:26:37 AM)

Turn 1. Sep/Oct 1939. Allied #5. ChiNat.

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rkr1958 -> RE: The Rematch. GW AAR #2. Ronnie vs Pat. (12/22/2017 2:27:38 AM)

Turn 1. Sep/Oct 1939. Allied #5. The Western Front.

Something also seems to be brewing with the Germans on the Western Front. Georges is used to reorg three French corps.

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rkr1958 -> RE: The Rematch. GW AAR #2. Ronnie vs Pat. (12/22/2017 2:29:19 AM)

Turn 1. Sep/Oct 1939. Axis #7. Weather.

The bad weather suddenly clears ... it's fine across the map ... great weather for the axis.

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ashkpa -> RE: The Rematch. GW AAR #2. Ronnie vs Pat. (12/22/2017 5:48:08 PM)

SO39 i7. Axis
With the Weather clearing up, the German Western Forces are ordered to March into the Netherlands.
Italy see's the Allied Naval movements and believes them to be real and not the exercises proclaimed. They DOW on France and the CW and occupy key lands in the Mountain passes with France.
I aligned the Netherlands with the CW. Those forces now need to be setup.
Miscellaneous details below.

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rkr1958 -> RE: The Rematch. GW AAR #2. Ronnie vs Pat. (12/22/2017 11:16:16 PM)

Turn 1. Sep/Oct 1939. Axis #7. Dutch Mobilization.

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ashkpa -> RE: The Rematch. GW AAR #2. Ronnie vs Pat. (12/22/2017 11:44:35 PM)

SO39 i7 Axis Actions:

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ashkpa -> RE: The Rematch. GW AAR #2. Ronnie vs Pat. (12/23/2017 12:39:48 AM)

Germans attempt to move 2x CAs through the Baltic. The FR intercept and decimate them.


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ashkpa -> RE: The Rematch. GW AAR #2. Ronnie vs Pat. (12/23/2017 12:41:54 AM)

SO39 i7, Possible Naval Combats.

CSV rolls of 9/2 (axis/allies) results in no combat
BoB rolls of 8/8 results in no combat
Italian Coast rolls of 8/7 result in no combat
The Germans decline to initiate in the North Sea with their lone NAV (forever waiting for the Cruisers that will never arrive).

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ashkpa -> RE: The Rematch. GW AAR #2. Ronnie vs Pat. (12/23/2017 12:55:31 AM)

E. Med rolls of 5/3 result in axis finding with 7 SP for round 1. Results shown below. Allies stay for round 2.

additional info: FR CP aborted to Beirut. CW CA and CP aborted to Suez.

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ashkpa -> RE: The Rematch. GW AAR #2. Ronnie vs Pat. (12/23/2017 1:02:14 AM)

rnd 2 rolls of 4/7 resulted in axis finding with 11 SP.
Missed the damage screens. Italians select CW CP for X destroying two of them. CW CA took the D and aborted (made's it's roll). The allies then abort the zone.

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ashkpa -> RE: The Rematch. GW AAR #2. Ronnie vs Pat. (12/23/2017 1:13:45 AM)

W. Med rolls of 3/7 result in axis finding. They engage the 4-box only with 12 surprise points. Use 4 SP to make it a surface and 8 SP to reduce axis damage to an A.

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ashkpa -> RE: The Rematch. GW AAR #2. Ronnie vs Pat. (12/23/2017 1:59:28 AM)

Results of the W. Med fight shown below. The allies aborted the zone before a round 2.

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ashkpa -> RE: The Rematch. GW AAR #2. Ronnie vs Pat. (12/23/2017 3:15:41 AM)

SO39 i7
Allies did not initiate searches in the North Sea.
Strat Bombing below


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ashkpa -> RE: The Rematch. GW AAR #2. Ronnie vs Pat. (12/23/2017 3:16:34 AM)

Ground Strikes.
The IT and JP need to take lessons from the Germans ASAP.

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ashkpa -> RE: The Rematch. GW AAR #2. Ronnie vs Pat. (12/23/2017 3:17:08 AM)

One attack in the Netherlands.

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ashkpa -> RE: The Rematch. GW AAR #2. Ronnie vs Pat. (12/23/2017 3:17:59 AM)

SO39 Turn did not end on impulse 7.


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rkr1958 -> RE: The Rematch. GW AAR #2. Ronnie vs Pat. (12/24/2017 9:27:56 PM)

Turn 1. Sep/Oct 1939. Allied #8. Actions.

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