SigUp > RE: New retraet rules are no treat (2/29/2016 4:55:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Wuffer @ SigUp Only very few PzIII were commited at Kursk as Mehring said, by the time the design was considered allready as outclassed for a main battle tank. And please include the 'kills' of Ferdinands, Tigers and Panthers, as well as StuG's and StuH's (edit: but you have a point; Kursk was _not_ a tactical soviet victory if one compare the losses..) Army Group Centre tank losses 514 July 1943: 2nd Panzer Division: 14 Panzer IV 4th Panzer Division: 6 Panzer IV 9th Panzer Division: 2 Panzer IV 12th Panzer Division: 1 Panzer IV 18th Panzer Division: 2 Panzer III, 9 Panzer IV 20th Panzer Division: 1 Panzer III, 3 Panzer IV 505th PanzerAbteilung: 4 Tiger 177th StuGAbteilung: 1 StuG 185th StuGAbteilung: 3 StuG 189th StuGAbteilung: 1 StuG 244th StuGAbteilung: 5 StuG 245th StuGAbteilung: 2 StuG 904th StuGAbteilung: 2 StuG 909th StuGAbteilung: 3 StuG 656th PzJägerRegiment: 19 Ferdinand 216th StuPzAbteilung: 10 StuPz Army Group Centre tank losses July 1943 2nd Panzer Division: 13 Panzer III, 29 Panzer IV, 3 BefPz 4th Panzer Division: 3 Panzer III, 15 Panzer IV, 1 BefPz 5th Panzer Division: 11 Panzer III, 43 Panzer IV, 1 BefPz 8th Panzer Division: 14 Panzer III, 24 Panzer IV, 3 BefPz 9th Panzer Division: 7 Panzer III, 18 Panzer IV, 1 BefPz 12th Panzer Division: 13 Panzer IV, 1 BefPz 18th Panzer Division: 14 Panzer III, 12 Panzer IV, 1 BefPz 20th Panzer Division: 3 Panzer III, 20 Panzer IV, 1 BefPz 505th PanzerAbteilung: 5 Tiger 216th StuPzAbteilung: 17 StuPz IV 656th PzJägerRegiment: 39 Ferdinand Army Group South tank losses 517 July 1943 3rd Panzer Division: 6 Panzer III, 3 Panzer IV 11th Panzer Division: 2 Panzer III, 3 Panzer IV Großdeutschland: 3 Panzer III, 16 Panzer IV, 1 StuG Leibstandarte: 1 Panzer III, 9 Panzer IV, 1 Tiger, 1 StuG Das Reich: 1 Panzer III, 6 Panzer IV, 1 Tiger, 1 StuG Totenkopf: 2 Panzer III, 8 Panzer IV, 1 Tiger, 1 StuG 6th Panzer Division: 3 FlammPz, 9 Panzer III, 13 Panzer IV 7th Panzer Division: 8 Panzer III, 2 Panzer IV 19th Panzer Division: 8 Panzer III, 19 Panzer IV 503rd PanzerAbteilung: 3 Tiger 10th PanzerBrigade: 44 Panther 911th StuGAbteilung: 3 StuG 905th StuGAbteilung: 5 StuG 228th StuGAbteilung: 1 StuG 393rd StuGBttr: 5 StuG Total tank and assault gun losses along the entire Eastern Front from 1 July to 31 August 1943 amounted to 1331 units.



