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blh42 -> BPC Vladivostok to be delivered Nov 14 (11/12/2014 5:07:19 PM)

Looks like the Mistral Class BPC Vladivostok will be delivered after all.

http://nomistralsforputin.com/drupal/?q=TrueInvitation

blh




Triode -> RE: BPC Vladivostok to be delivered Nov 14 (11/12/2014 5:43:53 PM)

This is good, if true.
One step closer to cancel project " DDG "Leader" variant 4 " for Russian Navy




Styx3 -> RE: BPC Vladivostok to be delivered Nov 14 (11/12/2014 9:43:45 PM)

triode what will be leader class destroyer armamente and displacement?




Triode -> RE: BPC Vladivostok to be delivered Nov 14 (11/12/2014 11:19:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Styx3

triode what will be leader class destroyer armamente and displacement?


Well, under project "Leader" there is four variant of ship



Variant 1 (aka "Our Berk", aka "Destroer for Ministry of Finance")


7500/9000 tons, ~ 160 m length, CODAG,> 30 knots

Artillery: 1x1x130,

Air Defense : 2xCIWS(Naval Pantsir), 64xRedut cells

Missiles: 32xUKSK cells

2x4 Paket-NK torpedo tubes

hangar for 2 helicopters

Navy dont like this variant for some reasons


Variant 2 (aka "better than Tika",aka "minimum of we can agree")


9500/11500 tons ~ 190 meters in length, CODAG, ~ 30 knots

Artillery: 1x1x130

Air Defense: 4xCIWS(Naval Pantsir), 80xRedut cells

Missiles: 48xUKSK cells

2x4Paket-NK torpedo tubes

hangar for 2 helicopters

this is minimal configuration Russian Navy can agree to choose


Variant 3 (aka "What we want",aka "Worthy successor for 1144")


12500/14700 tons, about 200 meters long, CODAG or nuclear power unit, ~ 30 knots

artillery 2x2x152 or 2x1x130 or 1x1x130

Air Defense: 4xCIWS(Naval Pantsir), 80xRedut cells

Missiles: 64xUKSK cells

2x4 Paket-NK

hangar for 2 helicopters

This is what Russian navy want when talk about "Nuclear DDG"


Variant 4 (aka "successor of 1155")

13000/15200 tons ~ 210 meters in length, CODAG , ~ 30 knots

artillery 1x2x152 or 1x1x130

Air Defense: 4xCIWS(Naval Pantsir),48xRedut cells

Missiles 16xUKSK cells

2x4 Paket-NK

hangar for 5 helicopters

something similar to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirane-class_destroyer but bigger
this ship is forced by former captains of Project 1155. The basic idea:
take off from an aircraft carrier as much helicopters as possible to take more planes,transfer ASW duties to such ships as variant 4

On variants 1,2,3 "Poliment" (in variant 3K96-1, the difference from 3K96-2 is ability to fire "big"
SAM from UKSK, Navy want 40N6 from UKSK but NPO "Almaz-Antey" has enough hemorrhoids with the integration of the missile in the S-400 , and they do not want to double their problems.On the other hand OKB "Novator" vows to "as soon as possible to integrate 9M83M into UKSK".)

on variant 4 it is "Poliment" in variant 3K96-2


My reasons to not like variant 4 is simple, places on Russian shipyards are limited
so +1"variant 4" = -1 "variants 1,2 or 3" and I think Russian Navy need moar UKSK


Keep in mind that all this variants from early 2013 and can be changes




Vici Supreme -> RE: BPC Vladivostok to be delivered Nov 14 (11/13/2014 2:01:05 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Triode

Variant 3 (aka "What we want",aka "Worthy successor for 1144")


12500/14700 tons, about 200 meters long, CODAG or nuclear power unit, ~ 30 knots

artillery 2x2x152 or 2x1x130 or 1x1x130

Air Defense: 4xCIWS(Naval Pantsir), 80xRedut cells

Missiles: 64xUKSK cells

2x4 Paket-NK

hangar for 2 helicopters

This is what Russian navy want when talk about "Nuclear DDG"


Yep, that sounds like something that is supposed to replace the Kirov's. [;)]
Thanks for sharing this informations with us! Much appreciated!




Styx3 -> RE: BPC Vladivostok to be delivered Nov 14 (11/13/2014 2:33:22 PM)

Thank you for your information. Russian vls systems can manage oniks or kalibr missiles?




Triode -> RE: BPC Vladivostok to be delivered Nov 14 (11/13/2014 3:59:35 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Styx3

Thank you for your information. Russian vls systems can manage oniks or kalibr missiles?


UKSK can fire both

http://concern-agat.ru/en/production/missile-systems-land-and-sea-based-missile-systems/3r-14uksk-kh-ship-general-purpose-firing-system

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K7EX_ItvVE

Export UKSK:
[image]http://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/15/11/39/27/355110.jpg[/image]

UKSK can be:

Containerized version(Russian Navy use this ):
[image]http://bastion-karpenko.narod.ru/3p-14uksk_ris_01.jpg[/image]

Containerless version( Indian Navy use this):
[image]http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/sites/default/files/missile/91re/3c14m_0.jpg[/image]

inclined on-deck launcher 3S-14PE
[image]http://sh8146.narod.ru/photo561.jpg[/image]




cf_dallas -> RE: BPC Vladivostok to be delivered Nov 14 (11/13/2014 5:37:08 PM)

http://rt.com/news/205071-france-russia-mistral-delivery/

Update...




xavierv -> RE: BPC Vladivostok to be delivered Nov 14 (11/25/2014 5:50:03 PM)

Official: Delivery of First Russian Mistral class LHD Vladivostok postponed "until further notice"
http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/defence-news/year-2014-news/november-2014-navy-naval-forces-maritime-industry-technology-security-global-news.html




NickD -> RE: BPC Vladivostok to be delivered Nov 14 (11/26/2014 12:26:44 AM)

Also: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30190069




Styx3 -> RE: BPC Vladivostok to be delivered Nov 14 (11/26/2014 2:01:07 PM)

Hollande the worst president of france ever.




mercho -> RE: BPC Vladivostok to be delivered Nov 14 (11/26/2014 3:29:33 PM)

Well he may be the worst president of france ever, but france is doing absolutely the right under the given circumstances.




NickD -> RE: BPC Vladivostok to be delivered Nov 14 (11/26/2014 8:59:44 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Styx3

Hollande the worst president of france ever.


Worse than the presidents who ran the country in the lead-up to 1940? [&:]




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