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Simulation01 -> Where are the developers? (9/4/2010 10:33:20 PM)

(Question reinstated due to popular demand [:D] )

Where are the developers? Are they busy developing an expansion? Are they developing an uber patch? Has Blizzard kidnapped them and forced them to play Starcraft II ( A truly horrible fate )?




lordxorn -> RE: please delete this thread (9/5/2010 1:32:34 AM)

Why did u delete the question, I was wondering the same




Simulation01 -> RE: please delete this thread (9/5/2010 3:51:44 AM)

well, I noticed a thread entitled 'addon' which contained a statement from Eric stating that it would be a while before they could say anything about it. I guess however I could reinstate the question.




Erik Rutins -> RE: please delete this thread (9/5/2010 4:27:43 AM)

Yes, very busy on expansion work, but another update is also in the works. Elliot has his head in the code and I'm unfortunately too busy to really comment much these days. The next 4-6 weeks are particularly crazy in my schedule, but we are here.

Regards,

- Erik




Simulation01 -> RE: please delete this thread (9/5/2010 4:37:05 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

Yes, very busy on expansion work, but another update is also in the works. Elliot has his head in the code and I'm unfortunately too busy to really comment much these days. The next 4-6 weeks are particularly crazy in my schedule, but we are here.

Regards,

- Erik



Thanks for the update! Good Luck on the projects![:)]


Ummmmm.....can you say anything about the update? *cringes in preparation for verbal assault*[;)]




Bartje -> RE: please delete this thread (9/5/2010 9:41:09 AM)

Thanks for the reply, goodluck Erik!

Can't wait for the update & expansion :)




Igard -> RE: please delete this thread (9/5/2010 1:20:56 PM)

I'll echo Bartje by saying, good luck guys. I look forward to the next update.

I'm sure the wish lists have given you plenty to think about.[:D]




ASHBERY76 -> RE: please delete this thread (9/5/2010 1:23:34 PM)

Some news about the expansion would be suffice.




Shark7 -> RE: please delete this thread (9/5/2010 3:38:49 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

Yes, very busy on expansion work, but another update is also in the works. Elliot has his head in the code and I'm unfortunately too busy to really comment much these days. The next 4-6 weeks are particularly crazy in my schedule, but we are here.

Regards,

- Erik



Been there. Hope you get a vacation when it's over, it's well deserved.




Baleur -> RE: please delete this thread (9/5/2010 10:23:38 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

Yes, very busy on expansion work, but another update is also in the works. Elliot has his head in the code and I'm unfortunately too busy to really comment much these days. The next 4-6 weeks are particularly crazy in my schedule, but we are here.

Regards,

- Erik


I wonder if this means no further patches until in 4-6 weeks?




2guncohen -> RE: please delete this thread (9/6/2010 7:37:24 AM)

I  always picture developers after a game goes golden to be  hanging in a hangmat  in "Hawai enjoying the Margarita's". [:D]





Simulation01 -> RE: please delete this thread (9/6/2010 2:38:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: 2guncohen

I  always picture developers after a game goes golden to be  hanging in a hangmat  in "Hawai enjoying the Margarita's". [:D]





In all honesty I actually heard that developers at the big company's like Blizzard and EA are treated more like slaves. Being forced to try and pump out game after game. You know they have to pump out those yearly NBA titles and such. At any rate I'm sure it's pretty stressful working at a place like Blizzard. Huge titles, looming deadlines, a@@hole superiors, horrible titles you'd rather spit at. That's just what I heard.




Shark7 -> RE: please delete this thread (9/6/2010 2:41:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: 2guncohen

I  always picture developers after a game goes golden to be  hanging in a hangmat  in "Hawai enjoying the Margarita's". [:D]




Reality: Designers after game release are far busier trying to squish all the bugs beta testers missed, I know from experience. [sm=Christo_pull_hair.gif]




T_K -> RE: please delete this thread (9/6/2010 3:33:26 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Simulation01


quote:

ORIGINAL: 2guncohen

I  always picture developers after a game goes golden to be  hanging in a hangmat  in "Hawai enjoying the Margarita's". [:D]





In all honesty I actually heard that developers at the big company's like Blizzard and EA are treated more like slaves. Being forced to try and pump out game after game. You know they have to pump out those yearly NBA titles and such. At any rate I'm sure it's pretty stressful working at a place like Blizzard. Huge titles, looming deadlines, a@@hole superiors, horrible titles you'd rather spit at. That's just what I heard.


I think that's how it is with EA, but not sure if it's the same with Blizzard. They take their time.




Webbco -> RE: please delete this thread (9/6/2010 4:13:11 PM)

Chris Taylor is releasing a weekly video blog for his upcoming RTS Kings and Castles. It's quite amusing and also interesting to see an example of how the devs and team progress through conceptual, pre-production, production etc phases of game-making...it's probably not very realistic but gives a bit of a sneak preview into what a company has to do in order to eventually release a game.




WoodMan -> RE: please delete this thread (9/6/2010 6:09:33 PM)

quote:

In all honesty I actually heard that developers at the big company's like Blizzard and EA are treated more like slaves. Being forced to try and pump out game after game. You know they have to pump out those yearly NBA titles and such. At any rate I'm sure it's pretty stressful working at a place like Blizzard. Huge titles, looming deadlines, a@@hole superiors, horrible titles you'd rather spit at. That's just what I heard.


I remember several years back, there was some kind of story in the New York Times I think (not sure, I'm not American, so I can't remember exact details) where the wife of a worker at EA was trying to sue the company for breaching some kind of Human Rights Laws.  I think she claimed something along the lines of her husbands skin was losing its colour because his working hours were so long he never actually saw sunlight or something, and all he could eat was takeaway delivered to his work and never got to eat a meal at home. [:-]




Simulation01 -> RE: please delete this thread (9/7/2010 8:52:03 PM)

Electronic Arts lawsuit:

EA Lawsuit


http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/26803/Controversy_Erupts_Over_Rockstar_San_Diego_Employee_Allegations.php




the1sean -> RE: please delete this thread (9/8/2010 4:08:02 AM)

EA is well known for abusing its workers. Blizzard has a great reputation as an employer from what I have heard and read...




Shark7 -> RE: please delete this thread (9/8/2010 5:11:22 PM)


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ORIGINAL: the1sean

EA is well known for abusing its workers. Blizzard has a great reputation as an employer from what I have heard and read...


A lot of it depends on the size of the company as well. Larger corporations tend to be more corrupt in their ways, smaller corporation tend to appreciate their employees more.




Registered55 -> RE: please delete this thread (9/9/2010 12:23:30 PM)

thanks for the update, it's just nice to hear those words eric, speculations can always get out of hand,

at least we all know now, a patch is coming within the next several weeks, and work is definitely started on the expansion.

and all developers are hands on with the project, no time for forum updates, which is good, the more there hands on with the project the faster things get done,

but eric did say there still here, meaning there still reading the posts, but with such early stages of development, nothing they say may come true, so best not to say anything just yet,

it was very re-assuring to hear from eric and what he had to say,

we just need to give them 2 maybe 3 months to get the preliminary stages out the way, then they'll no doubt be back,




J HG T -> RE: please delete this thread (9/9/2010 5:34:02 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: the1sean

EA is well known for abusing its workers. Blizzard has a great reputation as an employer from what I have heard and read...


If you have good eyes and instincts you can even see this from games companies make. I'm not fan of Blizzard, but everytime I happen to play their games the love for gaming can be felt from the game. I think this is true with pretty much every classic game.




Baleur -> RE: please delete this thread (9/10/2010 3:03:30 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: J HG T


quote:

ORIGINAL: the1sean

EA is well known for abusing its workers. Blizzard has a great reputation as an employer from what I have heard and read...


If you have good eyes and instincts you can even see this from games companies make. I'm not fan of Blizzard, but everytime I happen to play their games the love for gaming can be felt from the game. I think this is true with pretty much every classic game.


Indeed.. (teal'c voice).
Just look at the Need For Speed games. Enough said. That franchize has switched development teams more times than fabio switched condoms.
And each of them did a ****ty job on it, as if they didnt care, just pump out a quick dirty version for the poor 6 year old kids who think the cover looks cool and dont know any better.




J HG T -> RE: please delete this thread (9/10/2010 3:28:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Baleur



Indeed.. (teal'c voice).
Just look at the Need For Speed games. Enough said. That franchize has switched development teams more times than fabio switched condoms.
And each of them did a ****ty job on it, as if they didnt care, just pump out a quick dirty version for the poor 6 year old kids who think the cover looks cool and dont know any better.


Don't forget MW2, Call of Dutys and others.

That's the gaming world we live in. Heck, almost everytime I browse the games at my local Supermarket some kid comes with his father and/or mother and convinces them to buy him some K16 or K18 game because "it's just so cool" and "my friends play it also" and don't forget "I can play this with my friends over the internetz". I've been inches away to interfere to this and give the parents a lesson in age restrictions.
Then again, I believe people should learn from some mistakes by themselves.







lordxorn -> RE: please delete this thread (9/11/2010 6:28:33 AM)


Speaking of EA, back in 2003 when I worked for Comp USA in Playa Vista, Ca, EA has just opened a new office building right next to the new homes. It was a nice multi story glass building complete with a fitness gym, out door soccer field and volley ball net.

I would see some of the employees outside using those fields. They also struck a deal with Comp USA, to have us come over and install a JBL Home Theater System complimentary of EA for an employee who relocated to apartments right across the street from their building there.

Maybe this was in response to all the negative criticism they were receiving for the employee relations or lack there of.




Simulation01 -> RE: please delete this thread (9/11/2010 11:17:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: lordxorn


Speaking of EA, back in 2003 when I worked for Comp USA in Playa Vista, Ca, EA has just opened a new office building right next to the new homes. It was a nice multi story glass building complete with a fitness gym, out door soccer field and volley ball net.

I would see some of the employees outside using those fields. They also struck a deal with Comp USA, to have us come over and install a JBL Home Theater System complimentary of EA for an employee who relocated to apartments right across the street from their building there.

Maybe this was in response to all the negative criticism they were receiving for the employee relations or lack there of.



I'm sure you've heard the saying about "closing the barn doors after all the horses are gone already". That's what that reminds me of. I'm pretty sure that EA has probably tried to address it's problems. The really sad truth is that even if they have truly got their act together it will take a long time to repair their reputation. Also, pumping out let down games is not going to help. I'm not talking about talent either...I'm sure there are extremely talented people their....they just lost their Je ne sais quoi ( that something special ).




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