Does this Wargaming to be American hobby only?
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Does this Wargaming to be American hobby only?
It seems like it. Huge market for it I definitely agree. Even British&American game designers looking for native language while responding.Very pity I imagine World is big about conflicts. [;)]
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RE: Does this Wargaming to be American hobby only?
Don't forget about the Finns
RE: Does this Wargaming to be American hobby only?
As Major Mess said, wargaming goes strong here. Warhammer miniature war games are big deals here, and Steel Panthers video games made it big too.
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RE: Does this Wargaming to be American hobby only?
Spanish, Italians, French are as well war gamers. Just look at the section for spanish and english language.
RE: Does this Wargaming to be American hobby only?
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It seems like it. Huge market for it I definitely agree. Even British&American game designers looking for native language while responding.Very pity I imagine World is big about conflicts. [;)]
Are you referring to game titles being US-centric or the number of players around seem to be mostly American or what? It would also be interesting to know where that opinion stems from - what games are you playing and what forums do you visit?
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RE: Does this Wargaming to be American hobby only?
Probably more a case of anglo-centric forums.
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RE: Does this Wargaming to be American hobby only?
Probably two different things here:
- US designers design for a US market, so non-US wars are less well covered
- English language forums and websites tend to cover English language games
- US designers design for a US market, so non-US wars are less well covered
- English language forums and websites tend to cover English language games
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Today, reports that last month was the best month for video games, I wonder why?
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Probably two different things here:
- US designers design for a US market, so non-US wars are less well covered
- English language forums and websites tend to cover English language games
While that's probably true in general, I don't think the OPs commentary is accurate even to this forum. Lost of Aussies, EnZeds, Brits*, French, Koreans, Swedish, Limeys*, Germans, Austrians, Finns, Canadians, folks from the UK* and so on and so on.
*Yeah, I know. I mentioned them three times. I like Brits.
RE: Does this Wargaming to be American hobby only?
They´re wargamers in many countries. In Spain, an example that I know, there is a strong community and an active big forum: Puntadelanza (Spearhead). I know others ones in France and Italy. Surely in Germany and others.
In addition, there are good wargames creators in Europe... but in local languages about local conflicts. In Spain there are games about our Civil War, Reconquista, spanish wars in Europe, etc..
But the mean wargaming industry in the world is american. Their cultural and warlike past is anglo-centric. So it´s understandable for an english speaker that all the wargames seems anglo-centric, because the american industry has got a significant share of the international market and customers in all the world. On the other hand, in many countries to speak several languages is normal ​​(my country has 4 official languages) and reading a wargame manual in another language is not a trouble and the English one is known to many wargamers.
In addition, there are good wargames creators in Europe... but in local languages about local conflicts. In Spain there are games about our Civil War, Reconquista, spanish wars in Europe, etc..
But the mean wargaming industry in the world is american. Their cultural and warlike past is anglo-centric. So it´s understandable for an english speaker that all the wargames seems anglo-centric, because the american industry has got a significant share of the international market and customers in all the world. On the other hand, in many countries to speak several languages is normal ​​(my country has 4 official languages) and reading a wargame manual in another language is not a trouble and the English one is known to many wargamers.
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RE: Does this Wargaming to be American hobby only?
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Probably two different things here:
- US designers design for a US market, so non-US wars are less well covered
- English language forums and websites tend to cover English language games
While that's probably true in general, I don't think the OPs commentary is accurate even to this forum. Lost of Aussies, EnZeds, Brits*, French, Koreans, Swedish, Limeys*, Germans, Austrians, Finns, Canadians, folks from the UK* and so on and so on.
*Yeah, I know. I mentioned them three times. I like Brits.
RE: Does this Wargaming to be American hobby only?
I remember someone from China posting in this forum and explaining something about Chinese war games. You can scratch the surface by heading to Steam and typing search words: three kingdoms
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China, Korea and Japan have got a good industry in wargaming. But it isn´t well known by westerns and they are not looking for an international market either. They already have a huge local market.
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RE: Does this Wargaming to be American hobby only?
AFAIK there is also an active wargaming community in Russia. We probably don't see many of them on foreign sites because many of these players don't speak English, and some western forums even block access from Russia (DAMHIK).
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AFAIK there is also an active wargaming community in Russia. We probably don't see many of them on foreign sites because many of these players don't speak English, and some western forums even block access from Russia (DAMHIK).
OP, but...
That’s an unfortunate side effect of spamming.
I run a modest forum, but I am not very discriminating when I block an IP range.
Since many spammers are active in the Ukraine and Russia, those IPs end up being blocked.
Probably blocked a lot of African IP ranges as well.
Other than that I would have welcomed Russian input on the historical forum I host.
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RE: Does this Wargaming to be American hobby only?
I understand perfectly well, I have exactly the same problem...probably 80% of spam sign-ups on my forum are from Russia/Ukraine. I don't block IPs yet, but I might as well, because at this point I delete almost all .ru e-mail addresses without a second look.ORIGINAL: Simulacra53
I run a modest forum, but I am not very discriminating when I block an IP range.
Since many spammers are active in the Ukraine and Russia, those IPs end up being blocked.
RE: Does this Wargaming to be American hobby only?
The fact that a nation has won or lost a war will condition their interest in the game. Who controls the internet is just as important. We have just lived 70 years of American influence, the future seems rather turned towards Asia with 5G.
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The fact that a nation has won or lost a war will condition their interest in the game. Who controls the internet is just as important. We have just lived 70 years of American influence, the future seems rather turned towards Asia with 5G.
We are talking about a fringe, imo easy to pull out of proportion.
The US is a relatively big country in terms of internal market and it has the benefit of having English as a primary language.
This means enough internal sales to make production runs viable and the added bonus of exports to anyone willing to play English language games.
Market viability also increases exposure, which increases sales.
A fringe product in a big market is still profitable.
Computer (war) gaming is another story all together.
Now let’s talk about the oldest wargames around like Checkers and Chess, how are these distributed around the globe?
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RE: Does this Wargaming to be American hobby only?
A question about spammers. Are they real people doing a part / full-time "job" or is it now an automatic thing: bots are unleashed en masse to flood internet sites and sell x product?
.ru or .ng [Nigeria] means there are human troll farms in these countries, just like call centers? Or they are just convenient places (with lax laws) to set up automatic [bots] ponzi schemes and flood the internets?
.ru or .ng [Nigeria] means there are human troll farms in these countries, just like call centers? Or they are just convenient places (with lax laws) to set up automatic [bots] ponzi schemes and flood the internets?
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RE: Does this Wargaming to be American hobby only?
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A question about spammers. Are they real people doing a part / full-time "job" or is it now an automatic thing: bots are unleashed en masse to flood internet sites and sell x product?
.ru or .ng [Nigeria] means there are human troll farms in these countries, just like call centers? Or they are just convenient places (with lax laws) to set up automatic [bots] ponzi schemes and flood the internets?
I do believe that in Russia, there are actual business that do this. In Nigeria, I think that some of the spammers work together but are much smaller in size.
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