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Targeting

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Have two S-3's well within radar range of a large enemy formation so I Launch an alpha strike of 24 aircraft to take it out. On a multiple axis attack, I launch a full compliment of Harpoons (over 20) but none find the target! How can this be? The S-3 should be providing accurate targeting data to the strike. With its ISAR radar, shouldn't it be able to identify the main target with no problems?
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That result does seem unlikely.

What was being attacked? The formation's point defense could be quite... formidable. What database and scenario were you playing?
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The target is the Admiral Ushakov, manned by the Chinese. It only has one Luda escort. It is a multi-axis attack with Prowlers jamming. I am playing the Taiwan scenario.
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ORIGINAL: Otay

The target is the Admiral Ushakov, manned by the Chinese. It only has one Luda escort. It is a multi-axis attack with Prowlers jamming. I am playing the Taiwan scenario.
That explains it. He is one tough nut to crack. When the Harpoons drop off the planes towards the target, you may lose contact with them because they do not have a datalink with the launching platform. Most likely, the Ushakov simply shot them all out of the air. 20 Harpoons is not very much when going up against a target such as the BCGN.
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Easy to verify too, just check how many SAM-CIWS the defenders shot off. But I agree that harpoons are prehistoric weapons that went out of effective use with the whalehunters
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Shouldn't I have seen a CIWS film firing? Also, I had a submarine at PD launch a torpedo at a Chinese Frigate from about three miles out and missed! Again, targeting is an issue here.
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With only 20 Harpoons in the air, I doubt that they would even have needed the CIWS.  The SAMs probably took care of them all.

Which database and submarine were you using?  The fact that the torpedo missed is not unlikely.  For example, the PlayersDB assigns some of the Chinese Yu-class torpedoes only 50% Probability of Kill [PoK].  Also, there may be decoys aboard the ship.  So, a single torpedo missing is not outside the realm of possibility.
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I am using the Standard Harpoon 3 Database. The submarine in question was the USS San Juan.
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Are you certain that it was a miss?  The Mk 48 ADCAP torpedoes are pretty accurate.  However, there is always a chance of a miss.  Another thing that could have happened is that the torpedo might have detected a second (louder) target and decided to chase it instead of the one you originally selected.  The second target may be far enough away that the torpedo had insufficient fuel to catch it.  Without a specific saved game file to examine, only speculation is possible.
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