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Un/Grouping ships into a fleet - 11/7/2021 3:22:31 PM   
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Hi, I was wondering which advantages/inconvenient I have to keep my ships grouped into a fleet as compared to having the same ships but ungrouped and managed individually as a fleet, apart obviously that less orders are necessary to manage a group than x individual ships ?
Another way to ask the same question : if I ungroup my ships, what do I lose (e.g. will a group be more efficient in defense than individual ships or it's the same ?)

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RE: Un/Grouping ships into a fleet - 11/7/2021 5:47:12 PM   
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Hi, I was wondering which advantages/inconvenient I have to keep my ships grouped into a fleet as compared to having the same ships but ungrouped and managed individually as a fleet, apart obviously that less orders are necessary to manage a group than x individual ships ?
Another way to ask the same question : if I ungroup my ships, what do I lose (e.g. will a group be more efficient in defense than individual ships or it's the same ?)

thx


Defensively there is no further advantage than maintaining a unit position you deemed the most favorable toward defense.
If using land facilities, munitions will transfer from a magazine-type unit to a matching mount. This allows for reloads etc.

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RE: Un/Grouping ships into a fleet - 11/7/2021 6:06:38 PM   
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Just as an aside. Given suitable time and space, ungrouping detected units might be a good move in the cases of facing nukes, opponent salvo size decisions, and enemy missions triggered by the detection. Good things to think about and weigh out.

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RE: Un/Grouping ships into a fleet - 11/8/2021 8:56:17 AM   
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Another way to ask the same question : if I ungroup my ships, what do I lose (e.g. will a group be more efficient in defense than individual ships or it's the same ?
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Generally speaking if you're managing the group of ships for yourself (micro managing), you lose nothing really defensively, and gain some control and maybe a few less "why is that ship doing that" situations. Often for long-hauls though relatively neutral or friendly territory I group'em for ease of management (that also keeps them at a speed they can all maintain so they arrive together), but when they get to where they're going, or time for serious engagement I un-group things, an not just ships.

Really all you're losing is automatic formation related controls along with ease of 1 place to set overall wra\doctrine for all ships at once.


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RE: Un/Grouping ships into a fleet - 11/8/2021 10:43:39 AM   
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I think grouping ships into task forces makes it convenient to move them in large scenarios and keeps them concentrated. Tactically, keeping the same ships sailing in the same pattern individually vs. a group does not seem to effect sensor detection or fire control. Maybe it does. Not being an expert, this is a great question. Modern warfare is evolving into one platform detecting and an another firing even though the firer can't "see" what its firing at. GPS etc.

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RE: Un/Grouping ships into a fleet - 11/8/2021 12:36:31 PM   
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I'm not 100% sure if this is still the case, but Sprint and Drift keeps the whole group together better if you have the ships grouped. If you don't have the ship grouped, then often i saw that the distance is increasing between the ships more than if i have the ships grouped. Maybe sprint and drift is syncronizsed if grouped?

Anyway. As soon as the group is attacked with missiles i ungroup the ships so i can better manage (change course etc) and i have better manual control as KnightHawk already mention

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RE: Un/Grouping ships into a fleet - 11/8/2021 3:09:53 PM   
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Thanks guys for your answers.

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