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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/20/2021 12:33:59 PM   
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<type>Correction/Update</type>
<summary> DB#2051 MH-68A Enforcer </summary>
<detail> Please add weapon Weapon #3736 12.7mm Anti-material rifle as USCG HITRON helicopters carry these for disabling shots. <detail>
<evidence>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicopter_Interdiction_Tactical_Squadron#Weapons
https://special-ops.org/us-coast-guard-hitron/
<evidence>


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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/20/2021 12:43:02 PM   
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<summary> Add USCG MH-90 Enforcer </summary>
<detail> Leased MD 900 and MD 902 helicopters designated MH-90 Enforcer, used 1998-2000 replaced my the MH-68A. 1 7.62mm LMG and 1 12.7mm anti-material rifle <detail>
<evidence>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicopter_Interdiction_Tactical_Squadron
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MD_Helicopters_MD_Explorer#Variants
https://www.helis.com/database/sqd/HITRON/
<evidence>


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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/20/2021 1:11:00 PM   
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<summary> Add USCG MH-65C Dolphin </summary>
<detail> HH-65 upgrades replaced the MH-68A in HITRON use from 2008 with MH-67C. 1 7.62mm LMG and 1 12.7mm anti-material rifle <detail>
<evidence>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurocopter_MH-65_Dolphin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicopter_Interdiction_Tactical_Squadron
https://www.helis.com/database/sqd/HITRON/
https://www.dcms.uscg.mil/Our-Organization/Assistant-Commandant-for-Acquisitions-CG-9/Programs/Air-Programs/SRR-MH-65/
<evidence>

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/20/2021 1:21:33 PM   
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<type>New</type>
<summary> Add USCG HH-65B/C and MH-65D/E Dolphin </summary>
<detail> HH-65 upgrades in HITRON use from 2001 for HH-65B, 2004 for HH-65C, 2011 for MH-65D, and 2017 for MH-65E. Upgraded lift/cargo capabilities and sensors <detail>
<evidence>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurocopter_MH-65_Dolphin
https://www.dcms.uscg.mil/Our-Organization/Assistant-Commandant-for-Acquisitions-CG-9/Programs/Air-Programs/SRR-MH-65/
https://www.naval-technology.com/projects/hh65-dolphin/
https://www.airbus.com/us/en/helicopters/military-helicopters/mh65.html
https://www.helis.com/database/news/mh-65e_rss/
https://www.militaryaerospace.com/computers/article/16718628/coast-guard-chooses-weather-radar-from-rockwell-collins-for-future-mh65e-utility-helicopters
https://www.flightglobal.com/helicopters/us-coast-guard-mh-65-helicopter-upgrades-start-full-rate-production/136329.article
https://www.nhahistoricalsociety.org/coast-guard-hh-65a-mh-65c-d-e-dolphin-helicopter/
https://verticalmag.com/news/u-s-coast-guard-prepares-mh-65e-upgrade/
<evidence>

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/20/2021 1:29:48 PM   
tylerblakebrandon

 

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<type>New</type>
<summary> Add USCG MH-60T Jayhawk</summary>
<detail> Medium range recovery helicopter. 39 surviving HH-60J airframes received upgraded avionics and operational capabilities, including armaments, from 2007 to 2014. Three SH-60Fs were converted to MH-60T specifications as attrition replacements. <detail>
<evidence>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikorsky_MH-60_Jayhawk
https://www.dcms.uscg.mil/Our-Organization/Assistant-Commandant-for-Acquisitions-CG-9/Programs/Air-Programs/MRR-MH-60T/
https://www.military.com/equipment/mh-60-jayhawk
https://www.homelandsecurity-technology.com/projects/mh-60t-medium-range-recovery-helicopter/
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/07/u-s-coast-guard-orders-five-additional-new-mh-60t-hulls-from-sikorsky/
<evidence>

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/20/2021 6:33:44 PM   
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<type>Correction</type>
<summary> HIGH LARK 1 and 2 radar used in the Mig-23 is NATO "J" band, vice "I" band</summary>
<detail> The HIGH LARK 2 radar is listed as being in the "I" band. In fact it is a 10-15 GHz radar, operating in the lower "J" band. See below <detail>
<evidence>Advanced Tactical Fighter to F-22 Raptor_ Origins of the 21st Century Air, pg. 268 - David C. Aronstein; https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/39824/this-myth-busting-walk-around-of-the-soviet-mig-23-flogger-fighter-is-a-must-watch;







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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/20/2021 7:31:32 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: CV60

<type>Correction</type>
<summary> HIGH LARK 1 and 2 radar used in the Mig-23 is NATO "J" band, vice "I" band</summary>
<detail> The HIGH LARK 2 radar is listed as being in the "I" band. In fact it is a 10-15 GHz radar, operating in the lower "J" band. See below <detail>
<evidence>Advanced Tactical Fighter to F-22 Raptor_ Origins of the 21st Century Air, pg. 268 - David C. Aronstein; https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/39824/this-myth-busting-walk-around-of-the-soviet-mig-23-flogger-fighter-is-a-must-watch;
...


I am not an expert in this but search for this also shows references of 9 GHz for High Lark 2:

https://books.google.cz/books?id=ff-zDgAAQBAJ&pg=PT286&lpg=PT286&dq=%22n003%22+%22high+lark%22+%22ghz%22&source=bl&ots=5CzSQCfdVy&sig=ACfU3U3Ji_7lfQVv22q0disl9XEINVhTnw&hl=cs&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjXje6PpI7zAhWvhv0HHdHbDNgQ6AF6BAgDEAM#v=onepage&q=%22n003%22%20%22high%20lark%22%20%22ghz%22&f=false

I don't know which information is correct.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/21/2021 1:57:30 PM   
CV60


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quote:

ORIGINAL: PN79


quote:

ORIGINAL: CV60

<type>Correction</type>
<summary> HIGH LARK 1 and 2 radar used in the Mig-23 is NATO "J" band, vice "I" band</summary>
<detail> The HIGH LARK 2 radar is listed as being in the "I" band. In fact it is a 10-15 GHz radar, operating in the lower "J" band. See below <detail>
<evidence>Advanced Tactical Fighter to F-22 Raptor_ Origins of the 21st Century Air, pg. 268 - David C. Aronstein; https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/39824/this-myth-busting-walk-around-of-the-soviet-mig-23-flogger-fighter-is-a-must-watch;
...


I am not an expert in this but search for this also shows references of 9 GHz for High Lark 2:

https://books.google.cz/books?id=ff-zDgAAQBAJ&pg=PT286&lpg=PT286&dq=%22n003%22+%22high+lark%22+%22ghz%22&source=bl&ots=5CzSQCfdVy&sig=ACfU3U3Ji_7lfQVv22q0disl9XEINVhTnw&hl=cs&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjXje6PpI7zAhWvhv0HHdHbDNgQ6AF6BAgDEAM#v=onepage&q=%22n003%22%20%22high%20lark%22%20%22ghz%22&f=false

I don't know which information is correct.


Thank you for looking at this. You have identified one of the problems I frequently run into when checking some of the databases. Frequently, there are inconsistencies in the data. I have Mladenov's book and as I write description files, I am using it as a reference for checking some of the data in the database, including the question on the High Lark radar. You are correct that he identifies High Lark 2's carrier frequency as being "I" band. However, I'm guessing that he is wrong on this, for the following reasons:
1) One of the sources I provided is quoting a US pilot who flies a Mig-23 in Florida. The article states "The MiG-23ML that we see in Florida still has its J-band radar installed. Known to NATO as High Lark 2, this operates across 10,000 to 20,000 megahertz and has a range of 53 miles, Ward says. " Because this is a first-hand source, I give it more credibility.
2) In an article on the R-23R Apex A missile SARH that is used by the Flogger G, the RGS-23 sensor is describes as operating in the J-band see "https://www.aereimilitari.org/Armamenti/R-23-Apex.htm" This is consistent with the High Lark 2 operating in the J-band. Of note, Jane's Air-Launched Weapons, "AA-7 'Apex' (R-23, R-24)" 09 November 2001 also confirms that the R-24R is a J-band missile, indicating that "High Lark 2" is a J-band radar.
3) the authors of the book that has the chart I used are aerospace engineers who worked on the F-22 project, and the book itself is a technical, vice a popular book on the subject, so presumably they had better info than Mladenov. Their CV from Amazon is as follows: Dr. David C. Aronstein is a principal aerospace engineer at ANSER in Arlington, Virginia, where he provides senior technical support to such programs as the Joint Strike Fighter and F-22 air superiority fighter. Mr. Albert C. Piccirillo is a principal aerospace engineer and a manager of the Joint Technology Division at ANSER, where he leads technical and analytical efforts on advanced weapons systems, including the Joint Strike Fighter. Michael J. Hirschberg is an aerospace engineer at ANSER, Inc. He currently supports the Propulsion Management Team for the Joint Strike Fighter Program.

Mladenov is good. As I said earlier, I use him as a source for some of the description files. But in this case I think the evidence indicates that he is incorrect on this point

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/21/2021 4:11:42 PM   
MarkJoergensen

 

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<type>Correction/Update</type>
<summary> DB#2331 F 361 Iver Huitfeldt </summary>
<detail> Standard loadout of the Iver Huidtfeldt class in Denmark is 4xMk141 instead of 2, for a total of 16 Harpoon missiles</detail>
<evidence> Danish wiki-page. SME's at the Danish Defence College. (Cant post links yet) <evidence>
<note> The ship, as well as the Absalon-class, are equipped using the modular Stanflex system. Standard harpoon loadout is 2 harpoon systems of 8 launchers each. They may be equipped with fewer, or with more, should mission circumstances dictate it. Also, the MDV in command seems very low for the Iver, particularly in light of the SM2 missiles. Typo? <note>


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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/21/2021 6:06:34 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: CV60

...

Thank you for looking at this. You have identified one of the problems I frequently run into when checking some of the databases. Frequently, there are inconsistencies in the data. I have Mladenov's book and as I write description files, I am using it as a reference for checking some of the data in the database, including the question on the High Lark radar. You are correct that he identifies High Lark 2's carrier frequency as being "I" band. However, I'm guessing that he is wrong on this, for the following reasons:
1) One of the sources I provided is quoting a US pilot who flies a Mig-23 in Florida. The article states "The MiG-23ML that we see in Florida still has its J-band radar installed. Known to NATO as High Lark 2, this operates across 10,000 to 20,000 megahertz and has a range of 53 miles, Ward says. " Because this is a first-hand source, I give it more credibility.
2) In an article on the R-23R Apex A missile SARH that is used by the Flogger G, the RGS-23 sensor is describes as operating in the J-band see "https://www.aereimilitari.org/Armamenti/R-23-Apex.htm" This is consistent with the High Lark 2 operating in the J-band. Of note, Jane's Air-Launched Weapons, "AA-7 'Apex' (R-23, R-24)" 09 November 2001 also confirms that the R-24R is a J-band missile, indicating that "High Lark 2" is a J-band radar.
3) the authors of the book that has the chart I used are aerospace engineers who worked on the F-22 project, and the book itself is a technical, vice a popular book on the subject, so presumably they had better info than Mladenov. Their CV from Amazon is as follows: Dr. David C. Aronstein is a principal aerospace engineer at ANSER in Arlington, Virginia, where he provides senior technical support to such programs as the Joint Strike Fighter and F-22 air superiority fighter. Mr. Albert C. Piccirillo is a principal aerospace engineer and a manager of the Joint Technology Division at ANSER, where he leads technical and analytical efforts on advanced weapons systems, including the Joint Strike Fighter. Michael J. Hirschberg is an aerospace engineer at ANSER, Inc. He currently supports the Propulsion Management Team for the Joint Strike Fighter Program.

Mladenov is good. As I said earlier, I use him as a source for some of the description files. But in this case I think the evidence indicates that he is incorrect on this point


You are probably right. But apart of confirmation of X band in current terminology I was not able to find clear confirmation.


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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/21/2021 7:19:44 PM   
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<type>Correction</type>
<summary> DB3K Facility_2538 YLC-8B radar </summary>
<detail> Database shows this to be a 2D radar. PRC claims it has 3D capability. Additionally, it operates in the B/C (NATO) band (UHF), vice the "A" (HF/VHF) band. </detail>
<evidence> "Ancile." Ancile. Accessed September 21, 2021. https://www.deagel.com/Sensor%20Systems/YLC-8B/a003069. ;"A Closer Look At Stealth, Part 4: Counterstealth Radars At Zhuhai 2016." Aviation Week Network - Portal Aviation Week Network. Accessed September 21, 2021. https://m.aviationweek.com/defense-space/closer-look-stealth-part-4-counterstealth-radars-zhuhai-2016. ; Pike, John. "Chinese Military Radar." GlobalSecurity.org. Last modified January 5, 2021. https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/china/radar-intro.htm. ;"YLC-8B - Radartutorial." Grundlagen Der Radartechnik. Accessed September 21, 2021. https://www.radartutorial.eu/19.kartei/02.surv/karte065.en.html. ; "Military Balance India Vs China, Air Defense Systems Part 2- Chinese Radars." Full Afterburner. Accessed September 21, 2021. https://fullafterburner.weebly.com/next-gen-weapons/military-balance-india-vs-china-air-defense-systems-part-2-chinese-radars.<evidence>
<note> YLC-8B is a long-range, 3D, road mobile, active phased array, early warning radar optimized for stealth targets and capable of tracking aircraft and ballistic missiles. It operates in the B or C (NATO) UHF (IEEE) Band. <note>

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 9/21/2021 8:18:33 PM   
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Could I request the following:

RSS Sir David Attenborough

HMS ECHO

https://www.bas.ac.uk/polar-operations/sites-and-facilities/facility/rrs-sir-david-attenborough/

https://military.wikia.org/wiki/HMS_Echo_(H87)

https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/europe/hms-echo.htm

Thank you

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 9/21/2021 9:00:32 PM   
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<type>Correction</type>
<summary> Correction to range on GM 406 radars DB3K Facility_2180, 2179, 2183 </summary>
<detail> Database shows the GM 406 radar to have same 275 nm range as GM 403 radars. In fact, while identical to the GM 403, the GM 406 has a more powerful transmitter that is advertised as increasing the range of the system by 20% </detail>
<evidence>"GM 403 - Radartutorial." Grundlagen Der Radartechnik. Accessed September 21, 2021. https://www.radartutorial.eu/19.kartei/02.surv/karte016.en.html. <evidence>

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 9/23/2021 10:31:52 AM   
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<type>ERROR</type>
<summary>#3025 - AN/AVQ-27 Kit [EO + LRMTS, 12k ft] has no ability to illuminate targets</summary>
<detail>#3025 - AN/AVQ-27 Kit [EO + LRMTS, 12k ft] has not ability to illuminate targets but is stated to be a LRMTS. In Saudi F5E/F5F load outs this means the buddy lasing doesn't work.
When I added a Wing Loon to designate the targets everything was fine, weather height etc are all within parameters. </detail>
<evidence>From DB489 ENTRY - appears F-5F with AVQ-27 cannot buddy lase for the GBU-12 carried by F-5E regardless of circumstances
1x AN/AVQ-27 [Laser Designator] 10 nm Laser Target Designator & Ranger (LTD/R) Surface Search, Ground Search (Fixed), Ground Search (Mobile), Range Information 360.
Evidence is that if you try to do it it wont work.
</evidence>
Thanks
K



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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 9/23/2021 11:48:33 AM   
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<type>Correction/Update</type>
<summary> #1755 - AIM-132A ASRAAM Range is too short </summary>
<detail> The AIM-132A ASRAAM is designed to have a longer range than peer IRMs due to its larger motor and lack of forward fins. In the current DB, it has an identical range to the smaller AIM-2000 IRIS-T (15nm). It should have a max range of 50KM.
</detail>
<evidence>
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/mbda-delivers-asraam-for-uk-f-35-integration/
http://www.military-today.com/missiles/asraam.htm
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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 9/23/2021 8:20:52 PM   
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<summary>DB3K489, Kaan-20 (MRTP-20 (MultiRole Tactical Platform)),..., 61, Patrol Vessel/Fast Intervention Craft (PP/PBF), Egyptian Navy</summary>
<detail>First unit 2012 in service, 6 units, build by Yunca Turkey</detail>
Manufacturer:
Length 22.55 m, Beam 4.76 m, Draft still 1.35, Draft at speed 0.95 m
Structure Advanced composite (DNV GL HSLC)
Max Speed 61+, 2 x 800 kW - 2 x 1800 kW diesels, Arneson surface drives + surface piercing propellors or waterjets
Range 350+ nm, Boat crew 5, mission crew 6, fuel 4600 ltrs
WFT2020/2022 (Weyers Flotten Taschenbuch):
Displacement: 138, Length 22.5, Beam 4.8, Draft 1.3, Crew 5
1 MG, 1 navigation radar, Speed 45, Machinery 2 MTU-DM, Range 350
JFS 13/14:
Displacement 38 t, Length 22.55 m, Beam 4.76 m, Draft 1.3 m,
Max Speed: 60 kts, Range 350 nm at 35 kts,
Complement 5, 2 MTU 12V 2000 M92 diesels; 3600 hp(m) (4.8 MW), 2 Arneson ASD 12 B1L surface drives
1 General Dynamics GAU-19 3-barrelled 12.7 mm gatling gun
Enlarged MRTP-15, Advanced composites contrustion and deep-V hull
Other:
Image shows radome I-band nav radar
<evidence>
https://www.yonca-onuk.com/mrtp20.html
https://www.yonca-onuk.com/upload/MTRP-20-yonca-onuk.pdf
http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=386
https://twitter.com/egyptdefreview/status/1083005399702405120
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/first-mrtp-20-delivered-to-egypt-navy.146983/
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/europe/tcg-mtrp.htm
http://www.onuk.com/sea/vessel/onuk-mrtp20-improved-fast-intervention-craft/#tab-id-2
http://www.onuk.com/sea/vessel/onuk-mrtp20-improved-fast-intervention-craft/#tab-id-3
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with regards Gert-Jan

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 9/24/2021 9:55:18 AM   
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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>DB3K489, Shahab Misr (Pohang flight III) class, F 1000, Corvette (FFL), Egyptian Navy</summary>
<detail>1 unit in class, transferred from South Korea in 2017 by Hundai Ulsan, ex-Jin Ju, South Korean build
WFT2020/2022:
Displacement 1180, Length 88.3, Beam 10, Draft 5.5, crew 95,
Max speed 32, Machinery LM 2500 GTu +SEMT-P-DM, Range 4000 at 15
Old-Navypedia (internet):
Displacement standard 950, Displ full 1220, 2 shafts, Power hp 27200/6260
2 x 1 - 76/62 OTO-Melara Compact, 2 x 2 - 40/70 Breda-Bofors Compact Twin 40, 2 x 3 - 324 Mk 32 TT, 2 DCR(12)
SPS-64(v), WM-28 radars, Radamec e/o director, PHS-32 sonar, ULQ-12K ECM suite, 4x Protean decoy RL, 2x TACM torpedo decoy launchers, WSA-423 CCS
From image approx 22,5 m height
Follow up on 180922 by BDukes
DB Korean Po Hang Flight III: #1330 & #142
</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.egyptindependent.com/egypts-naval-forces-receive-south-korean-corvette-shabab-misr/ transferred
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Shabab_Misr_Pohang-class_corvette.jpg image
http://kappa352.egloos.com/1268312 images
http://old-navypedia.org/ships/egypt/eg_es_shahab_misr.htm data, upd 2019
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pohang-class_corvette data, Kor
https://www.seaforces.org/marint/Republic-Korea-Navy/Corvette/Pohang-class.htm data, Kor
</evidence>
with regards Gert-Jan

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RE: Stickied thread for minor database issues? - 9/24/2021 8:54:09 PM   
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<type>Correction</type>
<summary> Minor correction to DB3K Weapon_151 Apex C (RT-24R). Database lists length of missile as 4.8 meters. Actual length is 4.5 meters
</detail>
<evidence>
https://en.missilery.info/missile/r24
Jane's Air-Launched Weapons, "AA-7 'Apex' (R-23, R-24)" 09 November 2001;

</evidence>

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/25/2021 10:59:06 AM   
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hi,

is it possible update/add these platforms to DB3K

*China's J-16D Electronic Attack/Electronic Warfare aircraft
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/42511/chinas-j-16d-electronic-attack-jet-seen-sporting-jamming-pods-for-the-first-time

**Canada’s CF-18A/B+ Hornet fighter jets
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/42501/its-official-canadas-cf-18-hornet-fighters-are-set-to-get-new-advanced-radars
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/34139/canada-is-looking-to-give-its-cf-18-hornets-new-radars-aim-9x-sidewinders-and-more

thanks in advance

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/25/2021 11:47:23 AM   
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<type>UPDATE</type>
<summary> #5186 XQ-58 Valkyrie hypothetical unit is rail launched in stead of taking off from a runway, </summary>
<detail> Currently the XQ-58 needs 451/900m of runway and lands with a parachute.<detail>
<evidence>
https://www.greateroklahomacity.com/clientuploads/ppt/Kratos_Overview_OKC.pdf
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kratos_XQ-58_Valkyrie
https://defence-blog.com/kratos-unveils-xq-58a-valkyrie-unmanned-aircraft-at-mspo-2021/
https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/afrl-low-cost-attritable-aircraft-technology-lcaat-program.27189/page-4
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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/25/2021 1:49:25 PM   
Parel803

 

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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>DB3K489, Shanghai II class, 793, Patrol Boat (PC) Fast Attack Craft (PB), Egyptian Navy</summary>
<detail>4 units in class, China build, launched 1975, transferred in 1984, refitted in 1998
JFS 13/14:
Displacemten standard 115, full 133, Length 38.8, Beam 5.4, Draft 1.7
Max speed 30, Range 700 at 16.5, crew 34
Machinery 2 type L12-180 diesels, 2400 hp(m)(1.76MW) forward, 2 L12-180Z diesels 1820 hp(m)(1.34MW) aft, 4 shafts
Sensors 1x Decca nav-I band, IFF Highpole, ESM Thompson-CSF radar warner
Weapons 4x Chinese 37mm/63 2twin), 2x 23mm (1 twin) locally built to fit on the 25mm mounting
Mines rails can be fitted for 10 mines
WFT 20/22:
States all 4 active
Machinery DM, MaxSPeed 30, Crew 25
Displacement empty 155, full 1120
Give unknown type air/surface search radar & unknown nav radar
...</detail>
<evidence>
https://trid.trb.org/view/429500 transfer innfo, state 2xIII instead of 4xII
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/china/shanghai-pc-specs.htm general data on class
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/china/shanghai-pc.htm Tekst on class
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/china/shanghai-pc-pics.htm Images CHN class and silhouette
https://military.wikia.org/wiki/Type_062-class_gunboat general data on class
</evidence>
with regards Gert-Jan

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/25/2021 1:56:52 PM   
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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>Please add hypothetical unit AFRL's C-130 transportable Multi-Domain Artillery Cannon #MDAC for Air-Base defense</summary>
<detail> The AFRL's C-130 transportable Multi-Domain Artillery Cannon #MDAC for Air-Base defense. The US Air Force, in partnership with other DOD agencies has already demonstrated the ability to defeat Cruise Missile threats utilizing M-109 Paladin canon artillery. #ASC21
Latest evidence link has also ranges and rate-of-fires
</detail>
<evidence>
https://twitter.com/WILLROP3R/status/1440842597505716234
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpEoqOBf9uo
https://twitter.com/MIL_STD/status/1440041004283744258
https://twitter.com/MIL_STD/status/1440107486816743427
https://thedeaddistrict.blogspot.com/2020/09/joint-base-andrews-md.html
</evidence>




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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/25/2021 5:09:51 PM   
Parel803

 

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<type>ADD</type>
<summary>DB3K489, Daqhiliya (Type 45) class, 507, Minesweeper Ocean (MSO), Egyptian Navy</summary>
<detail>Russian build, 1954-1957 export, 3 units still in class
FJS13/14:
Discplacement full 589, Length 59 Beam 8.4, Draft 2.1
Max speed 15, Range 3000 at 10, crew 65
Machinery 2 Kolomna Type 9-D-8 diesels 2000hp(m)(1.47MW), 2 shafts
Guns 4-37 mm/63 (2 twin), 8-12.7 mm MG (4 twin)
Mines Can carry 20
Sensor 2 x Don-2 I-Nav radar, Stag Ear Hull-mounted sonar,
- In DB is Russian MT T-43 [pr.254] #945
- WFT states 4 units still active of the 7 exported by Russia
</detail>
<evidence>
http://russianships.info/eng/warships/project_254.htm general dat on class & line drawings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T43-class_minesweeper general dat on class
</evidence>
with regards Gert-Jan

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/25/2021 5:58:57 PM   
Parel803

 

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<type>ADD/UPDATE</type>
<summary>DB3K489, 23 of July (Tiger / Type 148) class, 601, Fast Attack Craft - Missile (PGGF), Egyptian Navy</summary>
<detail>
5 units in Class, German build 1973, Transferred 2002
navalanalyses internet:
Displacement 265 full, Length 47, Beam 7, Draft 2.7
Max Speed 36, Crew 30, Range 570 at 36 & 1600 at 15
OtoMelaraCompatto 3in (76mm/62cal), Bofors 40mm/L70 on Type 520R mount, 2x MM38, WegmannWolke/Hot Dog decoy launcher, Octopus jammer ECM
CSEE Panda optical FC, SMA3RM20 nav radar, Thomson-CSF TS3203 CastorII, ?raytheon navradar, Thomson TRS3050 Triton 2D AS/SS, Octopus DF ESM
JFS13/14:
Displacemnt 238 standard &269 full, Length 47, Beam 7, Draft 2.7
Max speed 36, Range 570 at 30 & 1600 at 15
Machinery 4 MTU MD 16V 538 TB90 diesels 12000hp(m) (8.82)sustained, 4 shafts
Mines laying capable
Hull as combattante II
Sensors/weapons as navalanalyses
WFT20-22 states 5 units still active
German Tiger, Type 148, in DB as #387, #567, #1387
</detail>
<evidence>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ships_of_the_Egyptian_Navy
https://www.navalanalyses.com/2014/09/s148-class-of-hellenic-navy-and-chilean.html data & image on all in class
https://warsearcher.com/shipsearcher/egyptian-navy-surface-units-current-and-retired-under-construction/egyptian-navy-corvettes-sloops-and-patrol-vessels/ image
</evidence>
with regards Gert-Jan

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/25/2021 6:20:41 PM   
14yellow14

 

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<type>Update</type>
<summary>Add F-35B USMC (Block 3F) GBU-49 loadout </summary>


<detail>
U.S. Marines with Marine Fighter Attack Squadron (VMFA) 211 remove the chalks and chains on an F-35B Lightning II armed with a Guided Bomb Unit 49 (GBU-49) in the Western Pacific Ocean on September 12th, 2021. The GBU-49 is a laser and GPS-guided bomb effective across various conditions and against many types of moving or stationary targets.


</detail>

<evidence> https://www.navy.mil/Resources/Photo-Gallery/igphoto/2002858701/
https://media.defense.gov/2021/Sep/21/2002858701/1088/820/0/210912-M-MS099-138.JPG

<evidence>

Thanks!

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/26/2021 7:49:45 AM   
De Savage

 

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Could you please fix Gabriel V anti-surface missile. Range is too low. This missile is supposed to replace older Rb 15M Mk3 for Finnish Navy (#20) and even older missile have 200+ km range (or at least 100 km). Several Finnish navy sources say that new missile have LONGER range than older Rb 15M Mk3 missile.

<type>Correction/Update</type>
<summary> #3648 - Gabriel V Range is too short </summary>
<detail> Several sources estimates range for this weapon 150-200 km. Current range in CMO is only 28 nm (51 km). Probably real range is even much longer, this missile uses jet engine and is more like a cruise missile.
</detail>
<evidence>
https://merivoimat.fi/-/merivoimien-uusi-pintatorjuntaohjus-gabriel-5
Official Finnish Navy website
Range (fin. kantama): More than 200 km

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_(missile)
Range 200 km / 120 mi

https://www.edrmagazine.eu/finnish-navy-unveils-first-details-of-its-future-gabriel-v-anti-ship-missile

According to information and renderings released by the Finnish Navy on 13 December, the missile airframe resembles the Boeing Harpoon configuration with a rear underbelly fixed air intake with middle-airframe and rear foldable fins, together with smaller fixed rear fins. With a 5.5 meters length and a 1,250 kg weight, according to released information, the Gabriel V features a turbojet engine allowing subsonic speed and fuel tanks providing a range in excess of 200 km

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2019/12/finnish-navy-lifts-veil-on-its-future-anti-ship-missile-the-gabriel-v/

https://corporalfrisk.com/2018/07/16/a-further-look-at-the-gabriel-5/
One interesting point that stands out in the cutaway, however, is the internal component layout compared to the non-ER versions of the Harpoon. Crucially, the warhead occupies more or less exactly the same space as the 500 lbs (227 kg) warhead of the Harpoon. If the cutaway is correct, this would indicate that Finland has decided against downsizing the warhead compared to the current MTO 85M. The size of the fuel tank would also likely indicate a range in the 150 km class rather than the 200+ km ranges of the RBS 15 Gungnir, NSM, and Harpoon Block II+ ER. Crucially, as 150 km is more than “about 100 km“, this does not contradict that the PTO 2020 has longer range than the MTO 85M, one of the few capability details revealed by the Finnish authorities (this being confirmed by captain Valkamo).
</evidence>



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Post #: 7106
RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/26/2021 9:43:20 AM   
Parel803

 

Posts: 475
Joined: 10/10/2019
From: Netherlands
Status: online
<type>ADD</type>
<summary>DB3K489, Safaga (Swiftships) class, RSV 1, Route Survey Vessel (MSI), Egyptian Navy</summary>
<detail>
2 units in class, Build by swiftships USA, commissioned in 1994
JFS13/14:
Displacement 168 full, Length 27.4, Beam 7.6, Draft 2.4
Max speed 12, Range 1500 at 10, Crew 16
Machinery 2 MMTU 12V 183 TA61 diesels 928 hp(m)(682 kW), 2 shafts
Guns 1x 12.7 mm MG, Radar Furuno I-band nav, Sonar EG & G side scan (active, high freq)
WFT20/22: states both units active
Internet old-navypedia: GRP Hull, Furuno FR-2020 radar, Can also tow 606A-602 or 606A-604 sonar array
</detail>
<evidence>
http://old-navypedia.org/ships/egypt/eg_ms_safaga94.htm data on class + 1 Image
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/egypt/navy-equipment.htm list egyptian naval ships
</evidence>
with regards Gert-Jan

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/26/2021 10:27:03 AM   
Parel803

 

Posts: 475
Joined: 10/10/2019
From: Netherlands
Status: online
<type>ADD</type>
<summary>DB3K489, Dat Assawari (Swiftships type) class , 542 (ex-CMH1), Coastal Minehunters (MHC), Egptian Navy</summary>
<detail>
3 units in Class, Commissioned in 1997, Build by Swiftships USA
JFS13/14:
Displacement full 206, Length 33.8, Beam 8.2, Draft 2.3
Max speed 12.4, Range 2000 at 10, crew 25
Machinery 2 MTU 12V 183 TE61 diesels; 1068 hp(m) (786 kW); s schottel steerable props
Guns 2 - 12.7 MG, Radar Sperry I-band Nav, Sonanrs Thoray/Thomson Sintra TSM 2022 hullmounted
A side scan sonar body and Graymarine Pluto ROV can be streamed from a deck crane
GRP Hull
WFT20/22: states 3 units active
old-navpedio, internet: MCM system Ibis V with 2 Pluto underwater vehicles
...</detail>
<evidence>
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/egypt/navy-equipment.htm unit in Egyptian navy
http://old-navypedia.org/ships/egypt/eg_ms_dat_assawari.htm Data on class
https://navypedia.org/ships/egypt/eg_ms_dat_assawari.htm Data & image of an unit
https://twitter.com/mansourtalk/status/1229451753839583232 Image Burullus
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=3042704 Image Burullus
</evidence>
with regards Gert-Jan

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/26/2021 1:06:12 PM   
KLAB


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quote:

ORIGINAL: De Savage

Could you please fix Gabriel V anti-surface missile. Range is too low. This missile is supposed to replace older Rb 15M Mk3 for Finnish Navy (#20) and even older missile have 200+ km range (or at least 100 km). Several Finnish navy sources say that new missile have LONGER range than older Rb 15M Mk3 missile.

<type>Correction/Update</type>
<summary> #3648 - Gabriel V Range is too short </summary>
<detail> Several sources estimates range for this weapon 150-200 km. Current range in CMO is only 28 nm (51 km). Probably real range is even much longer, this missile uses jet engine and is more like a cruise missile.
</detail>
<evidence>
https://merivoimat.fi/-/merivoimien-uusi-pintatorjuntaohjus-gabriel-5
Official Finnish Navy website
Range (fin. kantama): More than 200 km

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_(missile)
Range 200 km / 120 mi

https://www.edrmagazine.eu/finnish-navy-unveils-first-details-of-its-future-gabriel-v-anti-ship-missile

According to information and renderings released by the Finnish Navy on 13 December, the missile airframe resembles the Boeing Harpoon configuration with a rear underbelly fixed air intake with middle-airframe and rear foldable fins, together with smaller fixed rear fins. With a 5.5 meters length and a 1,250 kg weight, according to released information, the Gabriel V features a turbojet engine allowing subsonic speed and fuel tanks providing a range in excess of 200 km

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2019/12/finnish-navy-lifts-veil-on-its-future-anti-ship-missile-the-gabriel-v/

https://corporalfrisk.com/2018/07/16/a-further-look-at-the-gabriel-5/
One interesting point that stands out in the cutaway, however, is the internal component layout compared to the non-ER versions of the Harpoon. Crucially, the warhead occupies more or less exactly the same space as the 500 lbs (227 kg) warhead of the Harpoon. If the cutaway is correct, this would indicate that Finland has decided against downsizing the warhead compared to the current MTO 85M. The size of the fuel tank would also likely indicate a range in the 150 km class rather than the 200+ km ranges of the RBS 15 Gungnir, NSM, and Harpoon Block II+ ER. Crucially, as 150 km is more than “about 100 km“, this does not contradict that the PTO 2020 has longer range than the MTO 85M, one of the few capability details revealed by the Finnish authorities (this being confirmed by captain Valkamo).
</evidence>




Gabriel V has been requested for amendment previously but the links and logic are still valid.
Just to add my tuppence worth.
K
quote:

ORIGINAL: KLAB

I took the liberty of attaching a link ref Gabriel V.
The fact it won in competitions against big hitters like the NSM and RBS-15 Mk3 both of which are 200km class weapons with land attack potential is a good indicator that Gabriel V is in the same ballpark.
Cheers for considering
K
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2019/12/finnish-navy-lifts-veil-on-its-future-anti-ship-missile-the-gabriel-vquote]
ORIGINAL: Anzu

Thank you for adding the #3186 Gabriel V for the Finnish Hamina-class FAC. There seems however to be some wrong info on both the loadout (which seems to be a direct copy of the Israeli Sa'ar 72).

The loadout should, according to open sources, be:

Sensors/EW
1 x Kongsberg ST2400 VDS
1 x CEROS 200 Tracker (9LV CMS Mk.4), like on the RCN Halifax-class #1898
1 x TRS-3D Baseline D

-4 x Gabriel V (which also should have 200+ NM (More likely 200km?)range, not 28 NM, even if there is not very much open source info about that)
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2019/12/finnish-navy-lifts-veil-on-its-future-anti-ship-missile-the-gabriel-v
-BAe Bofors 40 mm Mk 4 with 3P-ammo
-2 x Tp451 (#1595), to be upgraded to the SAAB Lightweight Torpedo (Tp 47) by 2023
-8 x Umkhonto Mk.2 (#2770)
-SAAB Trackfire RWS with 40 mm HK GMG
-2 x 12,7/50 MG
-2 x MASS


Not allowed to post links, but add world wide web at the start:
navalnews. com/naval-news/2019/12/finnish-navy-lifts-veil-on-its-future-anti-ship-missile-the-gabriel-v/
baesystems. com/en/product/40mk4-naval-gun
kongsberg. com/maritime/about-us/news-and-media/news-archive/2018/finnish-defence-forces-choose-kongsberg-naval-sonars-for-sq2000-mid-life/




Gabriel V 200+ km you know it makes sense.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 9/26/2021 3:29:04 PM   
MaxDemian

 

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I think it is about time that the Chinese destroyer classes 052D and 055 receive quad-packed short/medium range SAMs.

Latest photos from the Zhuhai expo show that the PRC offer an export VLS with quad-packed FM-3000N missiles for export. It is safe to assume that they already have this capability on their in-service ships.



Based on what I could gather, the baseline FM-3000 has a range of 30km against aircraft and 20km against missiles.

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