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I of the Enemy Gets 9 / 10 - 3/25/2005 4:31:35 PM   
JosephL

 

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Status: offline 		I understand there are some war-gamers out there who will never like RTS games and there are some RTS fans that are skeptical that I of the Enemy is worth playing:

However, I seriously believe that those who purchase this game are in for a surprise treat as they wind their way through the plot.

Game Tunnel agrees with me: They just gave I of the Enemy 9/10, with a perfect 10/10 in "sound" for the work in cutscenes.

Read it yourself here:

http://www.gametunnel.com/html/reviews-202.html

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RE: I of the Enemy Gets 9 / 10 - 3/25/2005 5:05:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		No knock to the game... but it is helpful to remember that Game Tunnel only reviews games from independent developers and as such is a bit biased (leaning favorably toward their audience, which is normal and understandable). I can't comment on the entire game, but I for one am glad I played through the free version before making a decision. See for yourself!

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RE: I of the Enemy Gets 9 / 10 - 3/25/2005 5:17:36 PM   
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I like the demo and I plan to get the full version of the
game. I hope in the coming weeks people will take the time an
download the demo. The overall feel of the game reminds me of
the classic RTS games like Dune and C&C ... I prefer RTS
games over FPS .. except if iD Software stuff Doom .Quake ..
stuff from them..

The people that review games need to step back from the eye
candy and review the game on a fun factor and stuff like that
IMO ...

RTS ... Games ... RULE ...!!! I give it a score of
8 stars out on 10 stars ...

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RE: I of the Enemy Gets 9 / 10 - 3/25/2005 6:32:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mlmckeown


RTS ... Games ... RULE ...!!! I give it a score of
8 stars out on 10 stars ...


Though your in the majority, I think you will find many here who would disagree with that remark. RTS for me = Confusion,Chaos.

Turn based/wego offers a more structured way of gaming which aprat from two exceptions (Close Combat,HTTR) makes for a far deeper game experience.

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RE: I of the Enemy Gets 9 / 10 - 3/25/2005 9:03:36 PM   
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A lot has changed in both the Turn Base and the Real Time world. Take a look a lot has changed.

David

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RE: I of the Enemy Gets 9 / 10 - 3/26/2005 1:26:18 AM   
JosephL

 

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Status: offline 		In the end we certainly won't twist your arm to buy it :-) Some people like RTSs, some people think they are totally confusing. I think David is right, they have changed a great deal since the Warcraft 2 days...

Worry not, Matrix has PLENTY of turn based thinker-strategy games on the way :-)

I like the idea of adding some variety to the Matrix Games selection... I think you'll see that over the coming year, but its important to know we are not turning our back on turn based games :-)

And Game Tunnel is biased only from the standpoint that it ONLY reviews independently developed games. It rates them relative to eachother, ergo, relative to other indie games IoE scores 9/10. Does that mean it is a AAA title like Warcraft 3? No, but compared to any other indie RTS titles (which there are a few) it is a cut above the rest.

After 6 reviews already IoE is averaging 79%: In my opinion, not bad at all :-)

-Joe

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RE: I of the Enemy Gets 9 / 10 - 3/26/2005 4:35:48 AM   
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RE: I of the Enemy Gets 9 / 10 - 3/26/2005 5:17:37 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: wodin

quote:

ORIGINAL: mlmckeown


RTS ... Games ... RULE ...!!! I give it a score of
8 stars out on 10 stars ...


Though your in the majority, I think you will find many here who would disagree with that remark. RTS for me = Confusion,Chaos.

Turn based/wego offers a more structured way of gaming which aprat from two exceptions (Close Combat,HTTR) makes for a far deeper game experience.
ROFL...Wodin, you are 100% correct, if it doesn't have a hex or an end turn button what is it?
On the other hand, Dawn Of War was one of the most thrilling, visceral games i had the pleasure of playing recently. I have to admit though, it's all about the graphics if i put a RTS on my rig.


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RE: I of the Enemy Gets 9 / 10 - 3/26/2005 7:03:49 PM   
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Don't get me wrong, I like turn based games. I'm just
alittle bit picker with them. One of my favorites is the
X-Com Defense game ....

I'm straying away ... from my old games ... and going
with some newer ones. I still play TA ... AOE ... EA ..
Also, here is a old but still good game Enemy Nations ...
made by WindWard Studios ... You can D/L that for FREE ..
now. The only issue it was designed for Win2K and Win9x
systems. WinXP has a few issues with it ... But still a
very good game ...

I'm looking forward to getting my hands the full version
of this game ....

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RE: I of the Enemy Gets 9 / 10 - 8/25/2005 5:28:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		Who the hell is "gametunnel" Man you are digging deep to get a good review of this game. lol

Let's see what Gamespy, Gamespot, & Gamerankings gives it; the (3) most popular review sites on the internet.

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RE: I of the Enemy Gets 9 / 10 - 8/25/2005 9:35:37 PM   
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Who the hell is "gametunnel" Man you are digging deep to get a good review of this game. lol

Let's see what Gamespy, Gamespot, & Gamerankings gives it; the (3) most popular review sites on the internet.



I've yet to see a bad review of it. Where it will suffer at the sites you mention is for the graphics.. which are in all honesty circa 1998, and the "reader reviews" will slag it off for that reason, too. Virtually all the turn-based games I play suffered the same fate, or would have done if those sites had even reviewed them.

Gumetunnel is is an indie games sites and IotE is an indie game. There's no getting around that, and Matrix havn't tried. It may not be as pretty as "Battle for Middle Earth" and similar games, but its a lot cheaper, gives a much bigger challenge and is much more strategy and less click-like-crazy.

Those who enjoy challenging RTS games and who can live without the eye-candy will get a lot out of the game, those who don't, won't.

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RE: I of the Enemy Gets 9 / 10 - 8/25/2005 9:50:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Gametunnel is the largest indie-only review site on the internet and has been featured on G4TV and gets slashdotted about 3 times a year for their special awards (including "Indie Game of the Year, of which IoE ranked in the top 10).

-Joe

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RE: I of the Enemy Gets 9 / 10 - 8/26/2005 9:29:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ravinhood

Who the hell is "gametunnel" Man you are digging deep to get a good review of this game. lol

Let's see what Gamespy, Gamespot, & Gamerankings gives it; the (3) most popular review sites on the internet.


Cranky again ?

Read about "Gametunnel" before you try to come up with comments about it.

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RE: I of the Enemy Gets 9 / 10 - 8/26/2005 11:06:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Post all of the reviews instead of the unheard of sites that just sugar coat your games and I won't have to read about some unheard of site. Where's your posting of the Gamespy review of Gary Grigsby's War at War eh? You know the one that gave it 2-1/2 stars 50% hrmmm?

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RE: I of the Enemy Gets 9 / 10 - 8/26/2005 11:35:46 PM   
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Post all of the reviews instead of the unheard of sites that just sugar coat your games and I won't have to read about some unheard of site. Where's your posting of the Gamespy review of Gary Grigsby's War at War eh? You know the one that gave it 2-1/2 stars 50% hrmmm?



Erm... I may be missing something, but aren't Matrix here to sell their games, no act as some sort of review collection site for them? Of course they will draw attention to good reviews, and ignore not so good ones - just the same as every other publisher! If you want the full spectrum of opinion, use Google, the same as everybody else.

As to IotE, as far as I can see neither Gamespy or Gamespot have reviewed it. All Gamesrankings does is collect other people's scores. And quite why you think so sites are so much more relevant than others I'm not sure.

I did find reviews at Gamershell

"For an independent game this is a definite winner. It could be better, but it offers an old familiarity with a new twist. Hopefully Enemy Technology will learn from their minor mistakes and will continue to create even better games in the future. It’s always nice to see what the independent gaming community is up to because they usually offer something fresh.


Graphics: 6.5
Sound : 6.5
Gameplay : 7.5
Multiplayer : 7.5
Overall : 6.8"


and Strategyinformer


"For a budget title, Enemy Technology gives you plenty of bite for your buck, even with the less than stellar game maps. The beautiful cut scenes, as well as the absorbing game play and story lines more than make up for any of the game's possible short comings. If you want a fun, low cost Sci Fi RTS, by all means, pick up I of the Enemy. 7.7 "

You don't even need reviews for this game, you can download a "demo" that is actually a full game in itself from the developers site and see what YOU think!







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RE: I of the Enemy Gets 9 / 10 - 8/27/2005 5:55:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ravinhood
Post all of the reviews instead of the unheard of sites that just sugar coat your games and I won't have to read about some unheard of site. Where's your posting of the Gamespy review of Gary Grigsby's War at War eh? You know the one that gave it 2-1/2 stars 50% hrmmm?


Why would we emphasize a review we disagree with, and which other reviews disagree with?

On top of that, do you know how often major game sites review smaller "indie"-style games? It happens, but it's a lot less often than specialty sites like GameTunnel. If we have a good review, we'll post it, regardless of whether the reviewer is one of the top three major game sites/mags or not. I don't see why you would expect something different.

Regards,

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RE: I of the Enemy Gets 9 / 10 - 8/27/2005 5:56:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Hertston
You don't even need reviews for this game, you can download a "demo" that is actually a full game in itself from the developers site and see what YOU think!


Thanks Hertston, well put. It's really not hard to find out that major sites don't review many smaller games and that there are other good reviews out there about I of the Enemy.

Regards,

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RE: ravinhood - 8/29/2005 7:26:32 PM   
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RE: I of the Enemy Gets 9 / 10 - 9/5/2005 10:46:28 PM   
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... you can download a "demo" that is actually a full game in itself from the developers site and see what YOU think!


Huh ? what do you mean ? is this a demo or a fulll game for free ? (kind of promotion action)

I will try it. I of course prefer turn based hex based games but Ihave nothing against to try a good RTS (even if I never played one in the past appart the settlers series years ago)

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RE: I of the Enemy Gets 9 / 10 - 9/6/2005 1:38:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		Its 5 mission "full" game that gives you the back story of I of the Enemy.

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RE: I of the Enemy Gets 9 / 10 - 9/6/2005 2:24:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		ok, after a quick try, I didn't see why/where this game is fundamentaly different/better than warcraft-type and other "click fests" real time games ... ??? it seems just to be a ordinary RTS game to me. Maybe I missed something but in this case, I'm sure plenty of people will explain me why I am wrong.

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RE: I of the Enemy Gets 9 / 10 - 9/6/2005 7:17:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		I love RTS games...sure some of the bad ones are just clickfest, but some of the bad turn based games are just....bad as well!!

Keep it up and kudos to all!

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RE: I of the Enemy Gets 9 / 10 - 9/8/2005 8:12:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		Better? Well...I'll leave that up to you, but I think if you play all of IOE: Ril'Cerat, it should become apparent that the game doesn't play at all like Starcraft. The artillery alone should force a massive adaptation of tactics which should more closely mirror the way the modern combined arms philosophy really operates on the battlefield. At least, that was the intent. Let me know what you think after you finish Ril'Cerat.

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