From: Denver, CO USA
I am still debating whether to get into SOE or not. I have been reading the rules and checking out the setup, and it looks great, but it looks like a complete time hog. What I like is it is based quite a bit on the Europa series of games, which were the last boardgames I ever bought and played, and my favorites ever. I really like the added strategic level things, especially production ala War in Europe from SPI, which I loved from them. Have you played SOE much yet? If so, how do the turns play out, including how quicly? Maybe this will knock me off the fence and make me get ADC myself.
Thanks for whatever info you can give us.
Originally posted by StratMan:
Yeah RickyB is correct, ADC2 has no AI and does not implement any rules, that is upto the players. The rules are a little complex at first but I believe the learning curve is more than acceptable.
ADC2 has full replay, and it is possible and advisible to include a short written report with most moves/combats so the enemy knows exactly how you came accross the results, it is simple enough and sounds a lot more time comsuming than it really is. Also ADC2 has its own dice routines which are used during play and are recorded every time action occurs, which helps to eliminate cheating. But what's the point of cheating anyhow????
Although the rules are in-depth they are not beyond comprehension and do not take to long to learn. I would love a computer game of this magnetude but according to 3by2games, although they have dicussed the prospect of designing such a game, they have no plans to actually start work on it in the forseeable future, which is a real shame. So in the mean time if anyone is interested in playing WWII in Europe, this is the only simulation available at present, and it is good. As RickyB says "it is definitely the mother of all wargames".
You will need to purchase ADC2, I did not buy mine direct from HPS, I e-mailed them and asked where in England I could buy it. Cannot find the invoice at the moment, but I received it just three days after ordering.
Check out ADC2 anyway as there are hundreds and hundreds of free modules ready for DL and hundreds more available for a price. Most excellant man.
There has to be some grodnards here at Matrix, surely????