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Newbie - 6/11/2019 12:32:46 PM   
wodin


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Any advice on where to start. Was thinking Guadalcanal.

Will I learn anything watching AI vs AI?

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RE: Newbie - 6/11/2019 12:47:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: wodin

Any advice on where to start. Was thinking Guadalcanal.

Will I learn anything watching AI vs AI?

Thanks


Coral Sea, both sides, then Guadalcanal, both sides.

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RE: Newbie - 6/11/2019 12:51:05 PM   
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Well, you can do what I did.

1. Make a thread proclaiming your ignorance of the game and ask questions to a bunch of old curmudgeons that might (might!) begrudgingly give an answer: LINK HERE

2. Jump right into a Guadalcanal PBEM match against another newish opponent. My first was also a noob from Germany (who even wrote an AAR on some german forum for the game). We had quite a good game! I think the best way to learn concepts of the game to the core is through visceral action. Beyond that, there are many esoteric aspects that require you to read the manual or search the forums here, but those questions will come up as you play and then you can consult here.

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RE: Newbie - 6/11/2019 12:51:58 PM   
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You won't learn much if anything from watching AI vs. AI. If you're fairly well read about the Pacific War, you'll have the background information needed to begin playing. You'll know the relative strength of the two sides at a particular place and time, you'll know generally how to employ carriers and merchantmen and patrols, and you'll know which side has the initiative and the larger force, etc. That gives the game the context necessary to play. Learning the rules and intricacies of the game are simply a matter of playing and playing and playing, and reading and reading and reading the forum, having a blast and gradually getting better and better. Have fun!

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RE: Newbie - 6/11/2019 1:05:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Anachro

Well, you can do what I did.

1. Make a thread proclaiming your ignorance of the game and ask questions to a bunch of old curmudgeons that might (might!) begrudgingly give an answer: LINK HERE

2. Jump right into a Guadalcanal PBEM match against another newish opponent. My first was also a noob from Germany (who even wrote an AAR on some german forum for the game). We had quite a good game! I think the best way to learn concepts of the game to the core is through visceral action. Beyond that, there are many esoteric aspects that require you to read the manual or search the forums here, but those questions will come up as you play and then you can consult here.


Hey, who you calling "OLD".....GP

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RE: Newbie - 6/11/2019 3:18:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: wodin

Any advice on where to start. Was thinking Guadalcanal.

Start with 1000 Miles War, there are like 2 Bases, and 3 Air Units. Then try Coral Sea, for quick Carrier engagement. Guadalcanal is quite unforgiving for Japanese Player, and walk in the park as Allies vs AI.

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Will I learn anything watching AI vs AI?


Not really, you have to see how to issue orders. Watching AI you will only see turn execution.

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RE: Newbie - 6/11/2019 3:27:09 PM   
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There is no hiding from scen001's first turn...

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RE: Newbie - 6/11/2019 5:25:03 PM   
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Coral Sea, both sides
then
Aleutians, both sides
then
full campaign, but limit yourself to one month of play, then restart and play two months, etc

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RE: Newbie - 6/11/2019 10:22:29 PM   
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Playing AI vs AI is just watching one cheater outcheat another. Do you have anything to learn from that?

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RE: Newbie - 6/12/2019 2:31:02 AM   
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I’m guessing by the 5 stars and what you have played that you should jump straight to an AI Campaign game. As another commentator mentioned, if you are well read and well played you shouldn’t be timid. I started with campaign and have never played lesser scenarios.

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RE: Newbie - 6/12/2019 5:30:41 AM   
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I’m guessing by the 5 stars and what you have played that you should jump straight to an AI Campaign game. As another commentator mentioned, if you are well read and well played you shouldn’t be timid. I started with campaign and have never played lesser scenarios.

Yes, the Grand Campaign is the big enchilada, but waiting years to get through the experience can sometimes feel like a grind. I interrupted one campaign game to play the Marianas scenario and had a blast! Lots of action, the whole gamut of Carrier, Surface Combat, ASW and Amphib warfare + seriously complex logistics.
Everyone has their own preferences in play and in learning to play!

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RE: Newbie - 6/12/2019 1:44:10 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: wodin

Any advice on where to start. Was thinking Guadalcanal.

Will I learn anything watching AI vs AI?

Thanks


Welcome wodin!

For a starting position, I recommend:

1. Read the manual. Yeah, it's outdated, but it's helpful background.
2. Don't be a stranger on these boards. Stalk, prowl and follow other 'noob' threads and find a good early war AAR or two to follow. Ask your questions. Don't be embarrassed.
3. Be patient. Don't try to reinvent the wheel or become ze experten in a week. Or a month. Or a year. You'll burn out. Guaranteed. Start at your pace-slowly-and start to digest this beast.
4. Start with the Allies vs. Japanese AI on a small campaign. Coral Sea is fast and furious. Guadalcanal gives you more thingies to play with and plot. "1000-mile war" is also a good second scenario.
5. Try the Japanese in a scenario vs. the Allied AI. Same scenario choices.
6. Look at a December 8 start CG scenario vs. the Japanese AI. Don't handcuff yourself to *finishing* it, but play a few months into it to get a feel for early war Allied issues. Then start over.

This oughta keep you going for a few months mate. Again, welcome. And-of course-my sympathies.

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