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What happened to Vassal? - 3/22/2019 10:15:25 AM   
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You know I was looking around at some board wargames to start up my habit again, then I noticed some of my favorites had Vassal modules.

I came across a thread in another forum that Vassal had been acquired by Matrix. (this was news to me)

But it seems to have disappeared from view on the Matrix forums.

I'm actually not too trusting once I found out Vassal was written in Java. But there was some indication it was being ported to C++ as version 4.

What happened? Any news or is this just a dead topic?
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RE: What happened to Vassal? - 3/22/2019 11:07:22 AM   
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hmm, I had thought that VASSAL was open-source and thus couldn't be "accquired" by anyone, but I could be mistaken about that. In any event, I haven't heard much about VASSAL in recent years.

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RE: What happened to Vassal? - 3/22/2019 11:14:52 AM   
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This is the internal link - I first read it outside of Matrix Games.

http://www.matrixgames.com/Forums/tm.asp?m=910870

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RE: What happened to Vassal? - 3/22/2019 1:30:06 PM   
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Vassal is still around http://www.vassalengine.org/

It appears to me someone had a pie in the sky idea to make a buck off an open source application that fell through. Happens all the time.

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RE: What happened to Vassal? - 3/22/2019 4:00:11 PM   
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Yeah by looking at the dates it appears a dead issue. I don't seem to find much on a Vassal port to C++ but it does not appear dead.

I was looking to use Vassal but forgot it was Java which makes me nervous due to security issues, as I'm not a computer guru.

But there are some options that may work for me.

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RE: What happened to Vassal? - 3/23/2019 12:17:40 AM   
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Vassal is alive and kicking. In a big way. Especially for ASL players. I am working on a module for GMT's A World At War. And playing it. Fab game.

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RE: What happened to Vassal? - 3/25/2019 2:35:24 PM   
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This was all before we became involved but it didn't really work out and Matrix games is not involved in Vassal in any way now.

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RE: What happened to Vassal? - 3/25/2019 3:23:03 PM   
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That's too bad. On the surface it looks like a great idea. All of those old board games being brought back to life would have been nice.

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RE: What happened to Vassal? - 3/25/2019 8:52:34 PM   
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Thanks for the info Iain.

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RE: What happened to Vassal? - 3/25/2019 9:00:21 PM   
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Every day thousands of people use vassal to play board games via the net. I really don't see any issue with it in it's current form.



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RE: What happened to Vassal? - 3/25/2019 11:04:51 PM   
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You don't find java a security issue? I'm interested but worried about security. I'm not a computer guru, so I tend to be cautious.

PS - I just bought my first board wargame since my collection was ruined in tropical storm Fay. It has a Vassal module, so I would like to try it but I just worry too much (maybe)
GMT - Next War, Taiwan.

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RE: What happened to Vassal? - 3/26/2019 12:19:25 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: larrybush

You don't find java a security issue? I'm interested but worried about security. I'm not a computer guru, so I tend to be cautious.


Been running stuff with Java for years and years. Never worried about it. Just keep it up to date. They'll let you know when an update is available.

I do worry about aliens getting into my head when I dream at night but so far the tin foil hat has prevented them from doing that.


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RE: What happened to Vassal? - 3/26/2019 12:40:24 AM   
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There is no bigger war board game (following wise) than ASL. Literally 10's of thousands of games are played via vassal every month. I would guess more ASL games are played via vassal than FTF.

If there were security issues with vassal then it would simply not be so popular.

There is always going to be security issues with any dabbling on the net. But I am not sure why you think vassal would be any more prone than any other form of on-line gaming.

You can minimalize the perceived risk by sicking to PBEM vassal if 'live' play scares you.

I have been using vassal for years against a multitude of opponents and I have never heard of anyone complaining about getting hacked due to using vassal.

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RE: What happened to Vassal? - 3/26/2019 10:20:46 AM   
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Well that's a good testimonial to hear from both of you!
Why I worry about it? Just due to some articles over the years about java.
I'll give it a try in that case. Thanks for the feedback.

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