From: Toronto Canada
Yes, failure to understand modern warfare is, indeed, a pervasive problem. Much of the problem stems from the perception that since a thing is more modern, it must be more better. Any military professional knows what that perception is worth. As to the relevance of "dogfighting" to modern military aircraft, I would refer you to the multiple Requests for Information, series DARPA-SN-17/18, particularly SN-18-08, 18-26, resulting from the experiences of USAF/IAF joint exercises (Red Flag, Blue Flag, Pitch Black, Cope India), wherein the Israeli IAF and, especially, the Indian IAF showed that judicious tactical innovation made WVR engagement not only possible, but also extremely deadly to high-value, stand-off, air assets, to the great consternation of USAF-ATTO.
The internet amateur war gaming community may not be talking about dogfighting anymore, but DoD, DARPA, USAF, USN, USMC sure as hell are.
This is very interesting information.
I am certainly no expert - an internet amateur - reading random samples of Jane's / Economist / BBC etc etc.
So please do not think this is a criticism.
However I would point out that the "entire purpose of these exercises" is to study 'close range combat' verses BVR (beyond visual range) combat and underlying strategic and tactical implications.
Further to test how / when / what Information Superiority is required to project force given jamming, counter jamming, sigint, BVR capability, line of sight helmet technology, etc. I do believe Information Superiority is a modern strategic concern.
My response - i.e.'minor exception to' in the original post is 'projecting concrete facts / scenerio outcome / identifying systemic strength or weakness of all future encounters based on a Pakistani - Indian incident in a minor border skirmish and applying the logic defacto to next generation capability gaps ala F35
Simply whether BVR or Close Combat is superior / necessary /inescapable - the results of this skirmish cannot be extrapolated defacto.
We learned this from Vietnam (as noted above), from Arab Israeli combats, from the Gulf War, from Koskova (spelling) etc.
< Message edited by Macclan5 -- 3/5/2019 12:21:36 PM >
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