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How about a game on WWII Naval Battles? - 12/20/2018 9:36:42 PM   
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I am a fan of the WEGO system and have been playing the Combat Mission series for the last 20 years. I am going to buy Desert War 40-42 because it uses the WEGO system. Two key advantages of having a computer wargame is fog of war and you can use the WEGO system where you don't know what orders your opponent has given and the turn is resolved simultaneously after both sides have input their orders.
I would like to see Matrix or Slitherine release a game on naval battles in World War II using the WEGO system and obviously fog of war. I would also like the option of playing it PBEM. Scenarios such as Midway, Coral Sea, the hunt for the Bismarck come to mind. I have HPSSIMS Midway but it is online play only and there are no graphics unless you consider "TF2" or the ship name as graphics.
I know about Carriers at War but given that it was released in 2007 I wouldn't think it is much different than HPSSIMS Midway.
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RE: How about a game on WWII Naval Battles? - 12/21/2018 8:51:44 AM   
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As an ex seaman myself that was in what was probably the last major naval engagemaent i to would like to sea a naval version as i love ships
As im British we have a great history of battles at sea so you can go back to the sail days as well
Theres a lot to choose from

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RE: How about a game on WWII Naval Battles? - 12/21/2018 9:49:50 AM   
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I am a fan of the WEGO system and have been playing the Combat Mission series for the last 20 years.

Wow, it is getting dangerously close to 20 years soon! (Where do you suppose THAT time went?!?)

But more to the point canuckgamer, why don't you just keep playing canuck? It'd save you money and the aggro of the search for a perfect game to replace canuck.



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RE: How about a game on WWII Naval Battles? - 12/21/2018 10:35:51 AM   
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Yes the "naval" gener in wargaming is some what forgotten to some extent, same as the "cold war" era. Although we recently have "Armored Brigade" as a cold war playthrough.

As a fan aswell for "maritime" warfare as it makes use of "combined arms", all I can suggest is that you have a look at CMANO (Command Modern Air Naval Operations), or in other words, what was once "Harppon3" for PC. Although it´s not WEGO, as it´s a RTS, you can spend ages playing CMANO and it´gets alot of updates too.

I like it so much, as I was once a big fan of Janes "Fleet Command", that I have even went for the real deal, which is it´s boardgame version. Iam currently waiting to recive a mint copy of "The Admiralty Trilogy" (Clash of Arms) "High Tide" miniatures rule set which uses the Harpoon 4 rules, in this case v4.1 of the rules.

The Admiralty Trilogy:
http://www.admiraltytrilogy.com/

BGG: High Tide...
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgameexpansion/11431/high-tide

Or you can go for the "Command at Sea" series which is focused on WWII...
https://www.wargamevault.com/browse/pub/7981/Admiralty-Trilogy-Group?src=browse7981

Another alternative for PC is "Juntland" by Storm Powered which is on sale today...
http://www.stormpowered.com/stormcloud/store/index.asp

It´s a old engine but still a good one. Can´t say how good is support and/or if it´s even active but do take in mind that you do need the Storm Powered app to run/launch the game and it does use a DRM system!

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RE: How about a game on WWII Naval Battles? - 12/21/2018 10:46:21 AM   
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Juntland YT video...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW0erNhyOeE&list=PLlUX4ALH7zTN308lrhZfqkZPEE1nhUq9m

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RE: How about a game on WWII Naval Battles? - 12/21/2018 10:58:11 AM   
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Although not WWII, can't forget about Rule the Waves and Steam & Iron series for WWI era...great games for ship combat....Rule the Waves II is in development which I believe will be WWII oriented.

https://store.nws-online.net/nawasi.html

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RE: How about a game on WWII Naval Battles? - 12/21/2018 4:10:29 PM   
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Bought all of my HPS games (roughly 10) through NWS. This is a site that the OP should check out for naval games.. NWS would discount $10 lower than HPS site in the past and presently looks to have a pretty good sale going on now.

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RE: How about a game on WWII Naval Battles? - 12/22/2018 12:06:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: canuckgamer

I am a fan of the WEGO system and have been playing the Combat Mission series for the last 20 years. I am going to buy Desert War 40-42 because it uses the WEGO system. Two key advantages of having a computer wargame is fog of war and you can use the WEGO system where you don't know what orders your opponent has given and the turn is resolved simultaneously after both sides have input their orders.
I would like to see Matrix or Slitherine release a game on naval battles in World War II using the WEGO system and obviously fog of war. I would also like the option of playing it PBEM. Scenarios such as Midway, Coral Sea, the hunt for the Bismarck come to mind. I have HPSSIMS Midway but it is online play only and there are no graphics unless you consider "TF2" or the ship name as graphics.
I know about Carriers at War but given that it was released in 2007 I wouldn't think it is much different than HPSSIMS Midway.


Have a look at this. https://store.steampowered.com/app/959200/Battleships_and_Carriers__WW2_Battleship_Game/

It might not be exactly what you are looking for but it's a WWII naval game and that species seems to be almost extinct.






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RE: How about a game on WWII Naval Battles? - 12/22/2018 6:38:18 AM   
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Well I don't know if you are looking for board games or software based on Naval Tactics in WWII. I did like the Great Naval Battles Volume III Fury in the Pacific, sadly gotta use DosBox for that one.

Now for the board games, there isn't really any good ones out there and mostly simply rules. Btw I am working on something, but not sure when I get it done, hopefully I get it out next year. I still have this expensive War in the Pacific 2nd here, map on the wall, etc. The rules for naval engagement is a joke. So I looked everywhere and bought a lot of rules and see how things are setup, they sucks! lol.

Anyway when I get it up and running, I will post it and see if any of you guys will be interesting.

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RE: How about a game on WWII Naval Battles? - 12/22/2018 7:04:21 AM   
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Naval battles would be nice

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RE: How about a game on WWII Naval Battles? - 12/22/2018 7:38:15 AM   
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http://killerfishgames.com/games/atlantic-fleet

Not WEGO, it's turn based by still a good game.

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RE: How about a game on WWII Naval Battles? - 12/22/2018 9:01:34 AM   
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Take a look over at subsim.com - in the forums there you can find info on some indie games and other ones in development - Naval Battles Simulator and Battleship Command are 2 noteworthy ones - Battleship Command is built built around playing as the Scharnhorst in a dynamic campaign it sounds .

Also Rule the Waves 2 is in development

but i nevertheless second your sentiments - more ww2 naval games, like a newer version of Great Naval Battles and Action Stations would be killer!

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RE: How about a game on WWII Naval Battles? - 12/22/2018 10:22:39 AM   
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The old Destroyer Command was good as well

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RE: How about a game on WWII Naval Battles? - 12/22/2018 11:10:13 AM   
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I would push around a fleet at Jutland or Trafalgar... And anything WW2.

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RE: How about a game on WWII Naval Battles? - 12/22/2018 11:29:17 AM   
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You must absolutely try "Atlantic Fleet", the engine is very good, innovative gameplay, fantastic graphics and low spec !

http://killerfishgames.com/games/atlantic-fleet


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RE: How about a game on WWII Naval Battles? - 12/22/2018 1:30:10 PM   
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thx :)

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RE: How about a game on WWII Naval Battles? - 12/22/2018 7:13:37 PM   
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If only Atlantic Fleet had multiplayer it would be an old AH Bismarck players dream game. Sadly only AI play :(

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RE: How about a game on WWII Naval Battles? - 12/23/2018 2:08:42 AM   
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Well, it's on sale for $5 on Steam.

I actually bought the Battleships & Carriers game. Thanks for the recommendation. Simple stuff, but a lot of content.

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RE: How about a game on WWII Naval Battles? - 12/23/2018 3:47:06 AM   
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Atlantic Fleet for PC is a great game, but you MUST! get the 'Surface Fleet Mod' which toned down the over the top Sub and Airstrike actions from the original game.

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RE: How about a game on WWII Naval Battles? - 12/23/2018 6:45:57 AM   
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There also Pacific Fleet too, haven't gotten it and not sure if worth picking up.

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RE: How about a game on WWII Naval Battles? - 12/23/2018 8:19:36 AM   
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Yeah I was about to mention that...

It is though from the "Victory at Sea" series. From what I red, they still need to clean up some bugs though. It came out on September of this year so it´s quite recent.

Victory at Sea Pacific:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/806950/Victory_At_Sea_Pacific/

Victory at Sea:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/298480/Victory_At_Sea/

You also have the classic "Task Force 1942"...
https://store.steampowered.com/app/329680/Task_Force_1942_Surface_Naval_Action_in_the_South_Pacific/

And "Battle Fleet 2" (had this on Android)...
https://store.steampowered.com/app/332490/Battle_Fleet_2/


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RE: How about a game on WWII Naval Battles? - 12/23/2018 9:14:25 AM   
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Almost forgot! Great Naval Battles series 1-4. That was great!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG-9yo6sbtY

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RE: How about a game on WWII Naval Battles? - 12/23/2018 9:41:31 AM   
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Well Victory at Sea isn't that bad, but the Victory at Sea: Pacific having some problems that aren't setup right. They are working on it right now, been like a month and still need a lot of work on it.

Looking forward to get it someday, if they get it setup right. Was told it is modable, but not sure how far that can go.

Btw love that Great Naval Battle Vol.3 Fury in the Pacific, wish they redid it so it would run on latest pc.

Also have Task Force 1942, it was great game back then, but I just cant stand that graphics anymore lol.

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RE: How about a game on WWII Naval Battles? - 12/23/2018 10:48:03 AM   
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Btw love that Great Naval Battle Vol.3 Fury in the Pacific, wish they redid it so it would run on latest pc.



You can use D-Fend Reloaded, it´s quite easy to use, once installed just import the zip file of the DOS game, follow instructions, then launch from the D-Fend window.

https://www.abandonwaredos.com/faq.php?idf=15

Iam playing GNB4 right now.

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RE: How about a game on WWII Naval Battles? - 12/23/2018 1:16:50 PM   
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Yeah I use DosBox, run great. Just saying wish they remade it that look better and more features to it on both sides.

Too bad they never move up on those series, simply gave up on it.

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RE: How about a game on WWII Naval Battles? - 12/23/2018 7:31:20 PM   
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Don’t forget “Action Stations!” The graphics are circa 1989, but the simulation is still first rate.

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RE: How about a game on WWII Naval Battles? - 12/23/2018 7:54:36 PM   
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I had the Amiga version of Action Stations!. The interface was better, being that it used windows. A flaw in the game is that using a 3/minute per turn time scale, ships with rapid fire guns, like an Atlanta, would really overwhelm the larger ships. But what I remember most about it is that in random game with land masses, the entire RN ran aground.......

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RE: How about a game on WWII Naval Battles? - 12/23/2018 9:17:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: canuckgamer

I am a fan of the WEGO system and have been playing the Combat Mission series for the last 20 years. I am going to buy Desert War 40-42 because it uses the WEGO system. Two key advantages of having a computer wargame is fog of war and you can use the WEGO system where you don't know what orders your opponent has given and the turn is resolved simultaneously after both sides have input their orders.
I would like to see Matrix or Slitherine release a game on naval battles in World War II using the WEGO system and obviously fog of war. I would also like the option of playing it PBEM. Scenarios such as Midway, Coral Sea, the hunt for the Bismarck come to mind. I have HPSSIMS Midway but it is online play only and there are no graphics unless you consider "TF2" or the ship name as graphics.
I know about Carriers at War but given that it was released in 2007 I wouldn't think it is much different than HPSSIMS Midway.



I haven't seen any mention of THE PTO WWII wargame to rule them all: War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition. WEGO, detailed beyond belief, fog of war, excellent PBEM, scenarios aplenty, etc. Do yourself a favor and go check out the subforum. Ask around, you won't be sorry.

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