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RE: Soviet Unready Units - 12/9/2018 5:08:37 AM   
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I have seen others write it is pro-Axis in 1941. So probably a pro-attacker thing. But that seems to be an opinion rather than a consensus.


I have better combat value as a German player I will rip you to shreds. I dont need a consensus from people to know it since I can read your defense and pretty much what leader you have where based on combat value. I wrote about this in my game with M60. Play with this when new to the game but I highly advise against it beyond that skill level.

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RE: Soviet Unready Units - 12/11/2018 1:53:54 PM   
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All the "Better math" option does is display a better estimation of the effective CV indicated on the units. It does a better job of informing a player of the actual strength of his units for possible combat. You must achieve a 2 to 1 one ratio for a victory. Unless I can see a 3 to 1 ratio displayed, my rule of thumb is to not even attempt an attack, unless there is some overriding reason to do so. Even then there is no guarantee, but it works for me.

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RE: Soviet Unready Units - 12/11/2018 2:11:53 PM   
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All the "Better math" option does is display a better estimation of the effective CV indicated on the units. It does a better job of informing a player of the actual strength of his units for possible combat. You must achieve a 2 to 1 one ratio for a victory. Unless I can see a 3 to 1 ratio displayed, my rule of thumb is to not even attempt an attack, unless there is some overriding reason to do so. Even then there is no guarantee, but it works for me.


That is the whole point isnt it? To show a better estimate. I need not say more than it takes a great deal more guess work out of knowing a possible result. But I digress on the Alt CV.

You have a good rule of thumb if playing Germans. IMO the rule of thumb does not work for Soviets. But that is just me.

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RE: Soviet Unready Units - 12/21/2018 11:21:30 AM   
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(as soviets january 42) All the reinforcements I receive are either depleted or unready. My manpower is very low ... What can I do ?

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RE: Soviet Unready Units - 12/21/2018 3:51:28 PM   
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Raise their maximum ToE so that they get replacements and leave them on refit on rails.

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RE: Soviet Unready Units - 12/21/2018 6:20:27 PM   
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Thanks !!

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RE: Soviet Unready Units - 12/21/2018 6:36:00 PM   
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All the "Better math" option does is display a better estimation of the effective CV indicated on the units. It does a better job of informing a player of the actual strength of his units for possible combat. You must achieve a 2 to 1 one ratio for a victory. Unless I can see a 3 to 1 ratio displayed, my rule of thumb is to not even attempt an attack, unless there is some overriding reason to do so. Even then there is no guarantee, but it works for me.


The only problem is that even "Better Math" does not have an appreciation for firepower and it is the final CV after the smoke clears that determines held all they way to rout. Depending on multiple factors it is quite possible to have less than 1:1 CV ratio before the shooting starts and move units rearward and I have had 4:1 but armor vs a unit in a swamp hex and an expensive held. Mastery of the firepower gives an edge.

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RE: Soviet Unready Units - 12/21/2018 8:02:06 PM   
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Certainly"better CV is not a panacea. It is a useful guide, especially for a new player. You can easily tell where the good generals are from a few attacks though looking at reported CV avoids those initial scouting attacks.

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RE: Soviet Unready Units - 12/26/2018 7:26:01 PM   
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Raise their maximum ToE so that they get replacements and leave them on refit on rails.


Just thinking: Why on rail ? Does it make sense ???

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RE: Soviet Unready Units - 12/26/2018 7:37:36 PM   
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Does not mean actually loaded on rail, just on a rail hex. Means they get the best supply and replacements. Further away they get less/take longer. I guess if you are training and exercising having a full meal every day and lots of bullets to practise with means you get better faster?

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RE: Soviet Unready Units - 12/26/2018 7:45:20 PM   
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OK, this makes sense :-) Thank you !

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