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RE: American Civil War Mod by BNC - 9/14/2018 1:12:01 AM   
BiteNibbleChomp


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Thanks for this mod. I'm starting a House Divided game today.

a couple of questions:

1) I've looked through your notes above and in the WWI manual, but see no special capabilities for marines. They cost double what an infantry division costs, but very much the same stats. Do they have higher morale or something?

2) For upcoming production I see a Union HQ available Jan/Feb '64. Is that correct?


Marines: Marines in the ACW weren't that good for much more than landing at or near harbours and then taking them to deny them from the enemy, so I don't want them to really be a viable front-line unit. In the later scenarios quite a few start on the map (places like Port Royal and New Orleans), and the increased reinforcement costs will hopefully deter from marching them into the heart of the CSA when such an operation wasn't really feasible. In 1861 they're not so relevant.

2: That would be Sherman. Seeing as he is a skill 8 general but spent the first half of the war as a division and then corps commander under Grant, I thought it would be a bit silly to allow the Union to purchase him in 1861/2 (when they should be limited to less skilled people such as McClellan).

Hope you enjoy the mod :)

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RE: American Civil War Mod by BNC - 9/14/2018 8:20:50 PM   
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I won't try to overthink things, but I wonder if a house rule might be necessary to keep from having long front lines, like WW1. Maybe I should require that any corps/div attached to an HQ has to be adjacent to that HQ. Of course the AI won't play that way, but a limited counter set may have the same effect.

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RE: American Civil War Mod by BNC - 9/15/2018 7:42:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: gwgardner

I won't try to overthink things, but I wonder if a house rule might be necessary to keep from having long front lines, like WW1. Maybe I should require that any corps/div attached to an HQ has to be adjacent to that HQ. Of course the AI won't play that way, but a limited counter set may have the same effect.


Not sure its necessary. Each of the big armies (eg. the Army of North Virginia) moved around quite a bit within their theatre, probably within a space of 4 tiles around a location at any one time. Seeing as the armies also had 2-4 corps in them, that covers the four tiles that the army is covering. Only instead of putting 4 corps on one tile, it displays as 1 corps on four tiles. Battles between several units can be assumed to be taking at one point along the line, even though it displays as being across half a state.

The build limits are low enough to stop a massive line forming from Washington to Memphis, although realistically speaking the map would have to be four times as big to fit everything at a scale that looks right. But then it becomes too easy to just walk around the enemy army and then scatter into a billion different directions grabbing everything that isn't defended.

The current set up is the best I could come up with that isn't horribly exploitable.

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RE: American Civil War Mod by BNC - 9/16/2018 8:05:18 PM   
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I played this mod yesterday and today as Union. It is really well done and a lot of fun. Congratulations!

I do have some suggestions. Being able to research to Naval tech Level 5 seems really high for this time period. There is already a nice difference between Monitors and Cruisers. Perhaps limiting Naval Tech to Level 1 or 2 would be better.

In the 1860's, one only traveled by foot, horse, train or ship. Being able to research Mobility Tech seems out of place.

Artillery didn't change very much during the 1860's also. I would suggest limiting Artillery Tech to Level 1. Artillery was very effective defensively, but not this effective on offense.

I wonder if it would be possible to create Union Gunboats. They would attack at range like Armored Trains. Such ships would be fun on the Mississippi River.

Thank you for creating such a wonderful mod.

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RE: American Civil War Mod by BNC - 9/17/2018 12:45:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Mithrilotter

I played this mod yesterday and today as Union. It is really well done and a lot of fun. Congratulations!

I do have some suggestions. Being able to research to Naval tech Level 5 seems really high for this time period. There is already a nice difference between Monitors and Cruisers. Perhaps limiting Naval Tech to Level 1 or 2 would be better.

In the 1860's, one only traveled by foot, horse, train or ship. Being able to research Mobility Tech seems out of place.

Artillery didn't change very much during the 1860's also. I would suggest limiting Artillery Tech to Level 1. Artillery was very effective defensively, but not this effective on offense.

I wonder if it would be possible to create Union Gunboats. They would attack at range like Armored Trains. Such ships would be fun on the Mississippi River.

Thank you for creating such a wonderful mod.


First off, thanks for playing the mod and I'm glad you're enjoying it

As to your suggestions:

Naval tech - never really thought about that other than "iron ships beat wooden ships" and possible improvements in naval organisation, but yeah I totally see the argument. Though I've never seen the AI research it (it has been programmed to but tends to have a lot of other priorities), and I never really bothered with it either in my billion test games, so it is probably not that big of a deal.

Mobility - I've always thought of it as a combination of improved tactics (such as Lee and Forrest running around without the Union knowing about them) and stuff like giving units more horses. Doctrine upgrades, that sort of thing.

Gunboats - you can, that's why the Mississippi and Ohio are navigable: purchase a cruiser or monitor and deploy it at an inland port.

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RE: American Civil War Mod by BNC - 9/17/2018 11:26:05 PM   
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Now I played the Confederate side through. I had a lot of fun with that also. This is a really well done mod!

My impression of Mobility Tech is when a nation invests in fossil fuel powered vehicles and develops a military capable truck to enhance the mobility of foot soldiers and replace horse drawn wagons. That development would cost money. Buying those new trucks and integrating them into units would naturally increase the cost of the unit. If Mobility Tech in the 1860's is just tactics, tactics can be passed on for free by word of mouth. No research would be required and there would be no additional expense for the cost of the unit.

A long time ago, I enjoyed playing a great board game by Avalon Hill called 1776. In it, the rebel units (Americans) were given one extra movement point over the government units (British). Being the Confederates generally seemed to move faster than the Union troops, perhaps the Confederate units should just be given one extra movement point and Movement Tech deleted from this 1860's game.

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RE: American Civil War Mod by BNC - 9/18/2018 3:51:49 PM   
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So excited to play this Mod. Stupid question - if I have the game through Steam how exactly do I get the scenarios to show up under Campaigns? I have copied the files into the Campaigns folder in the Local Files , but they don't show up when I load. Is there a different process for Steam? Thanks in advance

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RE: American Civil War Mod by BNC - 9/18/2018 11:12:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: cbrandonellis

So excited to play this Mod. Stupid question - if I have the game through Steam how exactly do I get the scenarios to show up under Campaigns? I have copied the files into the Campaigns folder in the Local Files , but they don't show up when I load. Is there a different process for Steam? Thanks in advance


I don't have a steam copy of WWI on hand to test with, but I checked with the WWII (Patton Drives East) game and ...\Documents\My Games\Strategic Command Classic WWII - Patton Drives East\Campaigns worked with another campaign I've been working on.

If you're using that directory, make sure you've unzipped the file and that your folder looks like the following:

- BNC




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RE: American Civil War Mod by BNC - 9/20/2018 5:33:04 PM   
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Holy, this is truly a hidden gem. Not much feedback to give or anything to complain about, but I'm enjoying it. Thanks BNC.

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RE: American Civil War Mod by BNC - 9/26/2018 11:19:16 AM   
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This is an excellent mod. Kudos to BNC. I would love to see a Napoleonic mod using this system. Even a small Waterloo campaign with division and brigade level units would be great.

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RE: American Civil War Mod by BNC - 9/26/2018 1:31:26 PM   
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Just downloading, thanks for all your hard work. I am looking forward to playing this.

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RE: American Civil War Mod by BNC - 9/29/2018 1:08:46 AM   
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The Union Kentucky Divisions can't be upgraded or controlled by a Union HQ. Was this intentional or an oversight. I send them over to Missouri for anti-partisan garrisons.

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RE: American Civil War Mod by BNC - 9/29/2018 12:56:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MarechalJoffre

Holy, this is truly a hidden gem. Not much feedback to give or anything to complain about, but I'm enjoying it. Thanks BNC.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Alan Sharif

Just downloading, thanks for all your hard work. I am looking forward to playing this.


Thanks for the support guys!

quote:

ORIGINAL: TangSooDo

This is an excellent mod. Kudos to BNC. I would love to see a Napoleonic mod using this system. Even a small Waterloo campaign with division and brigade level units would be great.


Personally I don't have any plans to do Napoleon at this stage (though it would be cool no doubt!). If anyone else would like to do one though, I've basically used the base WWI system but deleted a bunch of the unit classes and kept build limits low enough to ensure that long frontlines aren't physically possible (or that if they are, that the player using them is being foolish by dispersing their forces too much). If anyone would like to use the mod as a base for that, or any other project, you're welcome to as long as you drop me a credit :)

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ORIGINAL: Mithrilotter

The Union Kentucky Divisions can't be upgraded or controlled by a Union HQ. Was this intentional or an oversight. I send them over to Missouri for anti-partisan garrisons.

Having that occur wasn't my original plan, but it doesn't have much of an impact gamewise and makes sense historically so I don't mind leaving it in. I think of those units as reserve militia type formations more than actual battle units anyway (seeing as they spawn when the state is invaded), where more regular Kentuckian formations (which existed in both the US and CS armies) are part of the USA and CSA divisions/corps. Sending them to Missouri is certainly an interesting idea though!

- BNC

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RE: American Civil War Mod by BNC - 9/30/2018 11:00:28 PM   
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I sea invaded at low cost with regular divisions. I built marines when I ran out of other units to build.I used them mostly as garrison units.

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RE: American Civil War Mod by BNC [RELEASED!] - 1/4/2019 12:29:35 AM   
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Hi, I have the Matrix edition and I installed the ACW files as per the readme and the folders and files are in the campaigns folder but when I load the game and hit new game the ACW campaigns are not listed. Please help. Thanks, Tod K

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RE: American Civil War Mod by BNC [RELEASED!] - 1/4/2019 12:54:44 AM   
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@tkershner

Are you sure you put them in the correct campaigns folder (there's a separate one for the default WWI campaigns to the mod ones)? The correct one should be as below

C:\Users\BiteNibbleChomp\Documents\My Games\Strategic Command Classic WWI - Breakthrough\Campaigns (although replace "BiteNibbleChomp" with your own username).

- BNC

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