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RE: PAW 1941-45 larryfulkerson (Axis) vs warspite1 (All... - 6/16/2018 4:47:21 AM   
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Now the problems really start. With no control over my precious aircraft, and a carrier fleet to protect, MAG 21 decides to fly to New Caledonia (where land based air will be massive) to attack a carrier group with just a few aircraft. Good choice....and the whittling down process is now underway.




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RE: PAW 1941-45 larryfulkerson (Axis) vs warspite1 (All... - 6/16/2018 5:07:47 AM   
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What happens next is not so much about the lack of control of aircraft (but contributes - MAG 21 is effectively out of the game by combat 4....), but is also about the lack of realism.

Next up Task Force 4 orders an attack on the Japanese bombardment force at Vanua Levu. As said before I could have put the TF4 bombers on 'Rest' but then that would have been dumb if attacked by surface ships.....

But that is not the issue here....


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RE: PAW 1941-45 larryfulkerson (Axis) vs warspite1 (All... - 6/16/2018 5:34:40 AM   
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The whittling away of Task Force 4's ability to defend itself continues. Remember all 4 attacks are initiated by the Allies - or rather by the program on behalf of the Allied player.....and there is nothing the Allied player can do about it.




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RE: PAW 1941-45 larryfulkerson (Axis) vs warspite1 (All... - 6/16/2018 5:57:51 AM   
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Next (Combat 9) comes a bombardment by 2 battleships and a heavy cruiser against the airfield at Vanua Levu. MAG 21 and REC 10 have 11 Dauntless, 16 Wildcats and 11 Kingfishers. The bombardment reduces the Wildcats by 3 and the Dauntless by a further 2. The aircraft don't seemingly attack the ships in defence....

And so we come to the destruction of Task Force 4.

For the attack Larry was able to bring in 6 aircraft carriers - 4 of which are fleet carriers of the 1st Air Fleet. I don't have any major issue with the result given the disparity of forces. But I do not understand why, throughout the combats mentioned, the Japanese always had aircraft they could bring to every battle, but the 18th Fighter Group on Vanua Levu (which was right next door to three of the battles and well within range of the carrier battle to come) never flew once. In fact, come to think of it, when the Japanese bombarded the airfield in Combat 9, why weren't the fighters targeted? Is this a bug?

The 54th Fighter Group on Samoa was well within range of this battle, didn't fly. So a fair summary would be, while out of my control aircraft I didn't want to fly - flew stupid missions, while the time I wanted aircraft to fly, they didn't. Sorry, this is the operational art of war. Having some control of operations is kind of implied in the title.... this just seems too random.




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RE: PAW 1941-45 larryfulkerson (Axis) vs warspite1 (All... - 6/16/2018 8:56:03 AM   
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So the actual combats in the PI and Pacific were as follows.




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RE: PAW 1941-45 larryfulkerson (Axis) vs warspite1 (All... - 6/16/2018 10:48:11 PM   
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Incredible. The Japanese parachute battalion that was attacked twice and reduced to a half dozen squads, has retreated three times and is out of supply is not applicable for an RBC.... of course.... Then when sizing up an attack with the entire Indian infantry division the predicted result is 'impossible to predict'. Erm.... okay.

Three newly arrived destroyer divisions appear in Calcutta (for some reason) and when I try and move them they are immediately attacked by Japanese land-based bombers - Nell and Betty. From where these originate I've no idea but the closest is likely to be Thailand or Sumatra. Fortunately the destroyers are undamaged and the Japanese lose three bombers.

USS New Mexico is almost a wreck and does not have the movement points to get to Pearl or the West Coast. I decide to get her away as far as she can make it - and to travel past Samoa in doing so. While just off Samoa the remains of TF4 are attacke by 38 bombers escorted by 60 fighters (half of which are Claudes). This time the Airacobra unit does fly and, at a cost of 1 fighter, the Japanese lose 5 bombers and 3 fighters.

Then when the fleet is to the east of Samoa (but still well within fighter range) it is found again in what must be hundreds of miles from any enemy aircraft. The US fighters don't fly (really?) and at a cost of just 4 Japanese bombers, two destroyers are sunk as is the New Mexico.

So the upshot of all that is that there really isn't much left for me to move. I have no idea if Larry can see my fleet on the West Coast. I have to hope not but given what I've seen so far I think that can't be taken for granted. But I have no fighters there anyway so I think its not a very safe place to be. With three aircraft carriers and two battleships sunk and the Japanese totally in control of the Western Pacific and Indian Oceans there is little point in just hiding away. I send what is left of the Pacific Fleet to Hawaii where, in theory at least, I have some aircraft to protect them. On the way there, one fleet is intercepted between Pearl and the US west coast. 4 bombers are lost for only light damage to a destroyer.

Despite what the predicted result is telling me I decide to attack what is after all just the remnants of an out of supply, beaten up, severely depleted paratroop battalion. I do this with an entire Indian division and two Chinese divisions. But sadly its getting late and I press the wrong button and end the turn instead! Whoops. Probably for the best - I suspect the Allies would have been wiped out....

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