Japanese 800Kg AP bomb
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Japanese 800Kg AP bomb
When attacking PH what determines it's use. I've now run an attack 10 times and each time I've had Kates using it to varying degrees, from none to all. Those that used torpedos actually shouldn't be as all Kates have no access to trops(Trops are red) on the first turn. I beleive the later has to do with it being the first turn but that still does not explain the use of the bomb unless it is purely random.
RE: Japanese 800Kg AP bomb
I think the code is set up to have some Kate squadrons equipped with partly torpedoes, partly bombs, to match historical armaments. The Japanese wanted to hit the BBs that were moored inboard of another BB, which meant torps could not reach them. There may be some randomization of how many bombs are equipped by the Kates during the PH strike, or it just may be that the hits are randomized from game to game.ORIGINAL: Chris21wen
When attacking PH what determines it's use. I've now run an attack 10 times and each time I've had Kates using it to varying degrees, from none to all. Those that used torpedos actually shouldn't be as all Kates have no access to trops(Trops are red) on the first turn. I beleive the later has to do with it being the first turn but that still does not explain the use of the bomb unless it is purely random.
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RE: Japanese 800Kg AP bomb
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
I think the code is set up to have some Kate squadrons equipped with partly torpedoes, partly bombs, to match historical armaments. The Japanese wanted to hit the BBs that were moored inboard of another BB, which meant torps could not reach them. There may be some randomization of how many bombs are equipped by the Kates during the PH strike, or it just may be that the hits are randomized from game to game.ORIGINAL: Chris21wen
When attacking PH what determines it's use. I've now run an attack 10 times and each time I've had Kates using it to varying degrees, from none to all. Those that used torpedos actually shouldn't be as all Kates have no access to trops(Trops are red) on the first turn. I beleive the later has to do with it being the first turn but that still does not explain the use of the bomb unless it is purely random.
Having run the turn so many times I think there must be some considerable randomness envovled. It's no biggy I was testing something else when I noticed it.
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RE: Japanese 800Kg AP bomb
With enough iterations you will also experience ones with no torpedoes.
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RE: Japanese 800Kg AP bomb
ORIGINAL: HansBolter
With enough iterations you will also experience ones with no torpedoes.
I did.
I also noticed something else, if you set the Kates to bombs the they will use the 800KG in their first attack on PH. No idea if it works the same for other attacks by Kates.
RE: Japanese 800Kg AP bomb
The manual is an amazing place to find information:
in section 7.2.1.7 is this snippet
Bombers attacking ports will attack any ships at anchor 50% of the time, however, TF’s docked
in port will not be attacked. These attacks use bombs with only a small percentage of torpedo
bombers using torpedoes (as it is assumed these ships may be in dry dock or protected by
torpedo nets). If there are less than 10 ships at port, the chance of bombers attacking ships
lessens with each number less than 10 (so, bombers would be more likely to attack ships if 9
were in port as opposed to 4).
Note that anytime the assigned mission for Torpedo Bombers is Port Attack, the Torpedo line will be Red.
Notice, Scenario 1, Kaga TB group:
in section 7.2.1.7 is this snippet
Bombers attacking ports will attack any ships at anchor 50% of the time, however, TF’s docked
in port will not be attacked. These attacks use bombs with only a small percentage of torpedo
bombers using torpedoes (as it is assumed these ships may be in dry dock or protected by
torpedo nets). If there are less than 10 ships at port, the chance of bombers attacking ships
lessens with each number less than 10 (so, bombers would be more likely to attack ships if 9
were in port as opposed to 4).
Note that anytime the assigned mission for Torpedo Bombers is Port Attack, the Torpedo line will be Red.
Notice, Scenario 1, Kaga TB group:
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RE: Japanese 800Kg AP bomb
ORIGINAL: BillBrown
The manual is an amazing place to find information:
in section 7.2.1.7 is this snippet
Bombers attacking ports will attack any ships at anchor 50% of the time, however, TF’s docked
in port will not be attacked. These attacks use bombs with only a small percentage of torpedo
bombers using torpedoes (as it is assumed these ships may be in dry dock or protected by
torpedo nets). If there are less than 10 ships at port, the chance of bombers attacking ships
lessens with each number less than 10 (so, bombers would be more likely to attack ships if 9
were in port as opposed to 4).
I did find that but my original question was about 800Kg while normally attacks are carried out using a 250Kg and wasn't sure it applied to the first turn.
Note that anytime the assigned mission for Torpedo Bombers is Port Attack, the Torpedo line will be Red.
Notice, Scenario 1, Kaga TB group:
Yes I worked that one out afterwards but having played the game since conception I should already know.
RE: Japanese 800Kg AP bomb
Vals use 250kg bombs as their largest weapon at normal range. Kates can carry a heavier load and should carry the 800kg bombs (if available in the pools) to normal range and use the 250kg bombs only at extended range.ORIGINAL: Chris21wen
ORIGINAL: BillBrown
The manual is an amazing place to find information:
in section 7.2.1.7 is this snippet
Bombers attacking ports will attack any ships at anchor 50% of the time, however, TF’s docked
in port will not be attacked. These attacks use bombs with only a small percentage of torpedo
bombers using torpedoes (as it is assumed these ships may be in dry dock or protected by
torpedo nets). If there are less than 10 ships at port, the chance of bombers attacking ships
lessens with each number less than 10 (so, bombers would be more likely to attack ships if 9
were in port as opposed to 4).
I did find that but my original question was about 800Kg while normally attacks are carried out using a 250Kg and wasn't sure it applied to the first turn.
Note that anytime the assigned mission for Torpedo Bombers is Port Attack, the Torpedo line will be Red.
Notice, Scenario 1, Kaga TB group:
Yes I worked that one out afterwards but having played the game since conception I should already know.
No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth
RE: Japanese 800Kg AP bomb
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
Vals use 250kg bombs as their largest weapon at normal range. Kates can carry a heavier load and should carry the 800kg bombs (if available in the pools) to normal range and use the 250kg bombs only at extended range.ORIGINAL: Chris21wen
ORIGINAL: BillBrown
The manual is an amazing place to find information:
in section 7.2.1.7 is this snippet
Bombers attacking ports will attack any ships at anchor 50% of the time, however, TF’s docked
in port will not be attacked. These attacks use bombs with only a small percentage of torpedo
bombers using torpedoes (as it is assumed these ships may be in dry dock or protected by
torpedo nets). If there are less than 10 ships at port, the chance of bombers attacking ships
lessens with each number less than 10 (so, bombers would be more likely to attack ships if 9
were in port as opposed to 4).
I did find that but my original question was about 800Kg while normally attacks are carried out using a 250Kg and wasn't sure it applied to the first turn.
Note that anytime the assigned mission for Torpedo Bombers is Port Attack, the Torpedo line will be Red.
Notice, Scenario 1, Kaga TB group:
Yes I worked that one out afterwards but having played the game since conception I should already know.
Actually, I'm pretty sure that if set to bombs the Kates will carry 2x 250kg unless they pass the experience check to carry 1x 800kg.
RE: Japanese 800Kg AP bomb
ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
Actually, I'm pretty sure that if set to bombs the Kates will carry 2x 250kg unless they pass the experience check to carry 1x 800kg.
+1.
RE: Japanese 800Kg AP bomb
Right, I forgot about the experience check condition.ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
Vals use 250kg bombs as their largest weapon at normal range. Kates can carry a heavier load and should carry the 800kg bombs (if available in the pools) to normal range and use the 250kg bombs only at extended range.ORIGINAL: Chris21wen
I did find that but my original question was about 800Kg while normally attacks are carried out using a 250Kg and wasn't sure it applied to the first turn.
Yes I worked that one out afterwards but having played the game since conception I should already know.
Actually, I'm pretty sure that if set to bombs the Kates will carry 2x 250kg unless they pass the experience check to carry 1x 800kg.
No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth