From: Iowan in MD/DC
ORIGINAL: Mike Solli
I forswore the Oscar. I've found the Oscar-Ic to be a good sweeper in early 1942, against Hurricanes and P-40E's, but once I can replace that function with Georges the Oscar is going. I'm not R&Ding any more of those planes, either.
In my first Japan game, I R&D'd all the way to the Oscar-IV, with its cannons. It was very underwhelming.
I like the Oscar III and IV. I don't want to waste the already purchased factories and they are good LR escorts. They're also service 1 with armor and the CL 20mm by the end, which are decent. You also can get them quite early.
It just fits how I play to keep some of these producing. Everyone should consider the costs and make their own choices.
The Oscar III is right around the corner for me. So far, I have to agree with Lokasenna. It's been a flying casket for me. I am doing the R&D out to the Oscar IV in my AAR though. We'll see. Obvert, my reasoning for seeing through to the IV is the same as yours. We'll see if it is worth it though. I keep looking back to the range, armor and cannons.......and hoping.
Edit: I'll have to check and confirm, but I believe one of the Oscar models is the single model with the highest losses of any model on either side in the game so far.
Low durability is it's obvious downfall, and late game mixed with slow speed isn't a great combo. BUT, as an escort I don't care if they die, I care about their manoeuvre letting them make some of the CAP miss and get the escorts through, and for this they've been good.
The Ki-100 is also somewhat disappointing, although it has better durability, I just haven't found it to last much in defensive layered CAP against sweeps. Against bombers it's great, and it's a decent escort too.
For me the Tojo just dropped off in effectiveness after about mid-44 last time through, so I need something else service 1 to be a useful low CAP, escort and multi-use plane. I make both the Ki-100 and Oscar, and still making the Tojo now, but really want a George/Jack for the IJAAF. It's fine if Symon's speed and manoeuvre changes are in use, as the Ki-100 gets a major boost, but without that it's pick your poison.
I've never tried to only produce Franks and Georges. I imagine at some point in 44-45 half my fighters would be sitting on the ground repairing. I've tried to be economically conservative in my current late game but for all of that I'm seeing B-29s get through and my economy taking a hit, so it might be better to front load and have more to battle initial stages of Allied strat bombing. Its all so game dependent there is no easy answer.
That's the difference . I do care if they die... well, if they die before they can kill stuff. That's my experience with Oscars. I stopped wasting good pilots on them, and since I really only use at least decent pilots still... I'll escort with Franks, thanks.
The Ki-100 is better on paper than in practice, yes. I've found the same - it tends to get slaughtered by things like P-47s and Corsairs on sweeps, more so than the Tojo, but at least it's over my own base. I will also use them for escorts - they do better in that role than in sweep defense.
I'd say that my IJAAF fighter force is at least 50% Frank-r. I'm pretty satisfied with how everything is performing. Actually, I have that Tracker open right now. I have (maximum unit size used):
16 Sentai, 1 Chutai, 1 detachment of Ki-84r Frank: 790 planes
12 Sentai, 1 Chutai of Ki-100-I Tony: 604 planes
4 Sentai, 1 Chutai of Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 212 planes
2 Sentai, 2 detachments of Ki-83: 117 planes
2 Sentai, 1 Chutai of Ki-102a Randy: 84 planes
2 Sentai of Oscar-IV: 98 planes (these are exclusively on night CAP, where they'll only be seeing bombers)
3 Sentai of Ki-84a Frank: 49 active duty, 146 training
4 Sentai, 2 Chutai of Ki-27 Nate for training: 286(?) pilots
So you can see that the Ki-100 is my primary CAP plane to fill in for the Franks (which also fly CAP, and occasionally sweep with the Ki-83 as well, which I will use more of as I build up a pool of them). I had actually cycled the Tojo out almost completely, until the Tony started getting shredded. I switched back to a mix and am more satisfied with that. Maybe this turn I'll switch my Oscar-IV's to Tojos, if I can.