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RE: Suggestion for US & USSR Diplomacy Change - 1/3/2018 8:13:16 AM   
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Nope. The only difference is that you can't get that 10% of major increase like you do with minors


The chances are 8-15% to be precise, according to the manual.

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The reason is that UK money invested in diplo is usually money that wouldn't be invested in the defense of France anyway (unlike Germany expenditures).


And the french money? Imho not to waste their money or to find better investments than their possibly lost cause is the only reason for uber. Otherwise, I could imagine other opportunities to invest.

Blitz is one possible solution. It could also be a chance for the Axis to waste even more money to counter uber...

Uber bears high risks. If the Brits don`t succeed (which means to achieve more and bigger hits than average), they're probably screwed.


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RE: Suggestion for US & USSR Diplomacy Change - 1/3/2018 11:17:10 AM   
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And the french money?


Put things in perspective. Germany investment missing out of more than lvl 1 2 tanks worth. Two additional panzers, that attack twice a turn, that have a real chance of shaving some turns on the date of France surrender. Any combination of additional units France might buy don't have such an impact on the outcome. By waiting in the spring attack you surrender any advantages from the unreadiness of the french army since by spring its army had time to reinforce.

Blitzing probably gets you an extra 5 turn of French income which would recoup operating costs and some of the investment in countering UK Diplochits.

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RE: Suggestion for US & USSR Diplomacy Change - 1/3/2018 4:18:23 PM   
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We had that discussion already, but we can repeat it again if you like.


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RE: Suggestion for US & USSR Diplomacy Change - 1/3/2018 4:23:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Harrybanana

Has anyone seen Uber Diplomacy in reverse? In other words the game proceeds as usual with no Allied uber diplomacy. Then after the Axis conquer France the Germans and Italians immediately purchase the maximum chits in the USSR. Even if the UK counters with 1 chit a turn (which at 150 MPPS a pop is a big investment at that point of the game) the Axis will get an average of 1.5 hits within the first 5 turns. Thereafter they will average a hit every Axis 7 turns. So has anyone done the math to determine if, on average, the Axis can keep Russia out of the War until the late spring (April or May) of 42? I would try this in a future game; but I'm pretty sure I would get below average luck.



Yes, I've got something like this happening in one of my games, I'm the allies and my axis opponent did a late 1940 Sealion (preceded by heavy air attacks), and has invested both Germany and Italy heavily into both diplo and tech. I've seen Axis diplo hits against Spain, USA AND USSR and it's still only early 1941... The British are very short of MPPs due to Sea Lion (and defending against Axis activity in North Africa), so have not had much available for countering diplomatic action by the Axis (nor much for tech after Sea Lion was apparent). On the plus side the Royal Navy has sunk both German starting Battlecruisers and two Heavy Cruisers, despite Germany having teched-up naval. He also seems to have sent the majority of the Regia Marina into the Atlantic to bolster what's left of the German fleet, though.

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