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RE: JJ(Axis) PBEM AAR - 12/17/2017 6:57:31 PM   
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ND 39 China

The Umezu-Yamamoto pincer applied pressure from the north and south on Changsha. A disorganized Chinese army south of the city was scattered and then an assault on Changsha itself was conducted late in the turn. The combination of Chinese losses and the loss of a production centre should begin to handicap the Chinese effort in 1940.

Note the snow in N Temperate but clear in N Monsoon that allows the Japanese to make good progress.




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RE: JJ(Axis) PBEM AAR - 12/17/2017 7:00:38 PM   
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Japanese high command feels very good about progress in China while the German and Italian high commands are not so optimistic. Germany didn't focus enough on Poland and is now scrambling to finish and get forces back west in time for the spring. Italy is being pounded by the CW & FR navies and can't seem to find at sea but at least it appears Sardinia is saved for the moment with the arrival of a strong German corp.

Here is EOT in China. Note the Chinese MOTDIV trying to slip east to take some cities for USE hits. Luckily JP will go first in JF 40 and have a chance to react to pinch off and eliminate the MOTDIV.

The Chinese mountain line is looking rather weak after the losses taken this turn by the Chinese army and the heavy commitment to bolster the Chicom in the north.




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RE: JJ(Axis) PBEM AAR - 12/18/2017 12:06:48 AM   
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I think you each made a simple error in the battle for Chang-Sha. If the Shanghai MIL was the remaining 3rd unit subject to the Shatter result, it would have never returned to the map. Well, until possibly in 1945 or so if the Chinese were able to take Shanghai, then it would appear there the next reinforcement phase like long lost magic. But then the Shatter result was converted to a Retreat, so that particular MIL does get to fight again after being pushed back one hex.

I usually hide the Shanghai and Peking MIL in Nanning, which is a very good city for the Japanese to have. When the Japanese finally get close to it, I turn the defense over to other units and just use those 2 units as blocking units on a flank that can't be attacked from more than one hex. And continuously retreat them.

It is one thought to pick the Blitz table for the Chinese to save on unit losses. It is even better to simply retreat before a 3-4 hex attack can even be launched, especially a 4 hex attack, and Chiang was perfectly positioned for that in one of the better areas to deploy him, right along the weather line, with a strong river and mountain line right adjacent for the retreating troops to occupy. But then also most Russian players will fight to the death for Moscow with plenty of lost units, even after the factories rail out.

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RE: JJ(Axis) PBEM AAR - 12/18/2017 1:34:07 PM   
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I think you each made a simple error in the battle for Chang-Sha. If the Shanghai MIL was the remaining 3rd unit subject to the Shatter result, it would have never returned to the map. Well, until possibly in 1945 or so if the Chinese were able to take Shanghai, then it would appear there the next reinforcement phase like long lost magic. But then the Shatter result was converted to a Retreat, so that particular MIL does get to fight again after being pushed back one hex.

I usually hide the Shanghai and Peking MIL in Nanning, which is a very good city for the Japanese to have. When the Japanese finally get close to it, I turn the defense over to other units and just use those 2 units as blocking units on a flank that can't be attacked from more than one hex. And continuously retreat them.

It is one thought to pick the Blitz table for the Chinese to save on unit losses. It is even better to simply retreat before a 3-4 hex attack can even be launched, especially a 4 hex attack, and Chiang was perfectly positioned for that in one of the better areas to deploy him, right along the weather line, with a strong river and mountain line right adjacent for the retreating troops to occupy. But then also most Russian players will fight to the death for Moscow with plenty of lost units, even after the factories rail out.

Yes, this occurred to me about the Shanghai MIL while posting the pic for the AAR. You're exactly right. And good advice about where to put them. Nanning is usually a bit of a backwater and that whole area is hard to attack with rivers and mountains.

re: Changsha. iirc the Chinese in the city were partially flipped so CH would have had to lose 1 unit anyway if retreating. I guess they lost 2 but had a chance to hold the city or cause losses, and weren't sure whether JP would get clear weather to make the attack. Still, it probably would have been a little better move to write off the flipped unit and evacuate an impulse sooner.

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RE: JJ(Axis) PBEM AAR - 12/20/2017 11:57:28 AM   
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JF 40 turn.

JF began with the Wehrmacht hoping to finish off Warsaw then march west to attack Belgium in MA 40. Germany got init but snow weather. A decision was taken to assault Warsaw anyway. The assault was helped by the fact that the Polish HQI had never unflipped due to lack of oil in Poland, and by Von Bock's arrival after spending ND 39 marching across Germany to assist in the assault on Warsaw. Preceded by Italian and German air ground strikes, German troops were able to storm the city and Poland's fate is finally sealed. The Axis only got 2 impulses so the 2nd impulse was spent marching west. Unfortunately most of the Luftwaffe ground support aircraft were also facedown in Poland so getting the air west in time for MA 40 wasn't possible.




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RE: JJ(Axis) PBEM AAR - 12/20/2017 12:00:23 PM   
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JF 40 Asia:

Japan was able to catch a Chinese GAR with a ground strike on its first impulse then make an attack on its 2nd impulse to take the city of Kweilin and prevent the GAR from withdrawing into the mountains with the other Chinese units. With a short 2 impulse turn and bad weather not much else happened in China.




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RE: JJ(Axis) PBEM AAR - 12/20/2017 12:16:23 PM   
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MA 40 Europe:
March and April weather was nasty again and the Axis only got 2 impulses, both with bad weather. The decision was taken to launch an invasion of Belgium on the 2nd impulse despite snow. Much of the German army and air force was still in transit across Germany after the fall of Poland. However, with strong infantry forces in Rotterdam and the Fleigerkorp available on map the invasion made sense to set up an invasion of France proper in MJ 40.

The assault was launched and succeeded in taking the Dyle line and knocking Belgium out of the war. GE LND3's flew ground support at extended range just to get into the French theatre since there weren't enough German air missions to successfully rebase the whole Luftwaffe across Germany in the short JF/MA turns.

The Allies had the last impulse so were able to move into West Belgium to form a strong line opposing the Germans.

In the Med Italy once again searched in vain for the CW and FR convoy lines in W Med. The Italian subs also continued to search in CSV and CVB sz's finding nothing. Sardinia was strengthened as the French DIV fell back to Corsica and the UK DIV was sent to Tunisia. Strong CW air and naval assets continued to base at Malta, with some naval skirmishing in It Coast.

Small Italian forces moved into Tunisia over the winter and approached Tunis which was defended by a lone CW DIV but lack of supply prohibited any attack. RN CV's were patrolling W Med in a high box and the single IT TRS couldn't be risked. The repaired IT TRS arrived back on map in MA 40 and Italy prepared for activity in MJ 40 while building NAV3's and PIL.





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RE: JJ(Axis) PBEM AAR - 12/20/2017 12:24:03 PM   
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MA 40 Asia:

Short turn so not much happened in China. Yamamoto led an attack on a 3-3 MIL in the mountains northwest of Kweilin and killed the MIL but the JP flipped so that was the end of that for the turn. China continued to backpedal while in the North Chengchow was besieged but no attack launched yet.

Japanese builds have been focused on ground forces. Notable builds so far include:
Synth, advance build HQI, LND3 (to strat bomb China), ART and lots of MIL/INF.





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RE: JJ(Axis) PBEM AAR - 12/20/2017 1:22:43 PM   
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summer 40 prelude:

At this point I thought I'd stop and reflect briefly on the game so far and set the stage for the important summer 40 campaigns for France, French N. Africa, and China.

The Japanese high command is feeling good about progress so far. The production centre of Changsha has been seized and the res there is now shipping to Tokyo. Heavy losses have been inflicted on Natchi.

Italian high command is relieved that Sardinia was saved and is cautiously advancing due to low supply on Tunis. The primary Italian job in 1939 of landing in Algeria and cutting convoys through the med were complete failures due to the early CW DOW, poor weather, short turns, and bad search rolls.

In all Italian subs searched SO, ND, JF, MA and didn't find a single convoy. The same for Italian air in W Med, not a single find all game. Futility. Italy could only watch helplessly as resources from a 4 point thick convoy lined steamed into French harbors all winter long and the French army grew at an alarming rate while CW troops continued to pour into North France and Belgium. Despite German urging to cut the convoy line there Italians could not do the job. Credit to the allies for boldness in the med. The early DOW and landing in Sardinia and damaging the TRS put the Italians in backpedal mode leading up to summer 40.

German high command is also unhappy. While Belgium has been taken on the last impulse of MA 40, important parts of the Wehrmacht and Luftwaffe are still crossing Germany to get in place for the attack on France. The double BEF and un-hindered French military buildup makes the outlook for the battle of France very gloomy. The allied plan of going after Italy, shipping heavy convoys through the Med and landing a double BEF (Wavell + Gort) has worked perfectly. German commanders face an uphill battle.

The Euroaxis had planned to make a stab at Morocco but that seems completely unthinkable now. There were also plans to attack Greece but that plan has been scrapped and the Euroaxis will probably just try to attack Yugoslavia in winter 40 instead. Overall not a very satisfactory beginning to the war. The only bright spot is that Italian and German losses have been low. A couple KM ships and an IT TRS damaged. There has been steady attrition of French navy in the It Coast as they have battled all winter at unfavorable odds vs the Regia Marina and Axis air in Italian Coast sz.

Germans have built a synth an ART a few scattered MIL/INF, and have ramped up air production in 1940 with LND2+FTR2 arriving MJ 40 and LND2+2xFTR2 arriving JA 40 including the 4 range GE FTR2 that will be critical to the effort in the Med in fall of 40. Italy has focused on repairing the TRS and building PIL + NAV3. No subs have been built yet in the game.

All Axis powers have taken lower builds in order to stockpile some oil with the oil count at start of MJ 40 being:
GE 12 oil
IT 4 oil
JP 13 oil

Here are losses so far leading into summer 40.




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RE: JJ(Axis) PBEM AAR - 12/20/2017 2:59:53 PM   
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Oil investing is playing consevatively.

Where were the Belgian INF, out of curiosity? Some Allied players, if pre-positioned correctly and late in a turn particularly ( also more likely without Rotterdam in Axis hands), would take delight in the Fallschirmjäegers dropping on an undefended Brussels as that gives them the opportunity to decline the notional and leave the PARA alone in the hex, as without an actual combat taking place, the adjacent German units can not advance in. And then the cream of the French Army descends on the lonely Paratroopers.

Search early, and search often. The most likely result of all attempts at naval combat is - No Combat.

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RE: JJ(Axis) PBEM AAR - 12/20/2017 3:44:51 PM   
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Oil investing is playing consevatively.

Where were the Belgian INF, out of curiosity? Some Allied players, if pre-positioned correctly and late in a turn particularly ( also more likely without Rotterdam in Axis hands), would take delight in the Fallschirmjäegers dropping on an undefended Brussels as that gives them the opportunity to decline the notional and leave the PARA alone in the hex, as without an actual combat taking place, the adjacent German units can not advance in. And then the cream of the French Army descends on the lonely Paratroopers.

Search early, and search often. The most likely result of all attempts at naval combat is - No Combat.


Italy has searched and searched but to no avail. They did find once or twice in MJ in W Med but still no finds by subs going into JA 40.

Belgium put 2 INF in Brussels. CW/FR could have tried that plan, but I think in this case the bad weather would have worked to help the Germans. Antwerp was occupied and so was the forest hex SE of Brussels. So it'd have been a 2 hex attack by Brits+Belgians at about (23/8=+6, +1 HQ, +1 HQ commit, -2 HQ commit, -2 city/stack, -4 snow) +1 I think assuming GE could get a combo of arty/LND to double the para on defense which they probably could have since they had a 4-2 ART next to the city. A chance to kill the PARA but if turn continued and weather turned with flipped Brits in front of Brussels the Germans might have had a turnabout on the Brits.

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RE: JJ(Axis) PBEM AAR - 12/20/2017 4:56:52 PM   
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Yes it all depends on where the ART (might flip taking Antwerp, esp. on a 2 hex winter attack) ends up, who has how much air left, (RAF can Ground Strike in support of a French attack, etc.), even who is moving first and who might get a fresh weather roll for a counterattack and who might have the fated-to-disappear-anyway Belgian INF available.

Starting out with strategic WWII games with Third Reich, I used to think of PARAs as a strategic asset for game changing coup-de-mains behind enemy lines. This included playing World in Flames. But as the powers of PARAs have declined slightly in the game, it is harder to remember their handy tactical uses. Still, they are like the big Fleet CV of land units, in that the opposing player can focus on them, perhaps inordinately.

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RE: JJ(Axis) PBEM AAR - 12/24/2017 4:41:40 AM   
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I'm enjoying this AAR a lot. Thanks for posting it!

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RE: JJ(Axis) PBEM AAR - 12/28/2017 12:55:23 PM   
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MJ 40 Chinese theatre:

MJ turn is usually slow going in south China due to bad weather in N Monsoon, and this MJ was no different (only 10% chance of fine weather in N Monsoon). JP got 4 impulses of bad weather there. However JP got 4 impulses of good weather in N Temperate and the objective for MJ 40 was to assault Chengchow (held by a 4-1 GAR) and then begin to march on Si-An. JP had very limited forces to face the Chicom so no assault could be attempted until reinforcements were landed from JP and marched west which was planned for JA 40.

The assault on Chengchow went well and the city fell without loss. Little happened in S China due to weather. The only excitement was Yamamoto launching a an assault on Chiang but a bad roll resulted in attacker flipping and neither side taking any loss. There was also a Natchi CAVDIV that snuck into Changsha and had to be assaulted out by Umezu (successfully). Luckily there was no USE hit for re-taking the city.

Most JP units in S China were not moved so that they wouldn't flip or enter Chinese ZOC. This would have prevented them from counting as garrison against partisans appearing. So hold fast was the word in S China.

MJ felt like a bit of a wasted turn in China but that's to be expected with most JP forces in the south and N Monsoon bad weather. But with 2 INF, GAR, ART arriving next turn and earmarked for N China, the pace should pick up in JA 40.

Here's a shot of EOT in China.




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RE: JJ(Axis) PBEM AAR - 12/28/2017 1:08:14 PM   
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MJ 40 Europe

As this turn began GE high command felt very disheartened by the huge force defending France. There were doubts about whether France could be taken at all before winter of 40 began. Here's a shot of the really extraordinary force defending France.




7 points were noted by German high command:
1) French air force was not notably stronger than in any other game.
2) Strasbourg (Eastmost hex of Maginot) had only 1 unit - the only weak spot in the defense of France. Wermacht was positioned during MA 40 to be able to get 8 corps into an attack on Strasburg in case this opportunity was available in MJ 40.
3) With 3 RAF FTR avail it would be best to (mostly) avoid engaging the RAF and focus the Luftwaffe against the French. To allow some disruption of the Brits the German 4-2 ART was positioned in Antwerp. Unfortunately the 3-3 ART was still marching across Germany to reach the French front. GE had 3 FTR avail and a 4th IT FTR could be based in France later in MJ turn if needed. This might leave the Regia Marina open to port attacks but the focus this turn had to be France.
4) The allied line might be best attacked at the junction between French forces and the BEF.
5) The best hope for MJ 40 was to plan for a long turn. Attacks should be efficient, fairly conservative to avoid flips. Luftwaffe and HQ flips should be carefully measured out so that if the Germans get 3+ clear weather impulses they are able to take advantage of the good weather and aren't out of planes, HQ's, and unflipped units to continue the offensive.
6) Clearly an o-chit was needed on the first or 2nd impulse to create some penetrations of the very stout allied defensive line. Germany starts with 2 and this was definitely the place to use 1 of them.
7) The IT older LND3's with ATR capability had not been scrapped and in fact a 6 range LND3 with ATR capability was already deployed in Italy supporting operations in Sardinia. This could be based in France and allow 2 or more drops of the Fallschirmjager corp during summer turns. The PARA not only adds 4 factors (not halved by river, fort to attacks but also provides an extra +1 to the die roll so this unit will be important to use well.

So the plan for MJ would be to play the long game and set up for a continued attack in JA 40 vs a weakened France. If the BEF could be flipped and isolate in Belgium that would be a bonus, and in any case the Wermacht would look for opportunities to kill BEF forces before they could be evacuated.

But all this aside, there was a lot of uncertainty about whether the attack on France could succeed at all before winter conditions arrived. Gort, Wavell, Pretelat, Billotte, Georges....5 allied HQ's awaited commanding a large combied allied army.

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RE: JJ(Axis) PBEM AAR - 12/28/2017 2:19:53 PM   
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The French line could be stronger yet if they had built the MECH instead of the 3rd HQ-I and put their tanks right in the front line stacked with the AT assets. But it looks like the French put the Phony War time to good use, sensibly building land units.

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RE: JJ(Axis) PBEM AAR - 12/28/2017 2:56:41 PM   
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If France has only one unit in Strasburg I like to use ENG and break line there with massive ground support.

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RE: JJ(Axis) PBEM AAR - 12/28/2017 3:01:03 PM   
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The French line could be stronger yet if they had built the MECH instead of the 3rd HQ-I and put their tanks right in the front line stacked with the AT assets. But it looks like the French put the Phony War time to good use, sensibly building land units.


Yes, I think France wanted to avoid having the ARM flipped in the initial ground strikes. I agree about the MECH, it's usually my first build with France.

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RE: JJ(Axis) PBEM AAR - 12/28/2017 3:01:53 PM   
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If France has only one unit in Strasburg I like to use ENG and break line there with massive ground support.


Foreshadowing.

This is exactly the attack that Germany will attempt in the first impulse of MJ 40.

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RE: JJ(Axis) PBEM AAR - 12/28/2017 3:53:00 PM   
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If France has only one unit in Strasburg I like to use ENG and break line there with massive ground support.


Foreshadowing.

This is exactly the attack that Germany will attempt in the first impulse of MJ 40.

Good luck, roll high

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RE: JJ(Axis) PBEM AAR - 12/28/2017 7:01:00 PM   
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If France has only one unit in Strasburg I like to use ENG and break line there with massive ground support.

Foreshadowing.
This is exactly the attack that Germany will attempt in the first impulse of MJ 40.

Good luck, roll high


Thanks. This game is already in SO 40 so MJ has come and gone. I'm posting behind the game progress. The MJ turn happened a week or two ago.

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RE: JJ(Axis) PBEM AAR - 1/1/2018 2:19:26 PM   
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40 MJ i1:
Italy took a combined and threw out subs into fairly unprotected CSV & CVB sz's. Again IT rolls were not able to locate allied convoy lines - something that would continue through JA 40 as well. IT and GE also flew a FTR2 and 2 NAV into W Med but failed to find cp's & the CV's in 3 box as well.




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40 MJ i1:
GE launched a row of 3 GS against the BEF and French line west of Brussels.
The 4-2 ART striking farthest north was doubled by an o-chit on Guderian.

Luck didn't go the way of the Germans as the only units flipped were:
CW MIL on N Sea coast
CW 2-4 AT W of Brussels
FR 5-4 INF SW of Brussels





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RE: JJ(Axis) PBEM AAR - 1/1/2018 2:41:46 PM   
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40 MJ i1:
GE decided to use a land o-chit on Guderian and to launch 2 attacks:
#1 on the east-most hex of Maginot using the ENG to allow the powerful 9-4 GE corp to attack across the fort line.
#2 a blitz on the French held hex SW of Brussels to begin to drive a wedge between France and the BEF.

GE could have tried for more but the philosophy was to conduct only high odds efficient attacks in the hope of a long MJ 40 turn. These initial attacks if successful could give the Wermacht leverage for the next impulse against the Maginot and unhinge the combined allied defensive line in Belgium. Because of the 2 flipped BEF units it would put the BEF in a difficult position. If they fall back, they have to leave the 2 flipped units to be destroyed. If they stay forward they begin to form an exposed northern salient and can't help the French to form a strong line 1 hex back. There was unfortunately no chance of a breakthrough since the allied line was 2 hexes deep and powerful.

Guderian was positioned in Cologne so that he could be out of the way of operations next impulse but also be close enough to use his doubled re-org to unflip as many units as possible if any flipped during the 2 attacks.




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40 MJ i1:
The attacks were both successful and Guderian unflipped a couple of planes since no attacking units were flipped.




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40 MJ i3:
Here's a peek at the position in the med at the start of MJ i3. The Italians have advanced to Algiers but don't have supply to assault because the Regia Aeronautica and Luftwaffe are unable to find in W Med to clear out the British CV's so that the IT TRS can safely sail. Sardinia is cleared of allies and an assault will be prepared on Corsica. the French-Italian border is stagnant but some French forces are tied down there at least.

The GE/IT naval air contingent in W Med finally finds the CV task force and a fierce air battle ensuses. The IT Gabbiano is aborted back to Genoa but the cvp wing based on HMS Courageous is destroyed. Good shooting by RN AA gunners wards off any damage from Axis naval bombers. A 2nd round of searches fails to find.




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40 MJ i3:
After the o-chit here is the position at the beginning of Axis i3 on the west front.

The BEF has used Gort positioned behind Lille to reorg both flipped CW units in Belgium (MIL + 2-4 AT).

Continuing the approach of launching relatively high odds attacks with HQ's nearby to re-org in case of flips, the Wermacht plans 2 attacks:
- an assault on Metz preceded by ground strikes from 2 air wings and
- an assault on the BEF preceded by a smaller Luftwaffe bombardment.

French and British planes rise to intercept the bombers. The Wermacht Me-109 is shot down by spitfires but over Metz the best FR FTR, the MS-406 goes down in flames. Ground strikes on the British are wildly successful (both flipped) but not as successful over Metz where 1 of the 2 defending units is flipped.

An attack is also launched on Corsica and 2 in China: Changsha and Chengchow.




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Led by paradropping Fallschirmjagers, the attack on Metz succeeds with the only disorganized GE unit being von Leeb who was committed to the assault on the city.




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The attack on the BEF in Belgium succeeds without losses and no flips.




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The attack on Corsica including Italian troops debarked into Olbia by an Italian transport and supported by the guns of the Regia Marina sailing in the It coast seazone destroys the French division defending the straits and a powerful army of Italians and Germans surge across onto the island of Napoleon's birth.




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