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Slow animations and processing

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I know the engine is quite old but the animation part and general processing is soooooo slow. There was an option in Tiller Games for fast processing and it was a big difference.
I have set the animation to 1 and 0 but still. I mean in Heroes 3 they have solved it and one could have seen slowmo or quite rapid movement.

Also the fonts are too small. Is there a possibility to change their size without tweaking GUI?
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can you please provide us with a report so we can check over your system and error logs to double check all is fine and well, thanks

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zakblood
Thanks for such a quick reaction.

I don't know is this is normal but the game seems no faster than TOAOW3. And the animations are a bit slower. If this is with the engine I guess not much can be done.

Apologies if I was not clear enough in my previous post.
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tm.asp?m=4379197

screen size can be altered to 4k, and also all fonts, will link that one as well

tm.asp?m=4379532

just one of about 5 or 6 of the font's posts as most are doing custom fonts resizing now btw, good luck and no worries, it's all here, just atm not in all one place, but hopefully one days, it will all gets sorted and re done into one[;)]
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I made a post regarding to this but just wanted to bring it up again.

There are some options in the Player Options --> Animation Timer. If you set it up to "0' then it speeds up things a bit but still animations are slow. What I have discovered is:
1. You start the game and start the scenarion and then you set it up to "1".
2. You need to exit the game entirely.
3. Start the game, load the scenario and change it to "0".

Oddly it does work for me and speeds the movement by 10-15% than without doing it. But sometimes it does not work and I have to play one turn. Think the engine is so old that there are some overdoes in the code.
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I made a post regarding to this but just wanted to bring it up again.

There are some options in the Player Options --> Animation Timer. If you set it up to "0' then it speeds up things a bit but still animations are slow. What I have discovered is:
1. You start the game and start the scenarion and then you set it up to "1".
2. You need to exit the game entirely.
3. Start the game, load the scenario and change it to "0".

Oddly it does work for me and speeds the movement by 10-15% than without doing it. But sometimes it does not work and I have to play one turn. Think the engine is so old that there are some overdoes in the code.
Chris,

you got the latest beta, 4.0.1.23 installed, that's a roger, check?
If not, do so. What about your system specs? More or less than 4GB RAM?

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Yup 4.0.1.23 installed. Still sluggish as hell Sir.

i4590k with 8gb and 480gb SSD on mlc so the rig should not be an issue ;)

Do I need to do anything? Like restart the game (I'm playing FITE2).
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Yup 4.0.1.23 installed. Still sluggish as hell Sir.

i4590k with 8gb and 480gb SSD on mlc so the rig should not be an issue ;)

Do I need to do anything? Like restart the game (I'm playing FITE2).
Well... no need to start FitE from scratch; besides you can still save your actual turn (if you play against the PO that is).

What's you video/screen resolution? There's a thread about to max out display up to 4K. Concerning the 'sluggish' behaviour, I take it you refer to the PO/AI movement?

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4k but it was exactly the same in FHD.
The movement of units in general. Especially grouped.

Many thanks for the help Oberst_Klink

PS. I cannot find this thread. By any chance do you have a link?
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ORIGINAL: gliz2

4k but it was exactly the same in FHD.
The movement of units in general. Especially grouped.

Many thanks for the help Oberst_Klink

PS. I cannot find this thread. By any chance do you have a link?
4K thread : tm.asp?m=4379197

If you run a high resolution, you can use the scaling entry in the Opart4.ini, see the thread.

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I think we are not on the same page here.

It's not about the scaling. It's about movement of units :)

I know which settings are responsible for the Animation Movement and I played around with them. Went to "0" and CapsLock on and it looks that you cannot make it any faster. It's just sluggish and reminds me of ol' Frogger game (looks kinda like jumping frog).

It makes no different between FHD monitor or 4k one.

Maybe this is limitation of 1996 engine but I know in Tiller's games movement of troops is much much quicker.
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ORIGINAL: gliz2

I think we are not on the same page here.

It's not about the scaling. It's about movement of units :)

I know which settings are responsible for the Animation Movement and I played around with them. Went to "0" and CapsLock on and it looks that you cannot make it any faster. It's just sluggish and reminds me of ol' Frogger game (looks kinda like jumping frog).

It makes no different between FHD monitor or 4k one.

Maybe this is limitation of 1996 engine but I know in Tiller's games movement of troops is much much quicker.
Well, I got a cr*ppy dual-core CPU, 4GB RAM... OK, I am known not being a monster scenario 'fan-boy'... but... well.. what else could one try? The Opar4_Slow? Or what about the entry in the Opart4.ini: multicpu=Y. Another thing... did you disable the pesky tool tips?

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I appriciate your help. Tried almost all things. Changed now as per your suggestions but no improvement. I guess this is engine's limitation.

Shame as when you have to move groups of units this takes a lot of time for nothing :(
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Oberst_Klink

I appriciate your help. Tried almost all things. Changed now as per your suggestions but no improvement. I guess this is engine's limitation.

Shame as when you have to move groups of units this takes a lot of time for nothing :(
But this behaviour is odd... that the delay is so long and 'jumpy' when you as a player want to move a stack... I thought the AI's moves take ages, which they shouldn't either. I got to sign off for today, well, it's already tomorrow. Maybe some of the other lads got an idea. Alas... please dump your DxDiag.log here for somebody to have a look at it; maybe I have missed something.

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One mans good enough is another mans intolerably slow. Some sort of video to show exactly how slow the movement is for you would help the rest of us be able to tell if something is slowing you down inordinately; or if you just have a much faster threshold for the minimum acceptable playback speed than the average person here.
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Do you feel the game is slow in every scenario or just in FITE2?
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Here's the vid
https://gfycat.com/WearyTediousCottonmouth

First it's with no CapsLock then with.

As you can see it's quite slow and notice the instant undo action (I know it is suppose to be faster but it's instant and the movement of units is sluggish).

PS. I don't mind the lenght of turns for general processing. But to move a stack of units by 10 hexes should not be taking 12 seconds :P

PS2. Also that black screens are inconsistent, sometimes have none of them and sometimes I do have them.
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ORIGINAL: gliz2

Here's the vid
https://gfycat.com/WearyTediousCottonmouth

First it's with no CapsLock then with.

As you can see it's quite slow and notice the instant undo action (I know it is suppose to be faster but it's instant and the movement of units is sluggish).

PS. I don't mind the lenght of turns for general processing. But to move a stack of units by 10 hexes should not be taking 12 seconds :P

PS2. Also that black screens are inconsistent, sometimes have none of them and sometimes I do have them.
OK, Chris.

Let's see if using the 'classic defaults' and the 'tool-tip' settings (see screenshots) will finally solve it.

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I only have the following dialog:

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