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NORDIC CHANNEL: Orm and Mayhemizer - 8/23/2017 8:39:30 PM   
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Hello all,

As we play two games at the same time, we should always start our posts referring to game 1 or game 2.

Let's make some good plans and execute them just as planned!
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RE: NORDIC CHANNEL: Orm and Mayhemizer - 8/23/2017 8:50:26 PM   
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Would you mind if we use game 3 and game 4 instead? Might make things less confusing for an old geezer.

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RE: NORDIC CHANNEL: Orm and Mayhemizer - 8/23/2017 8:51:19 PM   
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Let's make some good plans and execute them just as planned!

Indeed.

Except that most plans do not survive contact with the enemy.

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RE: NORDIC CHANNEL: Orm and Mayhemizer - 8/23/2017 8:52:31 PM   
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Plenty of plans and ideas already. To bad that I have to wait ages to put them into action. Because, sadly, they do not involve France.

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RE: NORDIC CHANNEL: Orm and Mayhemizer - 8/23/2017 8:55:21 PM   
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Would you mind if we use game 3 and game 4 instead? Might make things less confusing for an old geezer.


We named games as UK vs Nordic 1 and 2. What ever is less confusing works for me, we can call them game 3 and 4. But I bet I will be confused anyway 4 games might be too much for me.


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RE: NORDIC CHANNEL: Orm and Mayhemizer - 8/23/2017 8:57:30 PM   
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Would you mind if we use game 3 and game 4 instead? Might make things less confusing for an old geezer.


We named games as UK vs Nordic 1 and 2. What ever is less confusing works for me, we can call them game 3 and 4. But I bet I will be confused anyway 4 games might be too much for me.



You're right. How about Nord1 and Nord2?

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RE: NORDIC CHANNEL: Orm and Mayhemizer - 8/24/2017 3:38:22 AM   
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Would you mind if we use game 3 and game 4 instead? Might make things less confusing for an old geezer.


We named games as UK vs Nordic 1 and 2. What ever is less confusing works for me, we can call them game 3 and 4. But I bet I will be confused anyway 4 games might be too much for me.



You're right. How about Nord1 and Nord2?

That sounds good!

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RE: NORDIC CHANNEL: Orm and Mayhemizer - 8/24/2017 8:58:27 PM   
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Italian set up does not indicate attack to Egypt. I placed one TRS to transport Wavell to France.

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RE: NORDIC CHANNEL: Orm and Mayhemizer - 8/25/2017 10:06:26 AM   
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It would indeed be nice to have two British HQs in France.

France would also, eventually, like to turn over the defence of North Africa to CW. If CW could send troops to defend Tunisia and Algeria then that would be much appreciated. Although troops for BEF, of course, has priority.

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RE: NORDIC CHANNEL: Orm and Mayhemizer - 8/25/2017 10:25:42 AM   
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How about the (secret experimental and risky) plan with CW forces? Can I do it if opportunity is given, or do I send all units to Belgium/France?

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RE: NORDIC CHANNEL: Orm and Mayhemizer - 8/25/2017 10:42:55 AM   
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Nord 1

I prefer to play conservatively in the opening. So my vote is for the main plain to be to send the all units to Belgium/France.

However, with that said, we should not scrap the secret and experimental plan, hereby codenamed Calypso, rather be prepared to change to plan Calypso should the opportunity arise and the omens be favourable.

Edit: For clarification. You can always do what you think is best. I will offer suggestions, or ideas, and I will not be annoyed if they are ignored. However, it is always good if we both are informed about what is going to happen.

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RE: NORDIC CHANNEL: Orm and Mayhemizer - 8/25/2017 1:22:29 PM   
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That is my standard strategy, bring lots of troops to France and watch how Germany uses turn after turn or O-Chit after O-Chit trying to capture Paris

On the other hand Calypso is something I would like try if there is a good opportunity.

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RE: NORDIC CHANNEL: Orm and Mayhemizer - 8/25/2017 7:25:31 PM   
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I say go for Operation Calypso! I have reviewed this operation and think it would be fun and exciting.

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RE: NORDIC CHANNEL: Orm and Mayhemizer - 8/26/2017 1:50:58 PM   
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You can place Polish units. Place HQ and planes somewhere safe.

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RE: NORDIC CHANNEL: Orm and Mayhemizer - 8/26/2017 2:25:48 PM   
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Nord1

You can place Polish units. Place HQ and planes somewhere safe.

Ok.

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RE: NORDIC CHANNEL: Orm and Mayhemizer - 8/27/2017 6:58:24 PM   
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Nord1:

That didn't go very well. Poland crushed in the first impulse.

Although, at the same time I am a little pleased as the setup worked as planned. With a bit of luck then it could have cost Germany dearly. No way to really save Poland against such overwhelming German force. Especially when saving the Polish HQ.

Germany had no cheap loss units in the attacks so bad die rolls could have cost Germany up to 10 BPs of units.

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RE: NORDIC CHANNEL: Orm and Mayhemizer - 8/27/2017 6:59:44 PM   
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Nord 2:

Do we have any plan for the opening turn except to reduce the Polish forces? Any thoughts about Italy?

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RE: NORDIC CHANNEL: Orm and Mayhemizer - 8/27/2017 7:42:43 PM   
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Nord 2:

No planes yet, except standard Fall Gelb or maybe few extra units for Poland.



I believe all games are waiting for me, so I start in order from Game 1.

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RE: NORDIC CHANNEL: Orm and Mayhemizer - 8/27/2017 7:44:53 PM   
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If Italians keeps units in southern front, France need to keep units there too. What is your plans with Italy in general, do you let Allies DoW on you, or do you DoW if/when they bring CV's to West Med? I'm ready for everything

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RE: NORDIC CHANNEL: Orm and Mayhemizer - 8/27/2017 8:46:23 PM   
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That was a nice impulse from Axis.

CW plans is to take naval and send only class 1 CV to West Med. Looks like Italy waiting Ark Royal to West Med, but she will wait in Gibraltar.

I send bigger fleet to North Sea and try to shoot down that fighter.

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RE: NORDIC CHANNEL: Orm and Mayhemizer - 8/27/2017 8:48:35 PM   
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Nord 1

That was a nice impulse from Axis.

CW plans is to take naval and send only class 1 CV to West Med. Looks like Italy waiting Ark Royal to West Med, but she will wait in Gibraltar.

I send bigger fleet to North Sea and try to shoot down that fighter.

Wait a minute.

Do we plan to DOW Italy here?

Otherwise I do not think we should send ships into the Med where they can be surprised.

I wouldn't mind to wait a while and see if we can boost US entry by a Italian DOW.

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RE: NORDIC CHANNEL: Orm and Mayhemizer - 8/27/2017 8:53:26 PM   
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Nord1:

You will port strike Kiel on the surprise?

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RE: NORDIC CHANNEL: Orm and Mayhemizer - 8/27/2017 8:55:26 PM   
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That was a nice impulse from Axis.

CW plans is to take naval and send only class 1 CV to West Med. Looks like Italy waiting Ark Royal to West Med, but she will wait in Gibraltar.

I send bigger fleet to North Sea and try to shoot down that fighter.

Wait a minute.

Do we plan to DOW Italy here?

Otherwise I do not think we should send ships into the Med where they can be surprised.

I wouldn't mind to wait a while and see if we can boost US entry by a Italian DOW.


I'm not yet playing, just planning. I plan to send weak CV with CVP that has 2 air to sea factors. Escorted by 1-2 old BB's.

Let's see if Italy declares war. If not, let's see what they do. We don't have to declare war.

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RE: NORDIC CHANNEL: Orm and Mayhemizer - 8/27/2017 8:58:02 PM   
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French reserve placement.

Two GARR in Strasbourg
4-3 in Metz
5-3 in Lille

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RE: NORDIC CHANNEL: Orm and Mayhemizer - 8/27/2017 8:59:15 PM   
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Nord 1

That was a nice impulse from Axis.

CW plans is to take naval and send only class 1 CV to West Med. Looks like Italy waiting Ark Royal to West Med, but she will wait in Gibraltar.

I send bigger fleet to North Sea and try to shoot down that fighter.

Wait a minute.

Do we plan to DOW Italy here?

Otherwise I do not think we should send ships into the Med where they can be surprised.

I wouldn't mind to wait a while and see if we can boost US entry by a Italian DOW.


I'm not yet playing, just planning. I plan to send weak CV with CVP that has 2 air to sea factors. Escorted by 1-2 old BB's.

Let's see if Italy declares war. If not, let's see what they do. We don't have to declare war.


Ok. I understand. It is bait. Lets hope we do not lose it.

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RE: NORDIC CHANNEL: Orm and Mayhemizer - 8/27/2017 9:00:31 PM   
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Nord1:

You will port strike Kiel on the surprise?


I think not. Germany has AA gun there (AA total 22, lowest of 3 for 1 plane). If I use air moves now to send Polish planes to safe, I can do something else next impulse.

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RE: NORDIC CHANNEL: Orm and Mayhemizer - 8/27/2017 9:10:41 PM   
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Nord1:

You will port strike Kiel on the surprise?


I think not. Germany has AA gun there (AA total 22, lowest of 3 for 1 plane). If I use air moves now to send Polish planes to safe, I can do something else next impulse.

Not sure how you counted that. Or I counted wrong.

My count is:
13 from ships
12 from AA gun
Equals 25 and that is halved to 13 because of surprise.

So that is lowest die out of 5. And that use up the 4 surprise points that you are guaranteed to get so that the AA is negated entirely. On average you should get at least a D result on a ship on your choosing. It is nice to begin whittle down the Axis navy as soon as possible. Less units for them to cause mischief.


Edit: CW has three air moves. Two to get rid of the Polish planes and may I suggest that the last one is used to port strike their fleet?

Although USSR would like the Polish AC gone this impulse since we plan to advance into Poland next impulse.

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RE: NORDIC CHANNEL: Orm and Mayhemizer - 8/28/2017 4:14:05 AM   
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Nord1:

You will port strike Kiel on the surprise?


I think not. Germany has AA gun there (AA total 22, lowest of 3 for 1 plane). If I use air moves now to send Polish planes to safe, I can do something else next impulse.

Not sure how you counted that. Or I counted wrong.

My count is:
13 from ships
12 from AA gun
Equals 25 and that is halved to 13 because of surprise.

So that is lowest die out of 5. And that use up the 4 surprise points that you are guaranteed to get so that the AA is negated entirely. On average you should get at least a D result on a ship on your choosing. It is nice to begin whittle down the Axis navy as soon as possible. Less units for them to cause mischief.


Edit: CW has three air moves. Two to get rid of the Polish planes and may I suggest that the last one is used to port strike their fleet?

Although USSR would like the Polish AC gone this impulse since we plan to advance into Poland next impulse.


Yeah, I counted it wrong and forgot half it.

CW takes naval, if they have 3 air moves CW goes for port strike.

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RE: NORDIC CHANNEL: Orm and Mayhemizer - 8/28/2017 5:51:26 AM   
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Nord 1:

CW has indeed three air moves on Naval. I've checked. And I played CW a lot lately.

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RE: NORDIC CHANNEL: Orm and Mayhemizer - 8/28/2017 6:00:45 AM   
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Nord 1:

I might be doing close to nothing with France. No naval moves, no ground strikes, no strat bombing, no rail, and land moves, and no reorganization. Nothing feels pressing enough.

I am thinking that the TRS should stay for a while in Syria so it wont be a target at sea.

Sending a CA to the Baltic Sea seems less important as well when Germany has no CPs there. It could sail there in wait for CPs but then it has to risk combat before any CPs are there. And is it strong enough to handle air escorted CPs without the surprise?

And, as there might be no threat against France this turn, I am hesitant to reorganize any units. That way saving one oil. And the only fun thing for the French bomber might be strat bombing but I dislike using it this early when I want to try avoiding reorganizing it.

Assistance and suggestions are welcome. Because it feels bad doing nothing. And even worse when it is a surprise impulse.

Thank you for listening.

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