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windows 10 compatibility testing part 2 - 8/23/2017 2:14:39 PM   
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Windows 10 Home Single Language 64-bit (10.0, Build 15063) (15063.rs2_release.170317-1834)

creators update version, clean install

User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 144 DPI (150 percent)

Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: TOSHIBA-TV
Monitor Id: TSB0108
Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60.000Hz)
Output Type: HDMI

normal test pc used, same hardware one as the other windows 10 tests
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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing part 2 - 8/23/2017 2:17:39 PM   
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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing part 2 - 8/23/2017 2:17:44 PM   
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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing part 2 - 8/23/2017 2:18:16 PM   
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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing part 2 - 8/23/2017 2:18:20 PM   
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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing part 2 - 8/23/2017 2:18:27 PM   
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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing part 2 - 8/23/2017 2:18:32 PM   
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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing part 2 - 8/23/2017 2:18:38 PM   
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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing part 2 - 8/23/2017 2:18:43 PM   
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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing part 2 - 8/23/2017 2:18:49 PM   
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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing part 2 - 8/23/2017 2:18:54 PM   
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loads in full screen in my settings, at 1920x1080, and now i'm going to alter it as shown to run in windows mode and check that also, no shortcut files have been altered yet, or may not need to be used either

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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing part 2 - 8/23/2017 2:30:32 PM   
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this is why i don't use full screen mode, game works fine until you alt tab in and out of it, as once focus is lost, going back in game doesn't recover, so windows mode next and alt tab in and out tested again





so far starting video works and played in full screen mode and now in windows mode also, so not a video issue for me anyway on my hardware

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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing part 2 - 8/23/2017 2:32:37 PM   
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12 video works fine in both modes as shown





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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing part 2 - 8/23/2017 2:32:55 PM   
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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing part 2 - 8/23/2017 2:34:32 PM   
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14, windows mode in this version of windows seems to be a bit smaller than the last one, so now will try some settings in full screen mode and alter shortcut to suit my desktop and screen size and DPI used etc





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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing part 2 - 8/23/2017 2:48:02 PM   
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so here we go again and go back into the game, and set back to full screen and then exit to set that screen size





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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing part 2 - 8/23/2017 2:56:24 PM   
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so for me full screen is better, but you can't alt tab in or out in this mode, but looks better and needs no alteration of the shortcut to work in this mode either other than what's shown, while it works without it, for me it's better and will in the help more, you can try compatibility mode for Vista, as that's the age of the game, gives more permissions and time for things to run etc, but for me and my testing, unless you run into issues, you don't have to use it





red used yellow optional only if you have any errors

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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing part 2 - 8/23/2017 3:04:22 PM   
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I get black borders on both sides in full Screen

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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing part 2 - 8/23/2017 3:10:46 PM   
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then something is in your settings that aren't in mine, so lets looks and see what you need to alter to make it work better shall we?

How to get a DirectX Diagnostic file:

1. click on "START"
2. click "run"
3. type in "dxdiag" and click "OK"
4. check through the tabs and perform all tests
5. click "Save all Information..." and save the text file to a location of your choice

We prefer that DxDiag files be posted as message attachments rather than pasted into the body of the post.

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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing part 2 - 8/23/2017 3:12:45 PM   
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on error i get is either when i alt tab in and out and back in again as shown, and the screen size in windows mode is smaller than the last version i tested with by quite a few %, last one was maybe 98% with this one being maybe 1/3rd screen loss, so rather a larger %, but last time i was on default DPI of 96 with this version on the same card using 144DPI, and the only thing iv'e changed is a monitor, from a 29" to a 40", needed something better for my eyes as i sit in front for too long.

mind you i have 6 pc's and 8 monitors and 3 laptops so have a few to test with.

creators update version now, last one was the anniversary edition etc of windows 10, same hardware mind you on both, same card etc etc

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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing part 2 - 8/23/2017 3:19:10 PM   
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Okay it works in windows mode, no problem!
My issue is my resolution is (4K) 3840 X 2160 The window is very small at this resolution. Is there any way to adjust the window size to make it larger like in War in the Pacific using a shortcut?

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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing part 2 - 8/23/2017 3:37:38 PM   
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only option i can find to add to a shortcut is to make it windowed which helps you little like i mentioned before, the size your running atm was never around at the time of the game, so to support it fully other than in using windows mode is kind of hard without a rewrite which i'd guess 99% sure won't be happening either.

i'll ask around the developers of this as still testing for them on other games, and see if anything was ever added or amended or altered to suit a display, but tbh only think for now is this, run as full screen and exit from the game and then alter the shortcut to this, and lets see if that gets rid of the black line and also displays better, it's only a guess as unless i have the hardware the same, it's hard to see which or what settings to chose and use and which not to, so it's guess work and kind of firing in the dark stuff, as what works on one game may or may not work on another i'm sorry to say, so one post won't sort all

windows scaling is as much of an error with window 10 as it is with hardware, as one may work with another one not doing, for some software is better than others, with even some drivers being supported better than others, so it's a dice shake at times to support

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4330567

same problems with other games here as well so your not alone either, overall numbers are still very low atm




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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing part 2 - 8/23/2017 3:43:26 PM   
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How would I alter the shortcut to what exactly? what settings?

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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing part 2 - 8/23/2017 3:44:18 PM   
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oh bum, i forgot to even add one, my bad





first one is running the game is compatibility mode, so windows 10 thinks it more like Vista, eg longer time to think, long time for cpu and memory related tasks to complete, so less hangs etc, as windows 10 expects some tasks to complete quicker so sometimes hangs a game when it's not needed.

reduced color is an old one to support games which don't use a 4k pallet etc, or the full range on what a more later game would etc.

over ride high DPI, there's a few settings in here, each one does a different thing, so again it's a crap shoot on knowing which one works better with a given app / game or program, it's makes higher DPI use be less of an issue and almost alters the scaling to be less aggressive and more user friendly to put it another way.

windows 10 uses some background settings to alter fonts and icons that can cause errors on older games, disabling these makes it more compatible in some game, kind of like turning off the user overlay in steam, as that's also a adding tool that doesn't always work well with older games.

running as admin, just gives a higher permission value to the game or program selected.


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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing part 2 - 8/23/2017 3:47:36 PM   
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Okay

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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing part 2 - 8/23/2017 3:54:10 PM   
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that's 8 settings with 5 shown, making a large combo of options to try to suit a given game or hardware, so it's not as simple as this one will work for you either to try, it could be anyone of them in any combination i'm sorry to say, one may work on one user and the next comes along and says on the same sort of hardware and game it doesn't work for them, so another combo is needed

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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing part 2 - 8/23/2017 4:08:48 PM   
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A No Go on the full-screen Borders. The window is larger now and not tearing with the settings you just gave me :-)

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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing part 2 - 8/23/2017 4:24:14 PM   
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so a part improvement, if i had the hardware in front of me i'd just sit and go through each and every combo of settings until one worked better, as atm it's one step forward at a time, and maybe one step back if one goes wrong, so makes sure you make notes on which ones help and which don't etc

how much of the boarder less? a good % or just a small part etc

you may never get a full 100% screen with your settings as they are high end and also a higher than normal DPI, so may not scale much better, could you use it now with how it is?

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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing part 2 - 8/23/2017 4:46:01 PM   
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next one to try and i'll leave you to it is back to windowed again with the same settings used, so load game and alter settings to widows mode and exit, leave shortcut and game alteration how it is, then restart game and see if the display screen size in windowed mode is larger or smaller than what you had in full sized etc, as it may or may not be larger but worth a try all the same, now i must get back to testing so i leave you with it, good luck, and off in a few days so won't be here for a week or so

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RE: windows 10 compatibility testing part 2 - 8/23/2017 4:51:48 PM   
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so a part improvement, if i had the hardware in front of me i'd just sit and go through each and every combo of settings until one worked better, as atm it's one step forward at a time, and maybe one step back if one goes wrong, so makes sure you make notes on which ones help and which don't etc

how much of the boarder less? a good % or just a small part etc

you may never get a full 100% screen with your settings as they are high end and also a higher than normal DPI, so may not scale much better, could you use it now with how it is?

Considerable on both side of the game, No, I won't play the game that way.

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