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Wedge Donovan Wins the War: Apbarog(A) vs Aurorus(J) DBB-B - 8/9/2017 11:02:29 PM   
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Here's the background on my upcoming game against Aurorus.

Latest AE Official Patch ver. 1.01.24 25 December 2014 (I think)
Latest Beta Patch ver 1126b 09/17/2016 (game version will show
1.8.11.26b Sep 17 2016)
Big Babes_B_AEScen28_V15.zip
Babes and Extended Map Art Hexes 05_12_14.zip
Babes Extended Map Data with SL 05_12_14.zip

These are the game settings requested:
Fog of War - ON
Advanced Weather - ON
Allied Damage Control - ON
PDU - OFF
Historical First Turn - OFF
Dec 7 Surprise - ON
Realistic USN Torps - OFF
Realistic R&D - Aurorus will choose
No Unit Withdrawals - OFF
Reinforcements - +/- 60 days
Combat reports - ON
Auto Sub Ops - OFF
TF Move Radius - OFF
Plane Move Radius - OFF
Set all facilities to expand - OFF
Auto Upgrade ships and air - OFF
Accept Air and Ground replacements - OFF
Turn cycle - 1

Here are the proposed house rules:
- PPs paid to change theatres (Japanese Thai units to cross into Burma)
- No strategic bombing until 6/43
- No turn 1 multiple port strikes from carriers
- No 4 engine bomber restrictions. (Aurorus request)
- No restrictions on night bombing. (Aurorus request)
- Manchurian and Korean command units may enter Russia should a war
begin with Russia. (Aurorus request)
- On turn 1, Allies can not form new task forces, but may move existing
TFs (like Force Z). Allies won't do much on turn 1, not knowing that the
war was about to start. No ground movement. No air unit movement or
change of orders. Air units on carriers at sea may change their orders.
Nothing will be done that could be construed as knowing that the war was
about to begin.
-No tiny paratroop drops to take empty bases.
-Amphibious landings only at bases.
- Mersing invasion on turn 2 is ok. Reasonable use of turn 1 invasion
locations. (Aurorus request)
- Sub reaction ranges set to 0.

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RE: Wedge Donovan Wins the War: Apbarog(A) vs Aurorus(J... - 8/10/2017 4:11:25 AM   
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Aurorus will be starting work on the Japanese first turn. I'm looking forward to getting back into a game. I will be detailing the war day by day, much as I did in my last AAR.

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RE: Wedge Donovan Wins the War: Apbarog(A) vs Aurorus(J... - 8/10/2017 6:22:31 AM   
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I like the name of this AAR. Good luck!

Cheers,
CC

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RE: Wedge Donovan Wins the War: Apbarog(A) vs Aurorus(J... - 8/10/2017 1:04:40 PM   
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Happy to see that you've started another AAR. Will be following with interest!

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RE: Wedge Donovan Wins the War: Apbarog(A) vs Aurorus(J... - 8/10/2017 6:00:46 PM   
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Looking forward to this one Apbarog! Thoroughly your last PBEM AAR!

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RE: Wedge Donovan Wins the War: Apbarog(A) vs Aurorus(J... - 8/11/2017 12:37:18 AM   
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Good luck and have fun looking forward to your AAR.

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RE: Wedge Donovan Wins the War: Apbarog(A) vs Aurorus(J... - 8/11/2017 2:36:31 AM   
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Thanks for the good wishes. Aurorus and I have exchanged a test turn, to make sure that we've gotten the right versions of everything installed. No error messages, so things look good. He will now be starting work on the big first turn for the Japanese. He has as much time as he needs to complete his work. Maybe a turn next week.

It feels kind of like opening day of your favorite sport, or the day before your fantasy draft. Looking forward to the game.

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RE: Wedge Donovan Wins the War: Apbarog(A) vs Aurorus(J... - 8/18/2017 2:42:30 AM   
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I quickly did my work on the first turn, which is plotting for this non-historical start. The only work to be done, with our house rules, is moving existing TFs. I chose not to change any orders for sub TFs. I don't know that war is imminent, and shouldn't be hunting targets they don't know about yet. The moves I made with my surface TFs were reasonable and not aggressive. Again, I don't know that the war is coming.

Notable plots include the British 18th Division and other Indian reinforcements already on ships are going to Ceylon, at least temporarily. CV Lexington will move to within air transfer range of Wake. CV Enterprise will move to a point near Johnston Island.

I wished luck to my opponent Aurorus, and that my hope is that we both have an enjoyable game.

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RE: Wedge Donovan Wins the War: Apbarog(A) vs Aurorus(J... - 8/18/2017 5:14:53 AM   
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Apbarog, can you do the following in DBB-B?


In DaBigBabes C, if you withdraw the following Allied air groups on December 8, 1941, you get:

19th BG (B-17) in San Francisco – 26 points
7th BG (B-17) in San Francisco - 68 points
Hudson Det – Rabaul - 24 points
Empire boats – Moresby - 42 points
Hudson detachment – Sydney - 23 points
Beaufort recon – Kuantan - 12 points

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RE: Wedge Donovan Wins the War: Apbarog(A) vs Aurorus(J... - 8/18/2017 5:52:51 AM   
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Hi Yaab. I'll look at those withdrawals when I get the first turn file back, hopefully tomorrow.

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RE: Wedge Donovan Wins the War: Apbarog(A) vs Aurorus(J... - 8/18/2017 5:53:36 AM   
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7 Dec 41 - Analysis of the replay only

Aurorus sent the replay file to me as soon as he had it. I was certainly in for a surprise. No attack at Pearl Harbor. The port at Manila was bombed heavily by land-based air. Many ships and subs damaged. A few sunk. Airfields at Manila and Clark bombed. No Philippine landings yet.

The big push is Singapore. Many carriers east of Singapore. Can't tell from the replay if all of KB is here, but enough of it is. The port at Singapore was heavily bombed. Many ships damaged and sunk. In my last game, I evacuated over 20 units from Singapore to India. Nothing will escape in this game. I'd left a Brit CL at Singapore, by itself in a task force, and it was sunk. Force Z ran to the south at normal speed. It ended up 5 hexes from what I'll call KB. Lots of carrier bombers went after Singapore's port, but some torpedo planes attacked Force Z. Repulse was sunk. I believe that Prince of Wales was hit by just one torpedo. I hope that is the case. Many torpedo planes missed the battleship. Some went after the destroyer there, and missed. So, a consolation prize "may" be having Prince of Wales escape.

The port at Georgetown was hit hard, sinking many if not all of the transport ships that start in port there. Malaysian airfields hit hard. I did get good hits on 2 xAKs unloading at Kuantan (I believe), with torpedo planes carrying bombs. A good number of enemy troops were lost on these ships.

The port at Hong Kong was hit hard also, again sinking most if not all of the ships in the port.

Our house rule prohibiting carrier aircraft from attacking more than one port did not prevent land-based aircraft from hitting many ports. There's a lot of Allied ships that start in port in an non-historical start, that would survive turn 1 of an historical start. Should the house rule be more restrictive? I don't know. I accept things as they are. It does modify my options. I liked sneaking fuel out of Hong Kong into nearby Chinese ports with the cargo ships that start there. And I didn't anticipate so many subs damaged and destroyed at Manila from land-based aircraft. They survive the historical start and escape on turn 2. But this is a different game.

A gaggle of enemy TFs were spotted a bit west of Sorong, on the northern tip of New Guinea. This looks to be a quick deep invasion. Not on turn 1, but coming soon. Maybe Ambon. Don't know yet.

My very, very early analysis is that this start is an aggressive one for the Japanese. KB (or alot of it) is near Singapore. A Palembang invasion could be immediate. A Mersing invasion on turn 2 is very likely. Singapore's airfield and port was already hit heavily, and no forts will be built if that continues. With KB there, it will continue. Singapore is going to fall much sooner than I'm used to seeing.

A quick capture of Singapore, with KB already here, not making the long travels from Hawaii, can speed up the Japanese timetable. An Indian move or an Australian move could happen. My early guess is that one of them WILL happen. This kind of opening isn't one done by a Japanese player wanting to expand in a historical manner and hold the line. I don't know how aggressive Aurorus' game is usually, but this seems aggressive to me.

I wonder about what to do with the troops at Singapore, and the ones to the north. A probable landing at Mersing would mean that most of the troops north can't get to Singapore. Maybe I need to come up with something different. Figuring that none of those troops will escape, maybe I can scatter them off-road, and force the Japanese to take the time to hunt them down. Just thinking.

And maybe a Philippine landing isn't coming in the near future. What can I do with that? It would be nice to sneak supply in. It looks like Aurorus' push south, west of New Guinea, is meant to cut off anything from Australia. More thinking required on this.

Pearl Harbor is unscathed. The slow battleships will be nice to have later in the war, but their utility is limited until then. They are nice torpedo targets until later. I will have an unexpected supply of aircraft at Pearl Harbor that usually gets destroyed. What to do with them? More thinking.

So, the game has begun. The wheels are turning, and I've only seen the replay. I'm looking forward to seeing the first turn file, and then looking at every single unit and base on the map, as well as starting the pilot training. And time to work on saving those damaged ships, one of my favorite parts of the game. Save the Prince of Wales!

It looks like it is going to be a challenging match. Very nice.

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RE: Wedge Donovan Wins the War: Apbarog(A) vs Aurorus(J... - 8/18/2017 1:19:30 PM   
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I would say your opponent is a master of first turn game engine.

I really like your attitude and approach for the first non-historical turn.

Good luck with your strategies and tactics!


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RE: Wedge Donovan Wins the War: Apbarog(A) vs Aurorus(J... - 8/18/2017 3:02:34 PM   
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..Other than skipping Pearl, the biggest VP and ship target available on turn one.

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RE: Wedge Donovan Wins the War: Apbarog(A) vs Aurorus(J... - 8/18/2017 3:46:35 PM   
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quote:

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..Other than skipping Pearl, the biggest VP and ship target available on turn one.


I would argue sinking Force Z is better than hitting Pearl. But we don't know if it was a success yet.

Still, there are a lot of planes at Pearl undamaged, which at a minimum means decent search.

And, it is the Carriers, POW, Repulse and Brooklyns that are important...Allies I think can lose almost every other starting ship and be just fine.

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RE: Wedge Donovan Wins the War: Apbarog(A) vs Aurorus(J... - 8/19/2017 6:39:11 AM   
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I've received the turn. As I'm doing my traditional around-the-map routine, I've only completed the area around Pearl Harbor to Midway to Wake to Johnston Island. With no Pearl Harbor attack, it's a matter of moving ships out of Pearl, deciding when and where to send them. I'm not rushing everything out immediately. Aurorus didn't attack Pearl Harbor, but he still started with all those subs in the area. I'll wait until the sub exodus occurs in a few days.

I've identified 3 Catalina squadrons and 3 P-40B squadrons that will leave Pearl Harbor and head towards Australia. The Cats will start their air transfer today. The fighters will wait a bit for adequate shipping and escorts.

I will be spending a lot of time on Saturday with the turn. Even that may not be enough to get everything done. Wonder how BB Prince of Wales is doing? So do I. But I'm sticking to my routine of doing area by area, so we'll just have to wonder until I get over to that area.

One lesson learned: in a non-historical start, Allied task forces don't move their full day's movement on turn 1. Maybe they just moved one phase. I expected to get a carrier within range of Wake to rescue the air unit there, but the carrier didn't move as far as expected.

So much to do. Every base, ship, ground and air unit, as well as cities with infrastructure, and all of the initial pilot training to set up. One day into the war and Singapore is being threatened! That's ok, we have Wedge Donovan. He's going to win the war for us.


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RE: Wedge Donovan Wins the War: Apbarog(A) vs Aurorus(J... - 8/19/2017 9:15:47 PM   
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8 Dec 41 - North of Australia

Looks like escorted invasion shipping. CVLs present. Headed to Ambon? We shall see shortly.

My work in the South Pacific is complete, as is Australia. Now work begins in earnest up through Java towards Singapore.




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RE: Wedge Donovan Wins the War: Apbarog(A) vs Aurorus(J... - 8/19/2017 11:19:18 PM   
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Good luck with all your toys in Pearl seems like all the BBs need upgrades sooner anyways, better to refit them without all that pesky damage.

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RE: Wedge Donovan Wins the War: Apbarog(A) vs Aurorus(J... - 8/20/2017 4:10:10 AM   
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8 Dec 41 - Area near Singapore

My biggest fear is that the southern enemy carriers will make a high speed run south. They can get all the way to be in range of Soerabaja. Remember, this is a non-historical start, and this is the first turn that any ships that starts in a port can leave. I know this, Aurorus knows this. There's a ton of ships that start in Java. The logical thing for me to do is to load them up with as much fuel and run away. If he thrusts south full speed today, he'll catch everything loading. Not much for him to fear, either. No Allied carriers. Some Dutch bombers, but against KB, that's insignificant. Aurorus so far has appeared to be one to maximize every opportunity, pushing the limits of what is possible in the game. Should I have just evacuated every Dutch port and run away empty? For the game, maybe I should have. Didn't feel right, and wanted to load them up. They SHOULD have time to exit, but they may not.

The only good thing that could happen if this disaster occurs is that a Mersing landing would be less protected. Maybe some of my Swordfish can get to a target.

Very nervous working on this turn. As it should be, for an Allied player at the very beginning of the war.




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RE: Wedge Donovan Wins the War: Apbarog(A) vs Aurorus(J... - 8/20/2017 10:15:44 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Yaab

Apbarog, can you do the following in DBB-B?


In DaBigBabes C, if you withdraw the following Allied air groups on December 8, 1941, you get:

19th BG (B-17) in San Francisco – 26 points
7th BG (B-17) in San Francisco - 68 points
Hudson Det – Rabaul - 24 points
Empire boats – Moresby - 42 points
Hudson detachment – Sydney - 23 points
Beaufort recon – Kuantan - 12 points



All of these are probably the same as what I'm seeing. Here's what I saw and why:

19 BG - was 23 points for me, but didn't included the DET unit in it
7 BG - didn't see the points message
Hudson Det Rabaul - yes, 24
Empire at Moresby - yes, 42
Hudson at Sydney - I saw 29, but there were 2 Hudson groups, I withdrew the other one first, and planes went to other, so yes, probably the same.
Beaufort recon Kuantan - yes, 12

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RE: Wedge Donovan Wins the War: Apbarog(A) vs Aurorus(J... - 8/20/2017 10:22:28 PM   
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8 Dec 41 - Summary

Allied ships sunk include:

BC Repulse - near Singapore
CL Danae - Singapore
2 xAPs - Georgetown
1 xAP - Singapore
2 xAKs - Georgetown
2 xAKLs - Georgetown
5 xAKs - Hong Kong
3 xAKLs - Hong Kong
2 xAKLs - Singapore
2 xAKLs - off the coast of Malaysia
1 AMc - Georgetown
1 AMc - Singapore
4 HDMLs - Georgetown

There are about a dozen ships still at Singapore, badly damaged, some burning. Ugly to watch, but certainly no Pearl Harbor.

The only Japanese ship lost was a midget sub at Lahaina, who didn't get the memo that he was going in alone.

Allied air losses were:

26 Buffalos
9 Blens
4 Hudsons
3 P-40E
3 Vildebeest

Japanese air losses were:

4 Vals
4 Kates
3 Bettys
2 Nates



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RE: Wedge Donovan Wins the War: Apbarog(A) vs Aurorus(J... - 8/21/2017 8:57:32 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: apbarog


quote:

ORIGINAL: Yaab

Apbarog, can you do the following in DBB-B?


In DaBigBabes C, if you withdraw the following Allied air groups on December 8, 1941, you get:

19th BG (B-17) in San Francisco – 26 points
7th BG (B-17) in San Francisco - 68 points
Hudson Det – Rabaul - 24 points
Empire boats – Moresby - 42 points
Hudson detachment – Sydney - 23 points
Beaufort recon – Kuantan - 12 points



All of these are probably the same as what I'm seeing. Here's what I saw and why:

19 BG - was 23 points for me, but didn't included the DET unit in it
7 BG - didn't see the points message
Hudson Det Rabaul - yes, 24
Empire at Moresby - yes, 42
Hudson at Sydney - I saw 29, but there were 2 Hudson groups, I withdrew the other one first, and planes went to other, so yes, probably the same.
Beaufort recon Kuantan - yes, 12



Check if the 7BG in San Fran has some detachment to attach. If so, attach it and then the withdraw button should be active.


Also:

Walrus in Hong Kong- fly to Kweilin (China), withdraw -22 points
Vildebeest in Hong Kong - fly to Kweilin (China), withdraw - 18 points

Both groups cannot be withdrawn in Hong Kong.

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RE: Wedge Donovan Wins the War: Apbarog(A) vs Aurorus(J... - 8/21/2017 5:54:41 PM   
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8 Dec 41 - More Detail

Enemy bombing results at Georgetown:

Allied Ships
xAK Wing Sang, Bomb hits 9, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Kelantan, Bomb hits 6, and is sunk
xAK Demosthenes, Bomb hits 13, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Raub, Bomb hits 6, and is sunk
AMc Medusa, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
xAKL Nam Yong, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk
HDML Pennigat, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
xAP Hong Siang, Bomb hits 18, and is sunk
HDML Pahalwan, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
HDML Panji, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
HDML Panglima, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk

Port hits 19
Port fuel hits 6
Port supply hits 1

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 26 damaged
Buffalo I: 6 destroyed on ground
Blenheim IF: 13 damaged
Blenheim IF: 2 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 33
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 65

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Enemy bombing results at Singapore:

Allied Ships
xAP Dominion Monarch, Bomb hits 2
CL Mauritius, Bomb hits 5
AG Pangkor, Bomb hits 1, on fire
TK Mobilfuel, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK Silverbeech, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AMC Kanimlba, Bomb hits 1
xAP Kepong, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAKL Tatung, Bomb hits 1, on fire
TK British Judge, Bomb hits 1
AM Toowoomba, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
DM Stronghold, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK Wulin, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Encounter, Bomb hits 1
AG Vyner Brooke, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAP Hong Kheng, Bomb hits 1

Port hits 4

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 22 damaged
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed on ground
Blenheim IV: 31 damaged
Blenheim IV: 3 destroyed on ground
Catalina I: 4 damaged
Hudson I: 3 damaged
S.19 Singapore III: 2 damaged
Vildebeest III: 8 damaged
Vildebeest III: 1 destroyed on ground
Swordfish I: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AMC Manoora, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires
CL Mauritius, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Lyemun, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
DD Jupiter, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAKL Larut, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
AMc Jerantut, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
DM Stronghold, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Tai Sang, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
xAP Kinta, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Encounter, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 18

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 7 damaged
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed on ground
Blenheim IV: 2 damaged
Vildebeest III: 3 damaged
Vildebeest III: 1 destroyed on ground
S.19 Singapore III: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied Ships
CL Danae, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CM Kung Wo, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
xAK Demodocus, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CL Mauritius, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Hong Kheng, Bomb hits 1, on fire
TK British Judge, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Isis, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 3
Port hits 5
*********************************
Enemy bombing results at Manila:

Allied aircraft losses
PBY-4 Catalina: 26 damaged
PBY-4 Catalina: 1 destroyed on ground
P-40E Warhawk: 24 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed on ground
SOC-1 Seagull: 9 damaged
SOC-1 Seagull: 1 destroyed on ground
Beech 18-S: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
SS Seadragon, Bomb hits 2, heavy damage
xAKL Sagoland, Bomb hits 1, on fire
SS Sealion, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
xAK Si Kiang, Bomb hits 1
SS Porpoise, Bomb hits 1
SS Shark, Bomb hits 1
AS Holland, Bomb hits 1, on fire
SS Salmon, Bomb hits 1
AM Lark, Bomb hits 1, on fire
SS Sturgeon, Bomb hits 1
AS Canopus, Bomb hits 1
DD Pope, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires
AO Trinity, Bomb hits 1, on fire
SS Stingray, Bomb hits 2, heavy damage
SS Searaven, Bomb hits 1
SS Pickerel, Bomb hits 1

Airbase hits 16
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 44
Port hits 6
Port supply hits 1

********************************
Enemy bombing results at Clark:

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 44 damaged
O-47A: 15 damaged
P-40B Warhawk: 20 damaged
P-35A: 12 damaged

Airbase hits 29
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 68

**********************************
Enemy bombing results at Hong Kong:

Allied Ships
xAK Hai Lee, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Hanyang, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Ming Sang, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires
xAK Fatshan, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires
xAKL Chengtu, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Yat Shing, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
xAK Nanning, Bomb hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Kanchow, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage

Repair Shipyard hits 10
Port hits 13
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 1

Allied aircraft losses
Walrus II: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 19

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RE: Wedge Donovan Wins the War: Apbarog(A) vs Aurorus(J... - 8/22/2017 3:31:07 AM   
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8 Dec 41

Bataan was mined by enemy subs. I anticipated this and sent 4 AMs from Manila at full speed, and they got there before the great Manila exodus occurred. All mines swept.

Near Malacca on the west side of Malaysia, I-121 spots AMC Kanimlba fleeing at high speed from Singapore. One torpedo hits. Then I-121 reengages and gets another hit with a torpedo, sinking the AMC. Subs on the west side now, good to know. I just dropped some mines in the area. Could get a sub.

Mersing is invaded, as expected. Mersing starts with 2 units, but neither has any combat value. Nothing can be done with this opening gambit. Singapore will be cut off and eliminated quickly, having no chance to even build any fort levels.

Clark is effectively swept by Zeros again. Air defense is just about gone.

Bettys and Nells attack Singapore's airfield and port. No CAP flew.

Allied aircraft losses
Vildebeest III: 4 damaged
Buffalo I: 15 damaged
Buffalo I: 2 destroyed on ground
Hudson I: 1 damaged
Blenheim IV: 1 damaged
Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied Ships
DD Encounter, Bomb hits 2, heavy damage
TK British Judge, Bomb hits 1
xAK Silverbeech, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AMC Manoora, Bomb hits 2, heavy damage
AG Pangkor, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AMc Rahman, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 16
Port hits 1

Clark is then bombed by Bettys and Nells. Zeros escorted, but they weren't needed. Almost all B-17s are damaged and will remain so. I take a chance and rail transfer one squadron to Batangas, hoping to fly out a few after repair, if Aurorus doesn't catch on. I disbanded the other squadron.

Some Allied ships fled Singapore to Bengkalis, but didn't get away. Nells flew a long sortie and sank a few ships.

Then lots of Kates from KB hit Singapore's port. All ships other than the tiny ones were already damaged.

Allied Ships
ML No. 311, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
ML No. 310, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Silverbeech, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Demodocus, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
AMC Manoora, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Wulin, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AG Vyner Brooke, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
DM Stronghold, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
TK Mobilfuel, Bomb hits 2, heavy damage
AM Ballarat, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
DD Encounter, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
TK British Judge, Bomb hits 1, on fire
MMS-51, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk

The Allies did have one positive combat today. B-17s from Mindanao hit Babeldaob's port. There was no CAP and there were ships in port.

Japanese Ships
AD Gyoko Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DMS W-7, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
xAKL P-11, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
CM Yaeyama, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
CM Itsukushima, Bomb hits 1, on fire
ARD Meyungs ARD, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage

Japanese Ships
PB Edo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK Macassar Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DMS W-8, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK Shinsei Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
AO Iro, Bomb hits 1
CM Itsukushima, Bomb hits 1, on fire


The B-17s will try again today. Aurorus has been so aggressive with his moves, he may not be able to backfill Babeldaob with fighters in one day. If he even trys. The B-17s will probably evacuate after this repeat attempt.

Bettys, Vals and Kates then sank more ships near Singapore.

Allied Ships
xAKL Pahang, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAKL Circe
xAKL Lipis, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CM Willem v d Zaan, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CM Kung Wo, Bomb hits 13, and is sunk
xAP Hong Kheng, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAKL Marudu, Bomb hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
AG Ban Hong Liong, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
TK Spirilla, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
xAP Klang, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
TK Pleiodon, Bomb hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage
PG Herald, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Kuala, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk
xAK Zannis Cambanis, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires
TK Pinna, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk

Allied Ships
AMc Klias, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
AMc Jarak, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk

Allied Ships
AMc Gemas, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk

My plan for today was to have all remaining fighters escort bombers from Singapore to hit shipping that would undoubtedly go to Mersing. Everything was set to range 2. This worked. KB was at range 3. However, no fighters flew, but the bombers did. Enemy CAP may not have been enough if 20 or so Allied fighters would have helped, but the Zeros were more than enough for Vildebeest, Hudsons and 139WH-3s. No bombers made it to target, and most if not all were shot down.

More KB bombers hit more shipping near Bengkalis.

Allied Ships
TK Spirilla, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAP Matang, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Zannis Cambanis, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
PG Herald, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk

Allied Ships
xAKL Circe, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk

Then Kota Bharu was captured.

About 55 Allied ships have been sunk so far, with another dozen or so stuck at Singapore, too damaged to move. Repulse and a light cruiser. Nothing significant beyond that. Just most of what starts at Singapore and Hong Kong.

The positive spin is that KB did not go south toward Java. The Allied big tankers are making it to safety. Many are loading up at Java.

The other spot of interest is near Ambon, where many enemy task forces approach. None have arrived yet, and they may be going somewhere else, like Kendari. With carrier support, I decided not to risk combat shipping. BB Prince of Wales joined with 4 US destroyers and will eventually join up with a carrier task force. Nice AAA.

It is worth noting that there has been no Philippine landing so far. Nothing at Wake, nor Tarawa. I wonder where those troops are headed. It does look like the northwestern corner of Borneo is about to be invaded.






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8 Dec 41 - Ambon or Kendari?




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Always Ambon first to get in range of Darwin.

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Just 2 days into the war, and I'm starting to mentally prepare for a blitz of Australia or India. I was thinking of going with a strong Ceylon, figuring that would eliminate any end run landing around to the west coast of India. But now I'm thinking that putting 2 Brit divisions on Ceylon may just invite a 5 division landing and lots of Brit prisoners.

I'm also thinking about where I can be hitting early if the Japanese focus on India. I don't think that a slow and methodical Allied buildup is going to be enough, if Aurorus intends to keep up his speedy advances.

I was really tempted to throw Prince of Wales, and the US and Dutch ships at the enemy near Ambon. His carrier force weak, maybe just CVLs. But I have no air in the area, and no prospect of bringing in anything of value. I would have to approach unseen, just outside of his carrier range, hit the invasion hex, battle what looks like 3+ battleships and many others, and then escape outside of carrier range. It just isn't going to happen.

He does have what looks like shipping headed to Davao from Babeldaop. I'm sending some destroyers into the area to hopefully intercept today. I didn't spot a covering force there.

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Ceylon is a trap early on, if he wants to commit to taking it. It is too early to know where he will go all-in - Oz or India or maybe even SoPac or NorPac. Put those Brit divisions in Karachi to protect that key base and wait until they can upgrade squads to some A/T value. If he goes all in for Oz, just rail your troops close to where you can hit his weaknesses and send them in.

Some players have pulled off successful raids where the Japanese have moved to fast for their air cover, but I don't think Aurorus will do that. He seems to cover all the bases in his on-line comments in other peoples' AARs. I'm in the camp that says you need PoW to escort your carriers and only the old American and British CLs and some DDs should be used for raiding because they are fast and maneuverable - hard for bombers to hit.

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I will certainly prepare as if India and Australia are about to be overrun. Safety first. But I will counter at every opportunity. Even if it just a nuisance like my bombing Babeldaop.

In chess (and other things) they say if you want to improve your game, play someone better than you. My early take on Aurorus is that he is a skillful player, with a great attention to detail. I will do my best to give him a good match. And I'll learn along the way.

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Just develop Bombay's port to level 7 for ship rearment bonus. Thus, you will be have a spare base for your navy once Ceylon falls.

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I would plan on defending India as so much comes there through off map bases and not nearly as much through OZ. India is nice springboard against DEI and Malaya. If he comes to India trade space for time and garrision Bombay and Karachi well at the cost of Ceylon, Madras, Calcutta. I would give up OZ, especially NW-W and SE.

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