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Looking for some information to help Souther Storm! - 7/16/2017 3:52:08 PM   
CapnDarwin


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Guys,

While we are working on getting the 13 Update ship shape to ship to Matrix and working on Southern Storm, I find myself lacking some information for the proper organizational levels of many non-US armies and the associated rank (and proper rank abbreviation) of the of the highest HQ leader. As an example for the US, I have the following.

HQ Level                Rank(s)                 Rank Abr
Corps			Lt. General		LGn.
Division		Major General		MG.
Regiment / Brigade 	Colonel			Col.
Battalion/Squadron 	Lt. Colonel		LtC.
Company/Troop 		Captain			Cpt.
Platoon 		Lieutenant		1Lt.
Squad/Section		Staff Sergeant		SSsg.


I am looking for similar information for the Soviets, East and West Germans, Poland, France, UK, Belguim, Netherlands, Canada, Czechs, Denmark. Anyone who provided information or a good pointer to information can give me there Surname/Country and it will be added to the new data tab for leader names.

Complete Nations are underlined - Thanks again to those pitching in!

Thanks.

< Message edited by Capn Darwin -- 8/10/2017 12:21:03 AM >


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RE: Looking for some information to help Souther Storm! - 7/17/2017 2:44:34 PM   
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Jim,

Some dutch/belguim rangs:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_ranks_of_the_Dutch_armed_forces
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lijst_van_militaire_rangen_van_de_Nederlandse_Krijgsmacht
http://nl.milpedia.org/wiki/Militaire_rangen_(landmacht)
http://www.wikiwand.com/nl/Lijst_van_militaire_rangen_van_de_Belgische_Strijdkrachten

A nice overview of the dutch OoB can be found on https://www.orbat85.nl/

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RE: Looking for some information to help Souther Storm! - 7/17/2017 3:45:54 PM   
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The Brits are just about exactly the same as US.

Some British Army battalions use strange terms for Sergeant, eg Corporal-of-Horse, the origin of which is deep in unit history but everybody else just understands it as another term for Sergeant, so just ignore it and use Sergeant.

Hope this helps,

B

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RE: Looking for some information to help Souther Storm! - 7/17/2017 4:22:46 PM   
harry_vdk

 

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Some NATO rangs:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranks_and_insignia_of_NATO_armies_officers

STANAG 2116 NATO codes for grades of military personnel
http://www.militaria.lv/stanag.htm

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RE: Looking for some information to help Souther Storm! - 7/17/2017 5:43:06 PM   
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Thanks for posting the information guys!
I will check it out this week as I work on things.

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RE: Looking for some information to help Souther Storm! - 7/17/2017 10:05:14 PM   
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According to a friend in french officer class on another forum, for french army it's:

HQ Level                Rank(s)                 Rank Abr
Corps			Général de Corps d'Armée	GCA
Division		Général de Division		GDI
Brigade 		Général de Brigade		GBR
Regiment 		Colonel				COL
Companie/Escadron 	Capitaine			CNE
Section/peloton 	Lieutenant			LTN
Groupe			Sergent		        	SGT


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RE: Looking for some information to help Souther Storm! - 7/18/2017 12:43:18 AM   
CapnDarwin


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Batteran, thanks for the info!

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RE: Looking for some information to help Souther Storm! - 7/30/2017 5:29:55 PM   
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Here you go Capn Darwin. I use these TO&E charts for my mission making in other games I play. I think you will find this useful. Scroll down to bottom of page for the "modern warfare/Cold War" TO&Es.

Fire and Fury TO&Es PDFs

Cheers.

P.S. Looks like I did not read your request carefully. Never-the-less, perhaps someone will find these useful.

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RE: Looking for some information to help Souther Storm! - 7/30/2017 7:33:15 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Capn Darwin

As an example for the US, I have the following.

HQ Level                Rank(s)                 Rank Abr
Corps			Lt. General		LGn.
Division		Major General		MG.
Regiment / Brigade 	Colonel			Col.
Battalion/Squadron 	Lt. Colonel		LtC.
Company/Troop 		Captain			Cpt.
Platoon 		Lieutenant		1Lt.
Squad/Section		Staff Sergeant		SSsg.




This is a pet peeve, but when using US Army rank abr it would be nice to use official US Army rank abr: LTG, MG, COL, LTC, CPT, 1LT, SSG, etc. Also Co for company and not Coy, Bn, Bde, etc. Just a suggestion. Or make this stuff editable in a file? Whatever works.

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RE: Looking for some information to help Souther Storm! - 7/30/2017 8:13:34 PM   
CapnDarwin


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Pzgndr, I can fix to caps and yes this info is in a new command tab in the Southern Storm data files so you can edit as you like for your scenario work.

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RE: Looking for some information to help Souther Storm! - 8/1/2017 1:39:47 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: battlerbritain

The Brits are just about exactly the same as US.

Some British Army battalions use strange terms for Sergeant, eg Corporal-of-Horse, the origin of which is deep in unit history but everybody else just understands it as another term for Sergeant, so just ignore it and use Sergeant.

Hope this helps,

B


Almost but not quite, there's a quite a bit of difference in command ranks:

HQ Level                Rank(s)                 Rank Abr
Corps			Lt. General		Lt Gen
Division		Major General		Maj Gen
Brigade 	        Brigadier		Brig
Battalion/Regiment 	Colonel/Lt. Colonel	Col /Lt Col
Company/Squadron	Major/Captain	        Maj / Capt
Platoon/Troop 	        Lieutenant/2nd Lt.	Lt / 2Lt
Section		        Corporal		Cpl 


Battalions are usually commanded (the CO) by Lt Col but the senior battalion commander in a Regt. is a Col.

Companys or Squadrons are commanded (the OC) by Majors with Captains as 2nd in command (2ic) but there are Coys (or Sqns) with Capts in charge.
Platoons or Troops can be commanded by either Lts or 2Lts.
Sections are commanded by Corporal with Lance Corporals as 2ic. Some sections have been known to be commanded by L/Cpls. Sergeants are platoon sergeants only but have been known to command platoons in wartime.

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RE: Looking for some information to help Souther Storm! - 8/1/2017 10:27:41 PM   
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Thanks Plodder.

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RE: Looking for some information to help Souther Storm! - 8/9/2017 10:43:50 PM   
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Welcome back guys after some time. An info about Polish army. There was no corps level in Polish People's Army, so you had:

-Army ( during peace time is was a military district ) - generał broni ( General of arms ) - gen. broni

-Division - generał dywizji - gen. dyw

-Brigade - generał brygady - gen. bryg

-Regiment - pułkownik - płk.

-Batalion - major - mjr.

-Company - porucznik - por.

-Platoon - podporucznik - ppor.

-Squad - kapral - kpr.


Hope that helps.

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RE: Looking for some information to help Souther Storm! - 8/9/2017 11:46:14 PM   
CapnDarwin


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Thanks Katukov!

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