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'Winged Victory' WW1 air combat board game - 7/5/2017 2:46:12 PM   
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I think I would love this but I'm not sure it's out yet. [(? 7 people on BGG say they own it?). maybe testers]

It looks interesting. Very detailed. Side view with individual AC. It will be nice to see how the depth is taken into account. I find with Wing Leader, a WW2 side view game, I don't miss it that much.

Screen shots and description are on Board Game Geek; link below


https://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/225084/winged-victory

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RE: 'Winged Victory' WW1 air combat board game - 7/5/2017 5:27:46 PM   
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Its available on their website - https://www.wbsgames.com/en/10_wbs-games

40 euros.

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RE: 'Winged Victory' WW1 air combat board game - 7/5/2017 5:47:00 PM   
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Thanks ezz....I didn't realize it was for sale.

unfortunately it would cost about $40 US to ship it to the US, ouch

Hopefully some others stores start to distribute the game.

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RE: 'Winged Victory' WW1 air combat board game - 7/5/2017 7:09:58 PM   
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Try this https://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/7031/flying-circus
It was remade a few years ago...forget by who.

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RE: 'Winged Victory' WW1 air combat board game - 7/5/2017 9:20:06 PM   
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I still have Bloody April to play.... but I'm curious how does this play in solitaire.

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RE: 'Winged Victory' WW1 air combat board game - 7/5/2017 9:31:49 PM   
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lol I still have Bloody April and Warbirds:Canvas Falcons.
I don't think I'll find much better than those but I'm so easily tempted...

Winged Victory has a 7 solitaire rating on BBG.

I probably should just put Bloody April back on the table. :-)

I spent most of today watching YouTube's of Elusive Victory same system as BA and also by Terry Simo...

I'm hopeless

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RE: 'Winged Victory' WW1 air combat board game - 7/5/2017 10:20:22 PM   
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AWNT have reviewed other games of theirs so I've put in a request for us to be able to review it. Will keep you all updated.


It looks like a nice counter weight to Warbirds:Canvas Falcons. Fancy something extremely detailed and like a simulation get out Warbirds or fancy something maybe more thematic and a little easier on the brain get out Winged Victory. Or use either game to do the dogfight phase when playing Bloody April:)
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RE: 'Winged Victory' WW1 air combat board game - 7/5/2017 10:52:16 PM   
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Or use either game to do the dogfight phase when playing Bloody April:)

I would have to buy a new table.

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RE: 'Winged Victory' WW1 air combat board game - 7/6/2017 1:45:51 AM   
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Would be cooll if and when the PC version of Bloody April arrives it is possible to actually input combat results so you can play out the dogfight using Warbirds, Winged Victory or even Wings of Glory..
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Or use either game to do the dogfight phase when playing Bloody April:)

I would have to buy a new table.



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RE: 'Winged Victory' WW1 air combat board game - 7/6/2017 6:29:45 AM   
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I am surprised that people out there still playing those board games. Still working on mine, slow to get it develop. Hopefully someday I have it out for publish.

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RE: 'Winged Victory' WW1 air combat board game - 7/6/2017 9:37:08 AM   
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I've the feeling that there was never so many boardgames releases.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/sep/25/board-games-back-tabletop-gaming-boom-pandemic-flash-point
http://www.newstatesman.com/culture/games/2017/01/how-board-games-became-billion-dollar-business


Wargames are a niche, but I believe they also benefiting from the boom.

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RE: 'Winged Victory' WW1 air combat board game - 7/6/2017 1:43:36 PM   
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quote:

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I've the feeling that there was never so many boardgames releases.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/sep/25/board-games-back-tabletop-gaming-boom-pandemic-flash-point
http://www.newstatesman.com/culture/games/2017/01/how-board-games-became-billion-dollar-business


Wargames are a niche, but I believe they also benefiting from the boom.



If they are successful, depending on their taste. Maybe mine will be popular heh. One thing about board gaming, there are so many possibilities and can be change time to time. For pc games, have to be patches and does not always work due to errors and pc problems.

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RE: 'Winged Victory' WW1 air combat board game - 7/6/2017 6:57:00 PM   
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Board games (the wargame niche) are alive and well...look and GMT and the BoardGameGeek among many others!
http://www.gmtgames.com/
https://boardgamegeek.com/

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RE: 'Winged Victory' WW1 air combat board game - 7/7/2017 5:52:49 AM   
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Board games (the wargame niche) are alive and well...look and GMT and the BoardGameGeek among many others!
http://www.gmtgames.com/
https://boardgamegeek.com/


That boardgamegeek, is a good site. Tell you plenty details about it, screenshots and even post online where you can buy it.

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RE: 'Winged Victory' WW1 air combat board game - 7/7/2017 9:15:38 AM   
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Hello everybody!

I'm Carlo Amaddeo of WBS Games: thank you for your interest in Winged Victory. I'm here to answer any question.

The game is being proofread at the moment and it will be available in English soon. I confirm it will be reviewed by AWNT as soon as the first English manual will be printed.
Our games are usually sold by Gamesurplus in the US: I suppose this will make no exception.

To answer Jack54, the game is basically different than Wing Leader because it takes into account individual AC instead of large squadrons, so the level of detail is much more important.
Basically you will have to manage your plane energy during the dogfight: each one of the 35 historical planes in the game lists its own performance in terms of power and aerodynamics so, for example, flying a rotary engine will be essentially different than an in-line engine one and you'll see the Fokker Triplane, "climb like a monkey" comparing to an Albatros.

To be clear, we made the play-ability as our main goal: we are plenty of superbly detailed...yet unplayable games. You can actually play this game quite easily and once mastered its basics, you can add optional rules as: "in case of leakage, the pilot must fly straight ahead to remove his goggles tagged by oil". Is it detailed enough?

Keep asking and I'll be happy to answer!


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RE: 'Winged Victory' WW1 air combat board game - 7/7/2017 9:36:26 AM   
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And how it plays in solitaire, is there any special rules? Is there any hidden information, any fog of war?

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RE: 'Winged Victory' WW1 air combat board game - 7/7/2017 3:07:15 PM   
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WBSGames thank you for responding... I'm happy to see the game will be released in the US. I noticed on a BGG image that there is a play aid with maneuver diagrams such as Immelmanns... do the different aircraft relate to this chart differently?


I too will be playing the game solitaire...

Again thanks!

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RE: 'Winged Victory' WW1 air combat board game - 7/8/2017 9:19:45 PM   
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Can't wait to review this..

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RE: 'Winged Victory' WW1 air combat board game - 7/10/2017 2:30:50 PM   
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And how it plays in solitaire, is there any special rules? Is there any hidden information, any fog of war?


Solo scenarios are included; however, since each plane is uniquely modeled, playing both sides being alone, is quite satisfactory. There are no really hidden information: you can keep track of your plane status on its Dashboard, visible to anyone. We believe guessing the opponent move does not recreates the spirit of a dogfight: in our daily experience we can quite precisely guess whether an incoming car is going to turn or keep its route on a roundabout. The real challenge is replying to the opponent's move with an effective maneuver on the base of your plane performance. The only hidden information is AC model while planes are not spotted.


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WBSGames thank you for responding... I'm happy to see the game will be released in the US. I noticed on a BGG image that there is a play aid with maneuver diagrams such as Immelmanns... do the different aircraft relate to this chart differently?


I too will be playing the game solitaire...

Again thanks!


Yes, every plane deals with maneuvers differently in terms of lost energy and maneuver timing. Moreover, on the base of planes' handling, some maneuvers can be tricky or even dangerous, especially for Novice pilots! (i.e. Camel was notorious for its bad spinning attitude).



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RE: 'Winged Victory' WW1 air combat board game - 7/10/2017 4:23:42 PM   
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Thank you again.... I'm looking forward to the US release

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RE: 'Winged Victory' WW1 air combat board game - 7/10/2017 5:35:52 PM   
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Copy and paste of an email from Carlo answering some questions..

Hello Jason!

I’m just waiting the guy proofreading the manual has finished his job to send a copy to you! It will be a pleasure to being reviewed by AWNT!

Answering your questions, missions include:

· CAP

· Patrol

· Recon

· Balloon busting

· Strategic and tactical bombing

· Trench strafing

· Scramble

· Artillery fire direction

RPG elements.

Absolutely it includes RPG elements: with the Squadron career playing mode you create your own squadron and have a series of instruments to create pilots, planes, missions, aerodrome conditions and so on. You must manage pilots’ personalities to keep morale high, otherwise your squadron won’t receive state-of-the-art planes. Moreover you will have awards and promotions, as well as historical random events…you’ll get a lot of fun with that!

COUNTERS

In the box you will find by default 2 counters per plane, each one with its historical paint job. Being honest, the opportunity to create squadron-specific plane packs depends on sales and we don’t expect Winged Victory to be a mainstreamer; however, we already have it among the things-to-do and we’ll surely release for free some small downloadable add-ons for the Eastern and Italian Front. I hope you can contribute to make the game well known among the gamers, so these upgrades will be available soon!

For any question, do not hesitate to ask!

Have a good day!

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