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New WW1 Wargame Out 1st Aug - 6/26/2017 4:22:34 PM   
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RE: New WW1 Wargame Out 1st Aug - 6/26/2017 4:24:29 PM   
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RE: New WW1 Wargame Out 1st Aug - 6/26/2017 5:33:02 PM   
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I just bought Supreme Ruler Ultimate this is my first game in the series, I would like to know what people think about the series, and how it compares with other grand strategy games as a concept and how well it plays.

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RE: New WW1 Wargame Out 1st Aug - 6/26/2017 6:01:26 PM   
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I've played all of them and found them to be buggy.

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RE: New WW1 Wargame Out 1st Aug - 6/26/2017 6:19:08 PM   
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I've played Ultimate and Cold War. I think the series has a lot of cool ideas that you don't see in other games, but it is a bear to figure out how it all works and actually have a good game. Every time I play I'm never really sure if I'm doing well or just flailing around. It can be an entertaining experience though, and there aren't many (any?) post-WW2 grand strategy games like it. I would suggest only get it when it's on sale.

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RE: New WW1 Wargame Out 1st Aug - 6/26/2017 9:17:32 PM   
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I must confess I had never heard of them until today. I have been watching some You Tube videos and reading reviews which support the views given by LarryP and Ranger33 completely.

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RE: New WW1 Wargame Out 1st Aug - 6/26/2017 9:23:44 PM   
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It's sad, because Supreme Ruler series has a ton of neat features, and for a person like me that loves a lot of options to play with, it's a dream. Then the bugs start hitting and it's a real let down. I got a refund on the last version, and with a heavy heart.

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RE: New WW1 Wargame Out 1st Aug - 6/26/2017 10:52:15 PM   
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I have jumped in on a lot of WW1 games only to be disappointed. I will wait for reviews this time.

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RE: New WW1 Wargame Out 1st Aug - 6/26/2017 11:36:59 PM   
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For one I am also going to wait and see posts, ect. about this game. Secondly, My first impression was that this game was exclusively about WW I, which it is not. Thirdly, Is the RTS (which there are no screenshots of) and play similar to Total War Empire? The screenshots seems to indicate a strategic phase, not just tactical RTS..

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RE: New WW1 Wargame Out 1st Aug - 6/27/2017 9:07:13 AM   
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Thanks Larry P and Ranger33 for your insight, I will play it but will not take it seriously so I will not be in frustration, a lot of fans of the series on steam suggested that the best is to play modern setting sandbox mode, I will try that and report back.
For ww1 setting I dont know how they will make it any good strategic level game, the best WW1 strategic level game I played was Commander The Great war.

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RE: New WW1 Wargame Out 1st Aug - 6/27/2017 12:21:09 PM   
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the best WW1 strategic level game I played was Commander The Great war.


Agree

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RE: New WW1 Wargame Out 1st Aug - 6/28/2017 2:23:07 AM   
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I tink same man different coat. More of an addon or DLC than new game. A common thing today a base model with paid extra features. My two bobs worth.

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RE: New WW1 Wargame Out 1st Aug - 6/28/2017 9:55:53 PM   
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Years and years ago I discovered Supreme Ruler 2010. I was amazed (at that time) what I fun wargame it was. I am finished with the new games, as wars can become RTS "blobs" or super micro-management. If only the whole game was as good as its separate parts.

But back on topic, yes I like Commander the Great War probably the best. Although many swear that Strategic Command WW1 is the best SC game of the old series. Less so might be Making History WWI

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RE: New WW1 Wargame Out 1st Aug - 6/28/2017 11:20:41 PM   
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Played Supreme Ruler Ultimate for about 300 hours so far and loving it. Yes it has some flaws but well... It is also very complex and has a steep learning courve. Somewhere between WITE and WITP I would say.

It really shines at mordern warfare (Trump Rising 2017 or World crisis 2020). The early campaigns (world war II era) are not the strengh of the game to be honest.


For german speakers: Ive posted a review here on steam about that game some days ago: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198022087017/recommended/314980/



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RE: New WW1 Wargame Out 1st Aug - 6/29/2017 5:05:06 PM   
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Best WW1 grand strat for me is WW1 Gold. Though I have yet to play Battlefronts Great War game, well played the demo. What most fail to do or get right is the change from open warfare to trench warfare. WW1 Gold manages to do this to good effect.

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RE: New WW1 Wargame Out 1st Aug - 6/29/2017 10:51:59 PM   
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quote:

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Played Supreme Ruler Ultimate for about 300 hours so far and loving it. Yes it has some flaws but well... It is also very complex and has a steep learning courve. Somewhere between WITE and WITP I would say.

It really shines at mordern warfare (Trump Rising 2017 or World crisis 2020). The early campaigns (world war II era) are not the strengh of the game to be honest.


For german speakers: Ive posted a review here on steam about that game some days ago: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198022087017/recommended/314980/




After reading this, I tried Supreme Ruler Ultimate again since it's on sale. I gave up, it is so frigging broken! The tutorial is a massive mess. The option for running in windowed mode won't even work so that I can run a YouTube tutorial at the same time. What a shame because the game is full of micromanagement. Glorious micromanagement!

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RE: New WW1 Wargame Out 1st Aug - 6/30/2017 4:44:27 AM   
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I bought this years ago. It has lots of features, but they really do not work. You think they do, but they do not. That is why you cannot see the impact of your actions because they are not doing anything. Go on YouTube and watch how you just blob units and boom, that is all there is to the game no matter how much micro-managing you do.

I agree that Commander The Great War (turn based) is a very high quality game, but that is not similar to Supreme Ruler (RTS). If you want the mack daddy, never to be equaled in a million years, WW1 RTS, go with HOI 4, the Great War Mod. I have about 100+ hours on just that mod. Cannot put into words how great it is. And if you want to look under the hood, Paradox makes it really easier for you to do with probably the best GUI on the market. And the YouTube info and the Paradox support is the best in the industry.

Do not believe the negative press from Steam, HOI 4 in its present condition is AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is 50% off so hurry up. And make sure you get the two DLCs, Together for Victory and Death and Dishonor. It will suck the life out of you (which is good).

PS - do not get me going on the Kaiserreich Mod. On a scale of 1 to 10, that is an 11 -- but it has been crashing lately which the Mod team will fix.

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RE: New WW1 Wargame Out 1st Aug - 6/30/2017 1:33:31 PM   
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Is the Great War Mod in the Workshop?

EDIT: I found it.

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RE: New WW1 Wargame Out 1st Aug - 6/30/2017 11:14:02 PM   
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Hi Larry. Yes it is. Click on the tab Most Subscribed and/or Most Popular. It is one of the top three. While you are at it, please try Kaiserreich. I think the crashing issue may have stopped since the latest patch. There is about 7 or 8 smart guys working on Kaiserreich. If it is not fixed, I know it will be soon. I made it all the way to 1942 before it crashed.

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RE: New WW1 Wargame Out 1st Aug - 6/30/2017 11:25:44 PM   
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Thanks Balto. I am playing The Great War now with a YouTube video going by EnterElysium at the same time. HoI4 is a massive bunch of micromanagement, it's excellent. I will also check out Kaiserreich. Thanks for the suggestions.

How did you learn HoI4, trial and error or videos?

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RE: New WW1 Wargame Out 1st Aug - 7/1/2017 2:35:59 AM   
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That is a great question. I have been playing since HOI2, so right there - that is a huge leg up. For HOI 4 (because of my extensive prior HOI experience) it was mostly trial and error and a then the WIKI when you have the basics down.

I am a huge fan of EnterElysium, so you are on the right track. I have some tips; (1) do not get hung up in the language of the focus trees (the political stuff) because I think they are purposely worded horribly except for the ones involving tech. Most of the time you can only figure out what they do after you click them. So do a SAVE, click one, then see if it trashes everything. (2) play Germany and do what they did historically (Sudentenland, Czech, Hungary, Spanish civil war, Poland, France, then by that time, you figured out enough to go crazy). That way you will learn the mechanics without having to figure out what you are supposed to do. When you get good, man, you can do whatever the heck you want. (3) Russia is very overpowered, so maybe try them after you try Germany. There is no stress with Russia, with Germany - well, you know how that goes. (4) When playing as Germany and Russia, do not mess with any Naval stuff - wait until you get good. (5) do not play USA, they are so isolated you will learn nothing.

Trust me, this not a Gary Grigsby or TOAW game were you need to live on the forums and YouTube. The GUI is outstanding. Jump in and feel the genius of this awesome game. In many ways, I put this up there with the god of all wargame series, Decisive Campaign even though HOI is RTS and not turn based. Yeah, it's that good.

The Steam forum is very helpful and very fast - just ignore the punks.

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RE: New WW1 Wargame Out 1st Aug - 7/2/2017 10:51:38 PM   
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I'm working on all that you suggested. HoI4 has so many options that it's easy to get lost, until you get some experience in. Paradox did a mighty fine job on this title. EU4 is also a great strategy game. I also have Crusader Kings 2 but have more trouble getting the hang of that than any other game. It's the time period, I know little of it.

I'm now playing as the Soviets and then I will go back to the Great war MOD when I get more time in. Thanks for your advice!

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RE: New WW1 Wargame Out 1st Aug - 7/3/2017 1:43:58 PM   
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Since we are talking about WW1, what you guys think about Making History: The Great War, or even about Making History series?

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RE: New WW1 Wargame Out 1st Aug - 7/3/2017 6:00:01 PM   
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quote:

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Since we are talking about WW1, what you guys think about Making History: The Great War, or even about Making History series?


Boring for me. I tried the first two in the series and they were just plain boring. Especially compared the the Hearts of Iron series, but it is easier too.

Now my curiosity is up and I downloaded the Great War demo. I see it is still being updated which says a lot of good for the game.

Updated later: I am liking what I see in the demo. Also have watched some YouTube videos and have done some of the tutorial for The Great War version. I may buy this game after all. Pretty funny, I never thought I would be interested in this series again.

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RE: New WW1 Wargame Out 1st Aug - 7/3/2017 7:42:49 PM   
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Hey Larry, thanks for the feedback, I shall download the demo, well again, I downloaded long time, and the map made my eyes bleed but didn't make much effort to explore the game, I just need encouragement from here. I think I got one :)

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RE: New WW1 Wargame Out 1st Aug - 7/3/2017 9:34:52 PM   
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I did the entire tutorial and it gets a little weird about 3/4 the way through. Info boxes don't close when you do what it says so I just clicked on the Skip button on the bottom and it finished fine. The game is much more intense than I imagined it to be. I don't know how the mechanics work to resolve matters, but the options are plenty. The map of course in HoI4 is much nicer and the options to manipulate your military are more, but Making History The Great War is a decent game from what I see.

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RE: New WW1 Wargame Out 1st Aug - 7/4/2017 2:49:24 AM   
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quote:

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I did the entire tutorial and it gets a little weird about 3/4 the way through. Info boxes don't close when you do what it says so I just clicked on the Skip button on the bottom and it finished fine. The game is much more intense than I imagined it to be. I don't know how the mechanics work to resolve matters, but the options are plenty. The map of course in HoI4 is much nicer and the options to manipulate your military are more, but Making History The Great War is a decent game from what I see.


I have MHII and The Great War. (Bought as a bundle.) Fun to play.

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