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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 11/14/2017 4:55:54 PM   
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B-17s from Singapore hitting Saigon's port without recon may force him to spread his already thin fighter force even more.

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 11/14/2017 4:58:10 PM   
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Yesterday Lowpe sent the replay of the latest turn, March 29. I don't have the turn file yet so info is incomplete. He has construction going on and apparently fires to put out there too!

A lot of sub contacts to start the turn. So many, but his night search makes most of them escort initiated. Only a few fire shots, and those all at DDs.

Unfortunately O20 hit a mine at Singkawang in spite of orders not to go there.

Light cruisers have a light bombardment at Palembang, but importantly do hit infantry squads for the first time here. Nice!

The hex below is where it looks like the mini-KB ended up.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR March 29, 1942
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ASW attack near Pontianak at 54,90

Japanese Ships
CL Oi
CL Yura
DD Shigure
DD Yugumo
DD Wakatake
DD Oite

Allied Ships
SS O23

SS O23 is sighted by escort
O23 bottoming out ....
DD Wakatake fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Oite fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Oite fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Oite fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Oite fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Oite fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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ASW attack near Serasan at 56,86

Japanese Ships
DD Yamagumo
BB Mutsu
CA Chikuma
CS Chiyoda
DD Asakaze
DD Hokaze
DD Shiokaze
DD Akikaze
DD Okikaze

Allied Ships
SS Sculpin

SS Sculpin launches 2 torpedoes at DD Yamagumo
Sculpin bottoming out ....

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TF 469 encounters mine field at Singkawang (56,88)

Allied Ships
SS O20, Mine hits 1

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Night Naval bombardment of Palembang at 48,91

Allied Ships
CL Glasgow
CL Hobart

Japanese ground losses:
174 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled

Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Manpower hits 1
Fires 550
Runway hits 3
Port hits 2

Walrus II acting as spotter for CL Glasgow
CL Glasgow firing at Yokosuka 4th SNLF
CL Hobart firing at Palembang

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ASW attack near Singkawang at 55,88

Japanese Ships
DD Asakaze
BB Mutsu
CA Chikuma
CS Chiyoda
DD Kikuzuki
DD Yamagumo
DD Hokaze
DD Shiokaze
DD Akikaze
DD Okikaze

Allied Ships
SS S-37

SS S-37 launches 2 torpedoes at DD Asakaze
S-37 bottoming out ....
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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 11/14/2017 10:08:15 PM   
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B-17s from Singapore hitting Saigon's port without recon may force him to spread his already thin fighter force even more.


I could. A good idea again. I've tried before as well, but it is at 17 hexes requiring reduced load range. Right now I do want to get nearby known threats taken care of and then hopefully I can look at other long range ideas.

Miri and Brunei are also in range, and from several bases on Java I can hit Balikpapan still. From Clark Field Hong Kong is only 15 hexes as well. His recon is not consistent at Clark so I could slip them in there for a strike or two.

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 11/16/2017 8:08:43 AM   
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The mini-KB did attempt a strike which flew in to Palembang without escort and hit the CAP. Reports show 17 Kates destroyed. A second wave came and somehow missed the CAP, got to a few AMc and sank them ruthlessly. Got to be careful since there is a lot of good combat and transport shipping around. Tomorrow all bases with ships will hunker down and fly 1 hex supporting CAP at layered levels.

After this in the day the air strikes were again very effective at Palembang even though weather still plays up a bit. A total of 30 more hits to the oil!! Now that I've seen the turn file I can say this is getting to the point where I'm nearly finished with the campaign. I'd like to get it to 100-150 oil left, with Djambi at 0, and then go for the base itself.

Overall we've hit Magwe and destroyed about 100 oil points there, taken off another 100 between Balikpapan and Samarinda, hit Boela for minus 20, and destroyed the oil at Sakhalin for another minus 30, plus a few odd here and there. By my count (without tracker) I think the SRA and Burma have about 2,700 oil production points. So if I count up those damaged already plus the goal for Palembang, that would be about 1350, or almost exactly half, of the SRA oil production wiped out in the first 4 months of the war!!

Of course I won't stop there, and Magwe, Miri/Brunei, Balikpapan/Samarinda (plus Soerabaja and Medan/Benkalis if and when they're captured) will still be in range of the 4Es.

Elsewhere the 4Es finally get the big hit o the damaged Pontiniak fields we were hoping for, with another ~30 Japanese planes destroyed, plus one more 500lb hit on the Myoko (only deck armor again, non-penetrating). I'll rest these beasts up tomorrow and not risk getting them embroiled in a fight with the KB CAP.

Out at Sabang the Dorniers flew and hit another APD, likely sinking her. Nice!

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR March 29, 1942
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Morning Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 8
139WH-3 x 18
F4F-4 Wildcat x 9

No Allied losses

Oil hits 7
Fires 272


Aircraft Attacking:
3 x 139WH-3 bombing from 10000 feet
City Attack: 3 x 300 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 2
B-25C Mitchell x 18
B-26 Marauder x 16
P-39D Airacobra x 7
F4F-4 Wildcat x 9

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged
B-26 Marauder: 4 damaged

Oil hits 21
Fires 292


Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 10000 feet *
City Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Pontianak , at 56,90

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
Ki-27b Nate x 1

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 3
B-17E Fortress x 26
LB-30 Liberator x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 8 damaged
A6M2 Zero: 5 destroyed on ground
Ki-27b Nate: 1 damaged
Ki-27b Nate: 8 destroyed on ground
H6K4 Mavis: 1 destroyed on ground
E13A1 Jake: 2 destroyed on ground


Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 9 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Myoko, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 27
Port hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Palembang at 48,91

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 13

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 5
CW-21B Demon x 2
Hurricane IIb Trop x 1
P-39D Airacobra x 3
F4F-3 Wildcat x 5
F4F-4 Wildcat x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 8 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Great Nicobar at 46,66

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
Do-24K-1 x 2

Allied aircraft losses
Do-24K-1: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
APD Nadakaze, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Do-24K-1 bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 4 x 300 kg SAP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Great Nicobar at 46,66

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 3 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Allied aircraft
Do-24K-1 x 3

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
APD Nadakaze, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Do-24K-1 bombing from 1000 feet
Naval Attack: 4 x 300 kg SAP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 8
Hurricane IIb Trop x 2
B-26 Marauder x 7
P-39D Airacobra x 7
F4F-4 Wildcat x 9

Allied aircraft losses
B-26 Marauder: 2 damaged

Oil hits 2
Fires 244


Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 8000 feet *
City Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Palembang at 48,91

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 1 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 0 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 11

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb Trop x 5
CW-21B Demon x 3
Hurricane IIb Trop x 1
P-39D Airacobra x 3
F4F-3 Wildcat x 5
F4F-4 Wildcat x 8

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
AMc Aroe, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
AMc Bantam, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk


Aircraft Attacking:
11 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 11/16/2017 8:25:53 AM   
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Up North in Redville the Soviets land some good shots on the retreating 24th A/division. Over all attacks the numbers accumulate a bit. This unit will be in trouble tomorrow when tanks arrive to give it another push.

Squads: 14 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 76 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Vehicles lost 1 (3 destroyed, 1 disabled)


Sunwu and Heiho continue to be hit, and with the rail now cut hopefully this will work on supply in the bases from a combined use of AA and hits to the supply directly.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR March 29, 1942
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Morning Air attack on 24th/A Division, at 114,40 , near Kiamusze

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 31 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Allied aircraft
I-16m24 x 24
SB-2 x 36

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
304 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 30 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)


Aircraft Attacking:
25 x SB-2 bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on 24th/A Division, at 114,40 , near Kiamusze

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Allied aircraft
I-16m24 x 6
SB-2 x 27

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
209 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled


Aircraft Attacking:
24 x SB-2 bombing from 10000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb
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This is what we found at Sunwu. Not much, but I know the division to the South could add in as well, or simply try to escape.




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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 11/18/2017 11:54:14 AM   
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This shows where the IJN CVs ended up after the turn. Quite ominous, but I've decided to stay put, disband all but small ship TFs (PTs, MTBs, AMc and ML) and set CAP heavily over all port bases. Subs will continue the hunt. It's pretty risky putting these ships out here in the middle of our search arcs and where a lot of subs are known to be spotted regularly, so I wonder what's he's up to. A lot of strike planes, so maybe more than I thought originally. At least 3-4 CVs or 2 CV plus a lot of CVLs.

As shown here Formidable is on her way to rienforce the RN. She'll divert out a bit to avoid any rushing strikes in by the IJN.

At Oosthaven about 8 ground units are being unloaded, so extra CAP is placed there, but no surface forces. A trip through Merak might not turn out well for a raiding TF as there are lots of mines, MTBs and CD guns. They'd traverse the hex two times if they went and that wouldn't look good for them I think.




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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 11/18/2017 12:42:45 PM   
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A pretty decent day i the air (and striking the airfields).

Note: after the recent discussion on fluctuating airframe loss reports, we're back up to 550 A6M2 now!!




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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 11/18/2017 12:45:28 PM   
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This report claims the oil at Palembang is down to 469 now!!! Amazing!

Since several nearby fields are now level 4 our MBs are flying with full loads ands the hits may begin to really add up in the next week. We're aiming to take it to under 100 before trying to take the base.




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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 11/18/2017 12:47:48 PM   
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The 30th was a bit anti-climactic as the mini-KB retreated through the horde of subs around Singkawang and there were no hits.

In spite of increased search and some groups on naval strike set to go on Ceylon, the Abukuma and escorts again raid deep into the IO. This time they nail a five ship TF on it's way back to Cochin. All ships are destroyed. I've added more search, more strike planes and hope to get something back here since the Japanese have a long way to travel home. At least no troops or other cargo lost.



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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR March 30, 1942
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ASW attack near Pontianak at 54,89

Japanese Ships
DD Asakaze
CA Kinugasa
CA Chikuma
CS Chiyoda
DD Hokaze
DD Asanagi
DD Shiokaze
DD Akikaze
DD Okikaze

Allied Ships
SS Sturgeon, hits 1

SS Sturgeon launches 2 torpedoes at DD Asakaze
Sturgeon bottoming out ....

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Koggala at 24,58, Range 13,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CL Abukuma
DD Kawakaze
DD Shinonome
DD Minazuki

Allied Ships
xAP Tilawa, Shell hits 28, and is sunk
xAP Amra, Shell hits 32, and is sunk
xAK Wallingford, Shell hits 40, and is sunk
xAK Am. Builder, Shell hits 28, and is sunk
xAK Nightingale, Shell hits 10, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk


Low visibility due to Rain
Maximum visibility in Rain: 15,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 13,000 yards
Japanese launch Long Lance torpedoes at 13,000 yards before allies detect Japanese presence
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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 11/18/2017 1:30:41 PM   
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Although I turned off all 2E and most 1E aiming at Palembang, the Vincents escaped my attention and still flew, getting 1 more hit in on the oil!

The small garrison at Manado again foils the Japanese there. With one day left on the invasion bonus these kinds of stalemates will begin to be a mores serious problem.

At Palembang he's still increasing troop slightly by flying some in. In spite of a 1 hex LR CAP I can't hit the transports, but hey, I've got another 800 AV on the way, so it shouldn't matter. I'll keep bombarding by sea, and once the oil is wrecked sufficiently, all of these 2E will turn on the ground troops. His AA has certainly weakened here with continuous pounding, so I've lowered the altitude as well to 8k.

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Morning Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Allied aircraft
Vincent I x 8
F4F-4 Wildcat x 9

Allied aircraft losses
Vincent I: 1 damaged

Oil hits 1
Fires 45

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Vincent I bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb

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Ground combat at Manado (75,99)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1901 troops, 19 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 61

Defending force 1416 troops, 17 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 49

Japanese adjusted assault: 25

Allied adjusted defense: 65

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 1)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), fatigue(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker: leaders(+), leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
64 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
Sasebo 3rd SNLF

Defending units:
Manado Mil'ie Cdo
Manado RK Cdo /1

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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 20376 troops, 237 guns, 249 vehicles, Assault Value = 949

Defending force 13231 troops, 186 guns, 86 vehicles, Assault Value = 273

Assaulting units:
25th Australian Brigade
13th Australian Brigade
255th Armoured Brigade
45th Indian Brigade
10th LH Cav Regiment
16th Light Cavalry Regiment
17th Indian Division

Defending units:
23rd Ind Engineer Regiment
11th Garrison Unit /1
4th/B Div /1
4th/A Div /2
4th/C Division
Yokosuka 4th SNLF
4th Ind Engineer Regiment
15th Ind Engineer Regiment
Sasebo 8th SNLF /1
102nd Ship Eng Coy
15th Const Co
3rd Air Division
34th Field AA Battalion
31st Field AA Battalion
2nd Ship Engineer Regiment
202nd Ship Eng Coy
33rd Field Const Co
47th Const Co
34th Field Const Co
302nd Ship Eng Coy
43rd Const Co
9th JAAF AF Coy
7th Field Construction Battalion
26th Fld AA Gun Co
33rd JAAF AF Coy

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 11/18/2017 1:33:45 PM   
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Up North more bombing of Arshaan, Sunwu and Heiho. Tanks escape the stalemate hex and will move to Sunwu. I'l have about a 5:1 AV advantage there in a few days, and will wait to strike until all is in place.

The 24th A/division is being mercilessly pounded by air, and will be attacked by tanks tomorrow. There is a chance it'll surrender, leaving the IJA with an incomplete division.

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Ground combat at Sunwu (113,34)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 7596 troops, 100 guns, 708 vehicles, Assault Value = 390

Defending force 10157 troops, 37 guns, 279 vehicles, Assault Value = 295

Allied ground losses:
20 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled

Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
72nd Tank Brigade
9th Armored Car Brigade
7th Mongolian Motor Brigade

Defending units:
1st Tank Regiment
9th Tank Regiment
4th Garrison Unit
5th Border Defense Fortress
11th Tank Regiment
4th Army
207th JAAF AF Bn

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 11/18/2017 1:39:47 PM   
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Black Oil, looking bad for IJ. How goes the Beans and Bullets?

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Black Oil, looking bad for IJ. How goes the Beans and Bullets?


Well I can't speak of rate other side, but we've got about 70k supplies now on Sumatra, and there are another 50k casing in plus more on the way in the next two weeks. I've also topped up Java which doesn't have much industry without refineries making supplies in DBB.

Singers just got popup and is steady at 55k. I'll have to continue this every couple of weeks so getting Palembang and hopefully taking the island bases nearby would really make the transit easier. Next infusion I should bring in 25k at least. I just have to watch it now that the KB is around. For 14 knot ships it is a 3 day journey along the less vulnerable coastline.

Elsewhere Beans and Bullets are flush. The Aleutians are fully stocked, the Soviets have a nice reserve, and India ia overflowing.

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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 11/20/2017 8:29:38 PM   
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A little accounting.

Here is a map of the damaged oil centres of the SRA and Burma, either those starting off damaged or subsequently hit by air and naval strikes. Some seem to be repairing fairly quickly, like Balikpapan. Others are the same as they were after the last strikes.

At present in the bases owned by the Japanese there are around 888 damaged oil well points, with about 1116 producing. These include Palembang and Djambi though, which are under siege and threat from constant air strikes to wipe out most if not all remaining oil. If we don't count these bases, the Japanese are only producing around 605 oil points a turn from this area with another 1399 destroyed or unavailable, and ~480 yet to be taken. Not good for Lowpe's reserves.

I just looked on the Japanese side of my other Scenario 1 game, and it looks like there I've got 2880 oil centres producing. I know Magwe has been destroyed so add 300 to that.

So I'm guessing I can get over half of the possible IJ oil production centres damaged. I remember when this happened to my economy in the Wild Sheep Chase game with Jocke in the late game, and it really didn't take long to get through the reserves once he flow started to be reduced.

I've got a lot more thinking to do about what this will do to the Japanese economy. I need to research to find out the starting reserves, HI use and typical ship usage/day in the beginning then a lot of the fleet is in action. I then need to think about what this will mean for the future, and whether it will affect R & D, supply, and his ability to fight on land, int he air and in the oceans. Let me know if you have any thoughts of figures on this stuff.




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RE: Beans, Bullets and Black Oil :: obvert (A) vs Lowpe... - 11/21/2017 12:59:05 AM   
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Only thought I had was that any refuelling he does from the areas with captured oil + refinery should not be counted against his home reserve usage. What matters is what reaches Japan, not what gets used up from other gas (petrol, to you!) stations.

So the hard part of the equation is how much hauling capacity does he have and how much is it actually being used to haul fuel/oil back to Japan? Some of the haulers will be servicing far flung bases rather than feeding industry.

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Somebody dropped a few gifts near Singers on a shallow hex. DD Patterson cleared two while moving by in the night, and I’ll send in the AMs to take care of the rest.

The USN gets a good bombardment at Palembang again. Nice to note n the reports that we're hitting 4th C/division. His AV is still going up and troops still flying in somehow, in spite of the LR CAP from 1 hex at multiple altitude bands. He has a penchant for going extra high and I wonder how this works with transport. Either way, I'll bomb the s*** out of these troops soon once the oil is gone.

Speaking of the bombing, the strikes had huge impact today. In total 78 oil points damaged at Palembang and another 24 hit at Djambi.

On the downside, a large group of A6M2 from the CVs swept and crushed some LR CAPing P-39Ds on Sumatra. About 11 planes lost and Kates sank an xAK just after. Only a few pilots KIA though which is good.

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TF 293 encounters mine field at 49,85

Allied Ships
DD Patterson

2 mines cleared

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Night Naval bombardment of Palembang at 48,91

Allied Ships
CA Astoria
CA Louisville
CA Chester

Japanese ground losses:
485 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 10 destroyed, 52 disabled
Engineers: 8 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Vehicles lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled)


Manpower hits 1
Resources hits 2
Fires 67
Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 12
Port hits 4

SOC-1 Seagull acting as spotter for CA Astoria
CA Astoria firing at Palembang
CA Louisville firing at Palembang
SOC-1 Seagull acting as spotter for CA Chester
CA Chester firing at 4th/C Division

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Morning Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
DB-7B x 9
B-25C Mitchell x 9
Vincent I x 7
A-20A Havoc x 3
B-26 Marauder x 29

Allied aircraft losses
B-26 Marauder: 2 damaged

Oil hits 44
Fires 36


Aircraft Attacking:
9 x DB-7B bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
139WH-3 x 6
B-25C Mitchell x 3
Vincent I x 3
B-26 Marauder x 10
F4F-4 Wildcat x 9

Allied aircraft losses
139WH-3: 1 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged
B-26 Marauder: 2 damaged

Oil hits 23
Fires 27


Aircraft Attacking:
6 x 139WH-3 bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 3 x 300 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Palembang , at 48,91

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 9
A-24 Banshee x 13

No Allied losses

Oil hits 11
Fires 26


Aircraft Attacking:
13 x A-24 Banshee bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 1 x 1000 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Djambi , at 48,88

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 6 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 6

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 2 damaged

Oil hits 16

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Djambi , at 48,88

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 6

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 5 damaged

Oil hits 8

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 8000 feet
City Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on Tandjoengbalai , at 47,78

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 3 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 0 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 29

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 17

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 6 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet

CAP engaged:
24th PG/20th PS with P-39D Airacobra (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 6 scrambling)
(7 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Tandjoengbalai at 47,78

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 2 NM, estimated altitude 27,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 0 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 15
B5N2 Kate x 15

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAK Elmdale, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
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This shot shows the bombing took another ~100 off of Palembang. I might need only a few more days at this rate to completely shut it down. I am leaning toward as total a destruction as possible there since the Medan fuel seems to be flowing as far as Oosthaven right now, which is awesome.



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Only thought I had was that any refuelling he does from the areas with captured oil + refinery should not be counted against his home reserve usage. What matters is what reaches Japan, not what gets used up from other gas (petrol, to you!) stations.

So the hard part of the equation is how much hauling capacity does he have and how much is it actually being used to haul fuel/oil back to Japan? Some of the haulers will be servicing far flung bases rather than feeding industry.


Shi usage per day is pretty easy to figure out using tracker shots from my previous games. I think I can find out roughly what he'd be using for ships, subtract that from the reserves plus daily oil and resulting fuel produced. It'll all be an estimate because if he realises the oil is a problem he could start shutting down HI and also running less convoys far afield. In fact he'll definitely have fewer ships moving than usual since he'll only need half as many oilers.

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The Soviet biplanes got their asses handed to them today. A massive Oscar and Zero LR CAP over Arshaan hit our strikes, but luckily only fighters were affected. They made the ultimate sacrifice to get the bombers through, and although I lost 24 in A to A on the day, a lot of pilots were rescued and only 4 total bombers destroyed.

As I'd hoped, the rogue 24th A/division is bombed into submission and summarily wiped out by Soviet tanks. So that helps things immensely in the Southern area.

The main body is nearly to Sunwu, and I'll not start in until we have over 2,000 AV in hex in case the forts are as high here as the level 6 at Heiho.

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Morning Air attack on Arshaan , at 105,33

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 4
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 34

Allied aircraft
I-153 x 48
DB-3M x 32
SB-2 x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed


Allied aircraft losses
I-153: 16 destroyed
DB-3M: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

SB-2: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 25

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x SB-2 bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 100 kg GP Bomb

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Ground combat at 114,40 (near Kiamusze)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 9855 troops, 90 guns, 1169 vehicles, Assault Value = 657

Defending force 355 troops, 10 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 1

Allied adjusted assault: 936

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 936 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(-), disruption(-), fatigue(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
338 casualties reported
Squads: 7 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 24 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 7 (7 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 8 (8 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1


Assaulting units:
6th Ussurii Tank Brigade
2nd Ussurii Tank Brigade
3rd Ussurii Tank Brigade
4th Ussurii Tank Brigade
5th Ussurii Tank Brigade
87th VVS Base Force

Defending units:
24th/A Division

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Ground combat at Sunwu (113,34)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 7654 troops, 101 guns, 709 vehicles, Assault Value = 798

Defending force 11075 troops, 79 guns, 359 vehicles, Assault Value = 299

Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Assaulting units:
9th Armored Car Brigade
77th Tank Brigade
3rd Amurskaya Tank Brigade
75th Tank Brigade
72nd Tank Brigade
7th Mongolian Motor Brigade

Defending units:
1st Tank Regiment
4th Garrison Unit
9th Tank Regiment
5th Border Defense Fortress
11th Tank Regiment
11th Air Defense AA Battalion
7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
4th Army
20th Fld AA Machinecannon Company
Botanko Hvy Gun Regiment
207th JAAF AF Bn

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In Burma Lashio holds again!

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Ground combat at Lashio (62,46)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 28685 troops, 239 guns, 58 vehicles, Assault Value = 748

Defending force 18482 troops, 141 guns, 59 vehicles, Assault Value = 353

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 485

Allied adjusted defense: 637

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 0)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-), morale(-)
experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
500 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 79 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 5 disabled


Allied ground losses:
677 casualties reported
Squads: 47 destroyed, 30 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled

Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled

Assaulting units:
Imperial Guards Division
33rd Division
1st RTA Division
15th Army
29th Field AA Machinecannon Company

Defending units:
BFF Brigade
5th Chinese Corps
1st Burma Div /1
8th New Chinese Corps /1
Burma Corps
102nd RAF Base Force
100th RAF Base Force

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Invasion Bonus over!!

A huge day for the Allies, and so many places yet to land for the IJA. The unload rates will be much longer, allowing some interdiction possibilities, or evacuation options, and Japanese forces will now need to prep. That is huge. Even lightly defended bases can be difficult to invade without prep.

Allied forces are still flowing into Sumatra, and soon if I can achieve a victory at Palembang, will look at other options.





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