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RE: Mr Kane (J) vs Olorin (A) - 1/10/2017 5:51:52 PM   
Olorin


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I'm always looking for an opportunity, but I need Mr Kane to commit more forces in SE Asia. So far there hasn't really been a "Phase 2".

More details to follow soon.

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RE: Mr Kane (J) vs Olorin (A) - 1/12/2017 1:19:27 PM   
Olorin


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March 26-31, 1942:

SE Asia:

While the KB refuels at Singapore, Allied carriers (4 USN CVs + Indomitable) dash from Diamond Harbor to 4 SW of Rangoon. The goal was to (a) reveal my carriers and (b) to sink the 5 Japanese BBs based at Tavoy that were bombarding Pegu.
Result: BB Yamashiro severely damaged, 3 other BBs on fire, 1 DD and 3 fast AOs sunk:
quote:

Morning Air attack on TF, near Tavoy at 54,60
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 22

Allied aircraft
Albacore I x 27
Fulmar II x 9
Swordfish I x 12
F2A-3 Buffalo x 32
F4F-3 Wildcat x 54
F4F-4 Wildcat x 16
SBD-2 Dauntless x 18
SBD-3 Dauntless x 126
TBD-1 Devastator x 60

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Albacore I: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
SBD-3 Dauntless: 8 damaged
SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 destroyed by flak
TBD-1 Devastator: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Haruna, Bomb hits 7
BB Yamashiro, Bomb hits 5, on fire
E Shimushu
BB Kirishima, Bomb hits 8, on fire
BB Fuso, Bomb hits 12, heavy fires
AO Nippon Maru
AO Kokuyo Maru
BB Hiei, Bomb hits 5, on fire
AO Ken'yo Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires
DD Natsushio
AO Toei Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires
AO Kyokuto Maru, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires
DD Hatsukaze
DD Yukikaze

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring BB Fuso
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring BB Yamashiro
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Morning Air attack on Tavoy , at 54,60
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2

Allied aircraft
Sea Hurricane Ib x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Tavoy at 54,60
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12

Allied aircraft
Fulmar II x 4
Swordfish I x 12
F2A-3 Buffalo x 29
F4F-3 Wildcat x 54
F4F-4 Wildcat x 13
SBD-2 Dauntless x 18
SBD-3 Dauntless x 126
TBD-1 Devastator x 44

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 7 damaged
TBD-1 Devastator: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
BB Haruna, Bomb hits 8, on fire
BB Yamashiro, Bomb hits 16, Torpedo hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
AO Toho Maru
BB Kirishima, Bomb hits 4
BB Hiei, Bomb hits 1
BB Fuso, Bomb hits 3, on fire
DD Yukikaze
AO Nippon Maru
DD Hagikaze
DD Hatsukaze, Bomb hits 1
DD Natsushio, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Hayashio, Bomb hits 1, on fire
E Saga
AO Kokuyo Maru

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring BB Yamashiro
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring BB Haruna
Massive explosion on DD Hatsukaze
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring BB Fuso
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Natsushio


SoPac:
- Akagi and Kaga appear near New Caledonia, covering amphibious landings at Numea (53rd Div), Luganville (1 naval guard) and Efate (1 naval guard).

China:
- From the beginning, Mr Kane has committed massive air forces. 289 medium bombers (inc. 29 Helens and 81 Netties), 126 light bombers, 34 fighter bombers.
- There are also 8-10 artillery bombardments each day.
- Continuous deliberate attacks in two hexes, 3 W of Hengyang and at Chihkiang. So far the line holds.
- Chinese resistance around Yenan has collapsed.
- Overall supplies are dwindling quickly.

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RE: Mr Kane (J) vs Olorin (A) - 1/12/2017 2:16:23 PM   
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Well Done!

Be wary of getting trapped by the KB in those limited waters though...

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RE: Mr Kane (J) vs Olorin (A) - 1/12/2017 2:24:32 PM   
Olorin


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quote:

ORIGINAL: HansBolter

Well Done!

Be wary of getting trapped by the KB in those limited waters though...


My CVs are ordered to "aggressively advance towards Colombo"

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RE: Mr Kane (J) vs Olorin (A) - 1/12/2017 2:38:38 PM   
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Half of the Japanese pre-war BBs are not sunk or in serious need of extended yard time. This will hurt his future plans and maybe make him commit more of the precious KB air groups in bombing targets with high concentrations of allied AAA. This will help deplete them and help the future American carrier groups when the eventual carrier showdown happens.

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RE: Mr Kane (J) vs Olorin (A) - 1/12/2017 3:22:34 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Olorin


quote:

ORIGINAL: HansBolter

Well Done!

Be wary of getting trapped by the KB in those limited waters though...


My CVs are ordered to "aggressively advance towards Colombo"


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RE: Mr Kane (J) vs Olorin (A) - 1/12/2017 8:24:49 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Olorin

Logistics:

Only now I realize the acute lack of Allied escorts. Japanese subs can hunt with impunity until I organize my convoys, which will take 1-2 months. I am separating my transports by class, based mainly on endurance. The Allied merchant fleet starts with a capacity of roughly 1,5 million tons and I intend to use all of it. Everything that arrives later as reinforcements will be held as a reserve or to transport troops.

I 'll keep convoy routes to me, but I can tell you my 6 months projection.

Supplies hauled:
NoPac 0,75M
CenPac 0,6M
SoPac 80k
SwPac 1M
SE Asia 1,5M

Fuel hauled:
NoPac 0,45M
CenPac 0,65M
SoPac 70k
SwPac 1M
SE Asia 1,75M

Advice from AFBs is most welcome. Are these values enough for early '42?


Coming late to the party, but I can tell you are someone with experience playing as Japan. The smart Allied player plans his logistics in advance, and makes smart choices about how he husbands his early war transports; however, as someone who has only played the Allies in a number of PBEMs, I have to say, I have never calculated in this great detail the actual amount of supply I am sending in the first year of the war.

The only exception being--you have to pay very close attention to Australia. It might be worth your while (for future reader's benefit as well as yours), to shut down some, or all, of your HI in Australia if you have not already done so and just ship in supply until your capacity to ship fuel increases.

As someone else has commented, as the Allies you literally have infinite supply being generated at the edges of the map, and you have the assets you need to keep Australia supplied. If you leave some of the HI in Australia on, you'll need to be careful that you're shipping enough fuel, otherwise the HI will eat all of the fuel in Australia right under your nose.

Nothing is worse than having shipping stuck in Australian ports because your industry has eaten all the fuel!

Other than that, by in large, even with an intense IJN sub campaign, it's going to be very hard to supply starve the Allies in areas where it wouldn't be starved from to the proximity to IJA LBA or because it's an area where the IJN (and the KB) can operate freely anyway.

< Message edited by Revthought -- 1/12/2017 8:27:53 PM >


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RE: Mr Kane (J) vs Olorin (A) - 1/12/2017 8:45:32 PM   
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The points made about Australia are valid.

Personally I never turn off the HI, but instead make a concerted effort to get lots of fuel there, using New Zealand as the hub.

If you set up CS convoys from EC to Cristobal you can turn Cristobal into a hub and then run fuel and supply form there to Auckland.

From Auckland I distribute to SoPac and Australia.

The convoys enter due east of Auckland and run along the lower map edge, usually far away from Japanese raiders.

I also set up CS convoys from EC to Capetown and use it as a distribution hub as well, bring fuel to Perth and Melbourne.

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RE: Mr Kane (J) vs Olorin (A) - 1/14/2017 4:25:50 AM   
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no kidding your CVs weren't well placed to fiddle with Caledonia....well played!

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RE: Mr Kane (J) vs Olorin (A) - 1/14/2017 2:43:30 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Revthought

Coming late to the party, but I can tell you are someone with experience playing as Japan. The smart Allied player plans his logistics in advance, and makes smart choices about how he husbands his early war transports; however, as someone who has only played the Allies in a number of PBEMs, I have to say, I have never calculated in this great detail the actual amount of supply I am sending in the first year of the war.

The only exception being--you have to pay very close attention to Australia. It might be worth your while (for future reader's benefit as well as yours), to shut down some, or all, of your HI in Australia if you have not already done so and just ship in supply until your capacity to ship fuel increases.

As someone else has commented, as the Allies you literally have infinite supply being generated at the edges of the map, and you have the assets you need to keep Australia supplied. If you leave some of the HI in Australia on, you'll need to be careful that you're shipping enough fuel, otherwise the HI will eat all of the fuel in Australia right under your nose.

Nothing is worse than having shipping stuck in Australian ports because your industry has eaten all the fuel!

Other than that, by in large, even with an intense IJN sub campaign, it's going to be very hard to supply starve the Allies in areas where it wouldn't be starved from to the proximity to IJA LBA or because it's an area where the IJN (and the KB) can operate freely anyway.


I would agree the watch Australia and get all the fuel and supplies you can there early. Also turn off the Heavy Industry in both OZ and New Zealand so your fuel and go to the fleets. In my current game I moved a large amount of supply early to Australia and it was very handy when he landed and I needed to base the heavy bombers there.


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RE: Mr Kane (J) vs Olorin (A) - 1/19/2017 4:46:44 PM   
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April 1-13, 1942:

SE Asia:
- After crossing the Merak Strait, the KB shows up 15-20 hexes SE of Colombo and loiters the Bengal Sea for 5 days. 25 allied subs on the hunt. A Dutch sub finds KB, launches 6 torpedoes at CV Soryu and scores 1 hit, but damage seems to be light.
- Invasion of Burma by Japan with 6 confirmed divisions. 4 of them cross the Salween river 1 hex north of Pegu, trashing a Chinese Corps. I decide to stay and fight to death. 1 division (4th) is detached towards Toungo. The other 3 divisions enter Pegu and their attack fails.
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Ground combat at 56,52 (near Pegu)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 38122 troops, 298 guns, 54 vehicles, Assault Value = 1639
Defending force 20518 troops, 94 guns, 224 vehicles, Assault Value = 747
Japanese adjusted assault: 533
Allied adjusted defense: 197
Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1845 casualties reported
Squads: 8 destroyed, 219 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled

Allied ground losses:
12341 casualties reported
Squads: 408 destroyed, 224 disabled
Non Combat: 253 destroyed, 58 disabled
Engineers: 7 destroyed, 9 disabled
Guns lost 28 (16 destroyed, 12 disabled)
Vehicles lost 69 (37 destroyed, 32 disabled)
Units retreated 4

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
4th Division
38th Division
21st Division
Imperial Guards Division
Southern Army
15th Army

Defending units:
5th Chinese/A Corps
5th Chinese/B Corps
7th Armoured Brigade
5th Chinese/C Corps
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Ground combat at Pegu (55,53)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 37852 troops, 300 guns, 94 vehicles, Assault Value = 1209
Defending force 50292 troops, 326 guns, 526 vehicles, Assault Value = 1472
Japanese adjusted assault: 304
Allied adjusted defense: 2740
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 9 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker: disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
5898 casualties reported
Squads: 12 destroyed, 591 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 50 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 44 disabled
Vehicles lost 6 (2 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
803 casualties reported
Squads: 11 destroyed, 30 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 68 disabled
Engineers: 6 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 30 (5 destroyed, 25 disabled)

Assaulting units:
21st Division
38th Division
Imperial Guards Division
15th Army

Defending units:
44th Indian Brigade
45th Indian Brigade
7th Armoured Brigade
46th Indian Brigade
5th Chinese Corps
17th Indian Division
66th Chinese Corps
1st Burma Auxiliary AA Regiment
102nd RAF Base Force
Burma Corps
108th RAF Base Force

- Allied fighters gain temporary air superiority over the enemy ground units and shoot down 40 enemy fighters while losing 10. I activate my level bombers for the first time in the war (including B-17s), causing high casualties.


China:
Bitter fights east of Kweilin:
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Ground combat at 77,53 (near Kweilin)
Japanese Deliberate attack
Attacking force 41869 troops, 682 guns, 312 vehicles, Assault Value = 1277
Defending force 51784 troops, 351 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1156
Japanese adjusted assault: 529
Allied adjusted defense: 1975
Japanese assault odds: 1 to 3

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
5162 casualties reported
Squads: 24 destroyed, 473 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 50 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 20 disabled
Guns lost 46 (1 destroyed, 45 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1117 casualties reported
Squads: 34 destroyed, 50 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 18 (1 destroyed, 17 disabled)

Assaulting units:
40th Division
39th Division
22nd Division
5th Ind.Hvy.Art Battalion
7th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
4th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
1st Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
3rd Hvy.Artillery Regiment
2nd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
6th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
China Expeditionary Army
11th Army
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
10th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
56th Chinese/C Corps
65th Chinese Corps
14th Chinese/C Corps
63rd Chinese Corps
25th Chinese/A Corps
1st Chinese Cavalry Corps
73rd Chinese/B Corps
73rd Chinese/A Corps
25th Chinese/C Corps
25th Chinese/B Corps
56th Chinese/B Corps
14th Chinese/A Corps
14th Chinese/B Corps
56th Chinese/A Corps
73rd Chinese/C Corps
12th Group Army
20th Chinese Base Force



ABDA command:
- The usual deliberate attacks at Buitenzorg and Ambon.
- Mindanao is invaded by 16th Jap Division. I have 950AV with only 7k supply.

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RE: Mr Kane (J) vs Olorin (A) - 1/20/2017 9:50:30 PM   
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April 14-18, 1942:

SE Asia:

Major success in Burma!
- 5 British battleships, 13 cruisers and 17 destroyers bombard Pegu during the night.
- In the afternoon, 4 USN carriers and 2 British light carriers attack the 3 enemy divisions at Pegu.
- Reinforcements from Rangoon enter Pegu and the combined Chinese-British-Indian Burma Corps shock attacks:
quote:

Ground combat at Pegu (55,53)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 58617 troops, 445 guns, 519 vehicles, Assault Value = 1864
Defending force 43364 troops, 318 guns, 301 vehicles, Assault Value = 994
Allied adjusted assault: 930
Japanese adjusted defense: 390
Allied assault odds: 2 to 1
Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), disruption(-), preparation(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), morale(-)

Japanese ground losses:
12729 casualties reported
Squads: 272 destroyed, 50 disabled
Non Combat: 267 destroyed, 230 disabled
Engineers: 26 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 72 (57 destroyed, 15 disabled)
Vehicles lost 108 (50 destroyed, 58 disabled)
Units retreated 8 (to the NE)

Allied ground losses:
3991 casualties reported
Squads: 100 destroyed, 78 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 86 disabled
Engineers: 23 destroyed, 28 disabled
Guns lost 24 (7 destroyed, 17 disabled)
Vehicles lost 40 (2 destroyed, 38 disabled)

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
46th Indian Brigade
17th Indian Division
5th Chinese Corps
18th British Division
7th Armoured Brigade
66th Chinese Corps
1st Burma Auxiliary AA Regiment
Burma Corps
102nd RAF Base Force
108th RAF Base Force

Defending units:
21st/B Division
21st/A Division
Imperial Guards Division
38th Division
21st/C Division
Southern Army
15th Army
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion

- Mr Kane air drops 65AV at Lashio and captures the base.
- I will pursuit the enemy and drive them back across the Salween river. Then Lashio will be retaken.

ABDA Com:
- 5 Japanese BBs bombard Buitenzorg. Perfect timing!
- Shock attacks at Buitenzorg and Ambon repelled.
- Cagayan is also attacked. Forts are dropped to 2, light casualties to both sides.

China:
- I fear for the survival of China. Supply is down to 40k My goal right now is to reopen the Burma road and force a stalemate in China.

< Message edited by Olorin -- 1/20/2017 9:59:58 PM >


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RE: Mr Kane (J) vs Olorin (A) - 1/22/2017 8:19:25 AM   
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April 19-22, 1942:

SE Asia:

- Enemy fighters sweep Rangoon, 8 Zeroes shot down, 25 friendlies lost.
- Alied fighters sweep Chiang Mai (lvl5) and find no enemy. 55 Bombers destroy 15 enemy aircraft on the ground.
- Following a SigInt report that 6th Guards Division was heading to Mulmein by sea, 2 CAs and 10 CLs were ordered to stand ready to intercept. The enemy transports were found and destroyed 1 hex west of Mulmein.
6 fast AKs (Kyushu, Yusn S) and 9 xAKs (Yusen N, Aden) were sunk and about 23k troops drowned:
quote:

Night Time Surface Combat, near Moulmein at 55,55, Range 3,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
PB Kyo Maru #10, Shell hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
PB Yokae Maru
PB Mikitade Maru
PB Teibo Maru #2
PB Sureboko Maru, Shell hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
PB Uruboko Maru, Shell hits 6, and is sunk
PB Zosen Maru, Shell hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PB Sonan Maru #5, Shell hits 1, and is sunk
PB Sonan Maru #6, Shell hits 5, and is sunk
PB Shonan Maru #6, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
PB Shuko Maru #2
PB Shuko Maru #5, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
PB Shonon Maru #10, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
AK Hirokawa Maru
AK Sado Maru
AK Sagami Maru
AK Sakura Maru
AK Sasako Maru, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
AK Kinka Maru, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
AK Kyushu Maru, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
AK Tosan Maru, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Ayatosan Maru
xAK Kansai Maru
xAK Kashii Maru
xAK Aobasan Maru
xAK Asosan Maru
xAK Asakasan Maru, Shell hits 2, heavy fires
xAK Atutasan Maru
xAK Kinugawa Maru
xAK Zenyo Maru
xAK Nako Maru
xAK Johore Maru
xAK Yamahagi Maru
xAK Yamahuzi Maru
xAK Sinno Maru, Shell hits 8, on fire
xAK Saiho Maru
xAK Nansin Maru
xAK Yuri Maru, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
xAK Kiyo Maru, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
xAK Mansei Maru
xAK Syoryu Maru
xAK Kyosei Maru
PB Bokuyo Maru, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
PB Hakozake Maru, Shell hits 1, on fire
PB Tama Maru, Shell hits 5, and is sunk
PB Heizan Maru
PB Hozugawa Maru, Shell hits 2, on fire
PB Tsukikawa Maru, Shell hits 1, on fire

Allied Ships
CL Danae, Shell hits 1
CL Dragon, Shell hits 1
CL Durban
CL Dauntless, Shell hits 1
CL Ceres
CL Capetown
CL Colombo
CL Caledon, Shell hits 2
DD Tenedos
DD Express
DD Isis

Japanese ground losses:
3342 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 140 destroyed, 96 disabled
Engineers: 19 destroyed, 27 disabled
Vehicles lost 41 (30 destroyed, 11 disabled)

Poor visibility due to Rain with 32% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Rain and 32% moonlight: 2,000 yards
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Moulmein at 55,55, Range 5,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
PB Yokae Maru, Shell hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
PB Mikitade Maru, Shell hits 7, and is sunk
PB Teibo Maru #2, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
PB Shuko Maru #2, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Hirokawa Maru
AK Sado Maru, Shell hits 10, heavy fires, heavy damage
AK Sagami Maru, Shell hits 7, on fire
AK Sakura Maru, Shell hits 30, and is sunk
xAK Ayatosan Maru
xAK Kansai Maru, Shell hits 3, heavy fires
xAK Kashii Maru, Shell hits 6, heavy fires
xAK Aobasan Maru
xAK Asosan Maru, Shell hits 1
xAK Asakasan Maru, heavy fires
xAK Atutasan Maru
xAK Kinugawa Maru, Shell hits 3, heavy fires
xAK Zenyo Maru, Shell hits 2, heavy fires
xAK Nako Maru
xAK Johore Maru, Shell hits 1
xAK Yamahagi Maru
xAK Yamahuzi Maru
xAK Saiho Maru
xAK Nansin Maru, Shell hits 3, on fire
xAK Mansei Maru
xAK Syoryu Maru, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Kyosei Maru, Shell hits 5, on fire
PB Heizan Maru

Allied Ships
CL Danae
CL Dragon
CL Durban
CL Dauntless
CL Ceres
CL Capetown
CL Colombo
CL Caledon
DD Tenedos
DD Express
DD Isis

Japanese ground losses:
7057 casualties reported
Squads: 122 destroyed, 63 disabled
Non Combat: 70 destroyed, 168 disabled
Engineers: 32 destroyed, 9 disabled
Guns lost 63 (44 destroyed, 19 disabled)
Vehicles lost 30 (9 destroyed, 21 disabled)

Low visibility due to Rain with 42% moonlight
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Moulmein at 55,55, Range 6,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
PB Kyo Maru #10, Shell hits 15, and is sunk
PB Sureboko Maru, on fire, heavy damage
PB Zosen Maru, Shell hits 6, and is sunk
AK Sasako Maru, and is sunk
xAK Sinno Maru, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Yuri Maru, Shell hits 5, and is sunk
xAK Kiyo Maru, Shell hits 27, heavy fires, heavy damage
PB Hakozake Maru, heavy fires
PB Hozugawa Maru, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
PB Tsukikawa Maru, Shell hits 9, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied Ships
CL Danae
CL Dragon
CL Durban
CL Dauntless
CL Ceres
CL Capetown
CL Colombo
CL Caledon
DD Tenedos
DD Express
DD Isis

Japanese ground losses:
1366 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 39 destroyed, 63 disabled
Engineers: 14 destroyed, 22 disabled
Vehicles lost 14 (10 destroyed, 4 disabled)
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Moulmein at 55,55, Range 6,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
PB Yokae Maru, Shell hits 12, and is sunk
PB Teibo Maru #2, and is sunk
PB Shuko Maru #2, and is sunk
AK Sado Maru, Shell hits 17, and is sunk
xAK Kashii Maru, Shell hits 26, and is sunk
xAK Kinugawa Maru, Shell hits 22, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Zenyo Maru, Shell hits 19, and is sunk
xAK Nansin Maru, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Kyosei Maru, Shell hits 14, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CA Dorsetshire
CA Exeter
CL Hobart
CL Enterprise
DD Flusser
DD Cassin
DD Porter
DD Clark

Japanese ground losses:
10972 casualties reported
Squads: 193 destroyed, 253 disabled
Non Combat: 135 destroyed, 224 disabled
Engineers: 42 destroyed, 6 disabled
Guns lost 68 (56 destroyed, 12 disabled)
Vehicles lost 64 (58 destroyed, 6 disabled)

Combat ends with last Japanese ship sunk...


ABDA Com:
- Attacks at Buitenzorg and Ambon intensified. More than 50 bombers allocated per base. Naval bombardments almost daily. Shock attacks frequent. Ambon will fall soon.
- 15 allied small xAKL were sunk near Derby while returning from Darwin. They were the last transports in the area, Darwin is on its own for the time being. I tried the Normanton route, but it was also destroyed about a month ago.

China:
- Two Japanese offensives going on a the moment, the one showed in the screenshots above and a second one NE of Sian, where allied resistance has collapsed. Mr Kane REALLY wants China and has bought all tank regiments and lots of artillery from the Kwantung Army, while also committing about 350 bombers per day.

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RE: Mr Kane (J) vs Olorin (A) - 1/22/2017 10:40:02 PM   
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Over 22,000 Japanese troops drown, convoy commander better have gone down with his ship. So a dozen PBs are escort enough for a comnvoy of this size and this import?

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RE: Mr Kane (J) vs Olorin (A) - 1/23/2017 9:42:07 AM   
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Over 22,000 Japanese troops drown, convoy commander better have gone down with his ship. So a dozen PBs are escort enough for a comnvoy of this size and this import?


Knowing that 5 allied CVs and 7 BBs operate in the area, a proper escort would have been all 5 available Japanese BBs plus the KB.

Or he could simply march his troops overland.

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RE: Mr Kane (J) vs Olorin (A) - 1/23/2017 10:07:43 AM   
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Well done, but Mr Kane has paid for taking a massive risk there.

And why?

If he looks long term, then he's going to be able to put pressure on Burma from two fronts, and there isn't much you can do about that in 42

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RE: Mr Kane (J) vs Olorin (A) - 1/23/2017 11:30:34 AM   
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Well done, but Mr Kane has paid for taking a massive risk there.

And why?

If he looks long term, then he's going to be able to put pressure on Burma from two fronts, and there isn't much you can do about that in 42


Yes
Freeing 20 divisions from China will threaten the entire subcontinent, not only Burma. At some point I'll have to retreat to the Akyab-Imphal-Ledo line.

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RE: Mr Kane (J) vs Olorin (A) - 1/23/2017 12:39:29 PM   
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If he makes India his entire focus you will have to prepare a "Fortress Karachi" and "Fortress Bombay" defence. Saw that happen in a game about a year or two ago (not the Greyjoy rookie game - another one against an experienced allied player).
But you are hurting him quite badlyfor this stage in the war so I think you can defend the Imphal area for now.

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RE: Mr Kane (J) vs Olorin (A) - 1/23/2017 3:16:31 PM   
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April 19-22, 1942:

SE Asia:

- I didn't dare launching a deliberate attack against the 3 Japanese divisions NE of Pegu, despite them being disrupted. I have an AV advantage of 1,5:1 but it's not enough to risk an attack.
- 55 fighters spotted a Mulmein. On April 21st, I sweep with 180 fighters. Losses are 45 Oscars vs 10 friendlies.
- On April 22nd, 155 fighters are spotted at Chiang Mai. Again I sweep, only to find the KB airgoups (!) at max altitude. This time losses are 35 Zeroes vs 60 friendlies.

ABDA Com:
The usual ground, air and seas bombardments at Buitenzorg, Ambon and Cagayan, followed by deliberate attacks. Dutch AV at Buitenzorg is down by 180 (now 620) since late March.
Ambon is down to 135 AV (vs Mr Kane's 400) and will fall soon.
At Cagayan, I have a 2:1 advantage in AV, but Mr Kane has 4 heavy artillery regiments eating my supply.



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RE: Mr Kane (J) vs Olorin (A) - 1/23/2017 3:31:43 PM   
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If he makes India his entire focus you will have to prepare a "Fortress Karachi" and "Fortress Bombay" defence. Saw that happen in a game about a year or two ago (not the Greyjoy rookie game - another one against an experienced allied player).
But you are hurting him quite badly for this stage in the war so I think you can defend the Imphal area for now.


I think I remember that game. I also think of the Greyjoy vs Mr Kane game, which ended with a full scale India invasion by Mr Kane and the capitulation of the Allies in 1942, iirc.




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RE: Mr Kane (J) vs Olorin (A) - 1/23/2017 5:48:43 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
If he makes India his entire focus you will have to prepare a "Fortress Karachi" and "Fortress Bombay" defence. Saw that happen in a game about a year or two ago (not the Greyjoy rookie game - another one against an experienced allied player).
But you are hurting him quite badly for this stage in the war so I think you can defend the Imphal area for now.


I think I remember that game. I also think of the Greyjoy vs Mr Kane game, which ended with a full scale India invasion by Mr Kane and the capitulation of the Allies in 1942, iirc.




I think it was early '44 GJ capitulated ...

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RE: Mr Kane (J) vs Olorin (A) - 1/23/2017 6:07:12 PM   
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Ah thanks for the clarification. Memory failure.

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RE: Mr Kane (J) vs Olorin (A) - 1/24/2017 10:29:07 AM   
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April 23-28, 1942:

SE Asia:

- Japanese 4th Div launches two failed deliberate attacks 1 hex SW of Toungo.
- Mr Kane delivers troops at Mulmein by sea. This time there are cruisers covering the landing.
- KB airgroups at Chiang Mai now include 90 Kates. They sink 10 xAKs that were unloading supplies at Ramree island.
- Following the recent bloody air battles, the allied airforce is ordered to withdraw to Calcutta for recuperation.

NoPac:
The Northern Operation is finally launched.
Seeing that the KB airgoups are in Burma and that Akagi and Kaga are probably at Truk the operation is green lit. Original date was March 30th, planned to coincide with Japan's phase 2 operations that eventually never transpired.

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RE: Mr Kane (J) vs Olorin (A) - 1/24/2017 11:11:31 AM   
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Northern Operation:

Ground forces:
41st InfDiv, 2nd MarDiv, 7th MarRgt, plus 3 separate inf regiments, 2 tank battalions, 4 combat engineer regiments, 4 artillery regiments, 8 flak regiments and 3 MarDef battalions.

Naval forces:
327 ships of all types took part in the op. CV Hornet with 55 fighters and 40 dive bombers onboard, 3 BB, 3 CA, 2 CL, 15 DD. You will note that the escort is very light. I gambled on complete tactical and strategic surprise and that was achieved.

- Testing of enemy naval search patterns revealed... no enemy search whatsoever. The plan allowed for my TFs being spotted 4 hexes NE of Paramushiro-Jima. Seeing that no spots took place, the order for simultaneous landings was given.

- The primary landings took place on April 25th at Paramushiro, Onnekotan, Shimushiri in the northern Kurilles island chain and at Shikuka and Toyohara in south Sakhalin.
- On April 26th, Paramushiro, Onnekotan, Shimushiri and Shikuka fall (they were almost empty).
- On April 28th, all your base are belong to us! Toyohara falls after two deliberate attacks, a naval bombardment by 3 BBs and afternoon air attacks by CV Hornet.

Enemy air attacks:
On April 26th and 27th, only the untrained airforce of the Home Islands attacked. It was dealt with effectively by CV Hornet.
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Toyohara at 126,46
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
B5N1 Kate x 24
G4M1 Betty x 15
Ki-27b Nate x 102

Allied aircraft
F4F-3A Wildcat x 41
F4F-4 Wildcat x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N1 Kate: 9 destroyed, 1 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 8 damaged
Ki-27b Nate: 6 destroyed

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
CV Hornet
DD Selfridge
CA Minneapolis
CL Concord
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Toyohara at 126,46
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid detected at 74 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N1 Kate x 10

Allied aircraft
F4F-3A Wildcat x 25
F4F-4 Wildcat x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N1 Kate: 7 destroyed

No Allied losses
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Toyohara at 126,46
Weather in hex: Light rain
Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
G4M1 Betty x 17
Ki-27b Nate x 114

Allied aircraft
F4F-3A Wildcat x 34
F4F-4 Wildcat x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 4 destroyed, 4 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed by flak
Ki-27b Nate: 6 destroyed

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
CV Hornet
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Night Naval bombardment of Toyohara at 124,46
Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 58 damaged
Ki-27b Nate: 39 destroyed on ground
A6M2 Zero: 6 damaged
A6M2 Zero: 8 destroyed on ground

Allied Ships
BB Mississippi
BB New Mexico
BB Colorado
DD Perkins
DD Cushing
DD Shaw
DD Conyngham
DD Case
DD Cummings
DD Preston
DD Smith

Japanese ground losses:
885 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 23 destroyed, 66 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 12 (2 destroyed, 10 disabled)

Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 13
Runway hits 57
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Toyohara at 124,45
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 9 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D3A1 Val x 18
Ki-27b Nate x 27

Allied aircraft
F4F-3A Wildcat x 21
F4F-4 Wildcat x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A1 Val: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-27b Nate: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
xAP Tjinegara, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAP Wahine
xAP Empress ' Australia
xAP Mount Vernon
xAP Aorangi, Bomb hits 2

On April 28th, the attacks became more serious with more experienced crews:
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Morning Air attack on TF, near Shikuka at 126,43
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid detected at 116 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 40 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 17
G4M1 Betty x 20
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 40

Allied aircraft
F4F-3A Wildcat x 34
F4F-4 Wildcat x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 1 destroyed by flak
G4M1 Betty: 2 damaged
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3A Wildcat: 4 destroyed

Allied Ships
BB Mississippi
xAK Utahan
xAK Am. Builder
BB New Mexico, Torpedo hits 1
xAK Challenger, Torpedo hits 1
xAK Cape Fairweather
xAK Californian, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
xAK Susan Luckenbach, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
xAK Am. Packer
xAK Shooting Star
xAK American, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Toyohara at 124,46
Weather in hex: Severe storms
Raid detected at 81 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 12
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 20

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAP Duntroon
xAP Aquitania, Torpedo hits 1
DMS Perry
xAP Australia Star
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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Shikuka at 128,44
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid detected at 61 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 15
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 20

Allied aircraft
F4F-3A Wildcat x 23
F4F-4 Wildcat x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed by flak
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3A Wildcat: 1 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
CV Hornet
DD Meredith


Final tally:
About 200 enemy aircraft destroyed vs 16 of Hornet's airgroups.
BB Mexico lightly damaged (19,17,2).
3 xAP and 3 xAK sunk.
2 xAP lightly damaged.

A huge mistake:
The primary objective from now on is to build airfields and defend the airspace over my bases.

BUT...

There is almost no aviation support in the captured bases. I didn't notice that almost all of the aviation support squads and a huge part of the engineer squads were left in the Aleutians during the loading process.

As a result, there is currently no CAP in Sakhalin and Mr Kane has the opportunity to delay airfield expansion.
Also, only 1/3 of the supplies are unloaded. Fortunately 50k supplies were captured. There are in total 150k supplies in the captured bases.

An unplanned 2nd Wave is needed to deliver the necessary support and the rest of the supplies (180k). It will be much riskier than the 1st Wave, as surprise is now lost.

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RE: Mr Kane (J) vs Olorin (A) - 1/24/2017 12:49:23 PM   
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Great shades of Greyjoy! That is a bold surprise for early 1942! I bet those South Pacific islands do not look so attractive to him now!

Too bad you did not have enough ships to lift the Air Support too. I like to assign the Aviation Base Forces that have nothing but Air Support so there will be some loaded no matter what.

Hope you can keep your lodgement, but if it fails it will have disrupted his plans and tied down his forces for months. Perhaps keep a few small cadres of the important units behind for rebuilding.

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RE: Mr Kane (J) vs Olorin (A) - 1/24/2017 1:57:34 PM   
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Its great, and will take the pressure off, but he can and will take those back in '42.

But it will give you time elsewhere, which is great!



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Serious questions incoming (and keep in mind I only have experience with the game through October 1942) that are of great interest to me as an Allied player.

1. At this point in April 1942, do you have the strength to put up much of a fight if the KB and IJN concentrate in the area?

2. You've got 150k captured supply across multiple islands. Is that enough to build the airfields, repair the airfields, and keep your troops fed?

3. If your opponent concentrates to counter you here, can you actually keep supply going in to these islands 2+ months out?

4. In April 1942 Japanese air power is more than an over match for you, or it should be. What are the chances he can evaporate those supplies via bombing?
4a. Related: assuming you get those aviation support units in, once your opponent has good pilots and air units concentrated in the area, what is the likelihood that you can actually sustain a cap over the islands?
4b. Are you able to rotate fighters in and out through the air?
4c. What is the soonest you can realistically use the bases to sweep and strat bomb Japan?

5. Did any of your invasions trigger the Japanese emergency reinforcements? If so, what exactly is he getting and how will that impact you (here or elsewhere?)

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Toyohara is a huge blow - that's aircraft production that Kane no longer has. Great job.

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Toyohara is a huge blow - that's aircraft production that Kane no longer has. Great job.


What happens to those factories if he retakes the it?

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