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RE: General Patton v. Larry Fulkerson Scenario #76 - 11/23/2016 8:11:58 PM   
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After several weeks of pounding from the air and some bombardment from the ground the valient defenders of Bataan sued for
peace. There's a huge POW camp being set up for all the internees. I'm arranging for some transport to take them to Japan
where they will be used as forced labor in the RES mines. Most of them won't survive the war.




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RE: General Patton v. Larry Fulkerson Scenario #76 - 11/25/2016 6:12:59 PM   
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Brian had evacuated a large part of the Singapore defenders so it fell a lot easier than it would have been had they been present. There were a large number of casualties and an even larger number of POW's now. I'm thinking of moving the POW's to Formosa
to work in the RES mines. Meanwhile I need to start looking around for another target. I'm leaning toward Palembang next. And the
entire island of Symatra while I'm at it. And Java.




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RE: General Patton v. Larry Fulkerson Scenario #76 - 11/25/2016 7:04:15 PM   
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After several weeks of pounding from the air and some bombardment from the ground the valient defenders of Bataan sued for
peace. There's a huge POW camp being set up for all the internees. I'm arranging for some transport to take them to Japan
where they will be used as forced labor in the RES mines. Most of them won't survive the war.




This is offensive to me and may be very offensive to others. I think there are people here who lost
family in Japanese interment camps.

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RE: General Patton v. Larry Fulkerson Scenario #76 - 11/25/2016 7:10:38 PM   
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quote:

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ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson
After several weeks of pounding from the air and some bombardment from the ground the valient defenders of Bataan sued for
peace. There's a huge POW camp being set up for all the internees. I'm arranging for some transport to take them to Japan
where they will be used as forced labor in the RES mines. Most of them won't survive the war.



This is offensive to me and may be very offensive to others. I think there are people here who lost
family in Japanese interment camps.

Almost all of history is offensive. Horrible things take place in war and war is a terrible thing that happens with chimpanzees, bono's and
most of the advanced primates including man. Man is the most cruel of the predators. There should be a quaranteen placed around
the planet earth so that nothing leaves the surface of the planet for the safety of the cosmos. In fact, a more intelligent species should
probably wipe out every living thing on the planet. Turn it into a Venus or a Mars. That would be the kindest thing to do.

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RE: General Patton v. Larry Fulkerson Scenario #76 - 11/25/2016 8:10:57 PM   
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I got some new moves from Brian and I watched the combat replay, watched Singapore fall and so on. Now I've fired up Tracker
and I'm looking around for hints as to how the game is going and I was startled to find out that Port Arthur is out of oil. I had to
shut down the refinery there. It's got no oil center so it's depending on the flow of oil from it's ambient environment and obviously
that's not enough to run a refinery. Either that or I took too much oil out of P.A. on the last tanker run. D'oh. I'll have monitor the
situation and hope that the oil comes back sooner or later. Although I have that new oil field at Balikpapan to get fuel from, with the
added plus that it's ( Balikpapan ) located in almost the best position for the next phase of the war.

I'm going to tackle Sumatra and Java next and see iif I can't get some more RES and oil and other goodies from there. I'm optimistic.




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RE: General Patton v. Larry Fulkerson Scenario #76 - 11/25/2016 8:16:20 PM   
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Here's the new victory point ratio following the fall of Singapore and Bataan etc. I don't remember what the values are for
an automatic victory but I don't suspect that I'm anywhere close yet.




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RE: General Patton v. Larry Fulkerson Scenario #76 - 11/25/2016 8:24:42 PM   
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Here's some of the pool levels right now. I'm posting this here because I want to refer to the numbers later on in the war so I can get
a feeling for how fast the numbers are changing.

I've bumped up the production of the Ha-35 and the Ha-32 for the Zero's and Betty's respectively. The rest of the numbers I am
watching but with not as much interest.




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RE: General Patton v. Larry Fulkerson Scenario #76 - 11/25/2016 8:40:18 PM   
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I was checking out the aircraft losses just now and noticed that for those aircraft models that have lost relatively few aircraft compared
to the carnage that's going on, most of their losses are entirely OPS losses. I've been setting their range on the 'normal' range setting
except for those squadrons that are using drop tanks and the Mavis doesn't use drop tanks yet it's OPS losses are growing each day.
Maybe I'm driving the pilots too hard. Asking for too much from them. It's not like the hard part is over with and they can slack off some.
I guess OPS losses are just what happens when you use them in the war. A pilot can have a bad day and ooops another plane has
it's gear wiped out by a hard landing. That usually totals the plane except for the spare parts.

I saw a Cessna 172, early model, painted in USAF colors, parked at Bien Hoa's large airfield off in the corner with the rest of the aircraft
skeletons. They had obviously been stripping spare parts off of it and out of it and there were no tires and no wheels on the landing
gear, it was resting on the bare metal of the landing gear struts. I don't remember seeing a birds nest in the engine bay but I wouldn't
be surprised to hear there was one. The paint job was fading and peeling in spots and nobody ever paid these planes any attention
anymore besides people like me, off work can't sleep, looking around the parts of the base the Japs used to own. There's still Jap
mines in old minefields around the base. They are marked and so on and there's usually an effort to blow up another of the old Jap
mines from week to week as a training class for the EOD folks. The kind of class you don't mind doing twice.




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RE: General Patton v. Larry Fulkerson Scenario #76 - 11/25/2016 8:45:21 PM   
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I'm still going through all the information in the information tab and I've come upon the group reinforcement display and I'm just
now noticing that it implies that the planes that the subs carry, the Glens, usually spawn onboard the sub already. I was
wondering how I might have to sail the plane-less sub to Yokohoma or somewhere for another Glen, but this display infers that
it just appears on the sub automatically. So I'll keep an eye out to see if that's true. I'll keep you in the loop.




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RE: General Patton v. Larry Fulkerson Scenario #76 - 11/25/2016 8:56:06 PM   
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Here's a listing of the top pilots so far. I've moved a lot of them to TRACOM already but there's some still in a ship-borne squadron
that I haven't moved yet. I guess I'm waiting for the next period I hit a port to move them. I'm wondering how many TRACOM-qualified
pilots Brian has so far. I would guess not many American ones, mostly British and Australian and New Zelander's. My ship-borne
pilots have seen the most action so it makes sense that there's where the TRACOM-qualified pilots are born.




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RE: General Patton v. Larry Fulkerson Scenario #76 - 11/25/2016 9:56:58 PM   
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Okie dokie, I've done a cursory check of everything especially where it's happening quickly and so on and sent my moves to Brian.
So now I have time to check out the map, do a tour of the hubs and some of the spokes. I just happened to have the map open to
the spot depicted so I'll do it first and then go clockwise I guess. As you can see I've picked almost clean this part of the theater for
RES and so on. There's not a whole lot of traffic through here except ships leaving CRB for HK or Pescadores depending on which
port is the most busy at the time of arrival of the TF, and some traffic from CRB to Miri and vice versa moving supplies and fuel to
and from. I'm having maverick TF's out rounding up the stray pieices of divisions. For example the 16th Inf Reg at Manus near
Rabaul is part of the 20th Division, I think, now forming at Singapore, or at least somewhere west of Manus. So I have had to load
the separate pieces of the regiment into 3-one-ship TF's combined into one huge TF with escorts and so on, and have it moe from
Manus to Singapore a trip of almost two weeks. It's going to take a while to get these divisions put back together. I wish I had put
more thought into where I was sending units in the early part of the war. It would have helped a lot at times like this.




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RE: General Patton v. Larry Fulkerson Scenario #76 - 11/25/2016 10:51:49 PM   
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I changed my mind about going clockwise, I thought I'd choose the next nearest instead. This is the CRB area now and as you can see
with the single exceptions of Singapore and T-town ( just to the south of Singapore ) this area seems just about picked over for RES
already. I've been going as far as Bangkok for RES and collecting it at CRB and shipping it from there. I've collected enough at CRB
to justify another load moved to Hong Kong or Pescadores. I'm mostly waiting for the escorts for such a TF though because the waters
are still tretcherous with Allied subs. I'm going to have to deploy some CS's and or AV's with Pete's on them to look for subs in the
waters around my hubs. I'm planning on making Singkawang one of my minor hubs because of it's geographic location. It's positioned
just about right for the next phase of the war. I'm headed to Sumatra and Java simultaneously if there's enough manpower available.
I've got the Bataan people headed for Manila and the Singapore people are collecting division parts and resting. I say resting but they
are really in 'combat' mode and probably should be placed in 'rest' instead for the refit and training they might achieve.




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RE: General Patton v. Larry Fulkerson Scenario #76 - 11/26/2016 1:45:15 AM   
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Oops: time for an interruption in the hubs tour. One of my prize BB's took a torpedo and I had a CA that needed some yard time so
I made a TF with escort and sent them to Hong Kong where they will be repaired. I couldn't get the BB to fit to go up the river to
Saigon and CRB has no repair shipyard so Hong Kong is the next nearest port in the storm. I expect them both to be laid up for a
significant amount of time. The time when I need their services the most. Good thing I have more BB's to go around. I'll have to call
for one of those around Truk to replace this one that's broke.




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RE: General Patton v. Larry Fulkerson Scenario #76 - 11/26/2016 2:03:51 AM   
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Here's the Celebes area now. There's still a battle going on at Tarakan and it may or may not resolve quickly. The facilities have been
slightly damaged by the fighting I guess. I've captured Balikpapan which was another of my goals so now I guess I can concentrate on
grabbing all the little ports around the waters surrounding Java and cut off the escape route to Darwin. I've got troops moving on
Ambon even as we speak. I want to grab Boela while I'm at it for the oil there.




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RE: General Patton v. Larry Fulkerson Scenario #76 - 11/26/2016 2:32:36 AM   
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Here's the Rabaul area now. I've relaxed in this part of the world, partly because I'm out of available troops and I'll have to use these
troops that have already been used already again. That means the port they guard has to expand so I can load them on ships. That
means a couple of weeks time needs to pass. That's why this area has slowed down in operational tempo. Most of the action is going
to take place around Sumatra and Java in the near future. I'm already pounding Sabang because I want to land there in one of my
invasion prongs. Also, I've been hitting Palembang with ground attacks. There doesn't seem to be many fighters there yet. I expect
some more as time passes. Brian is probably planning on moving more planes into Palembang as soon as I'm committed to the attack.




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RE: General Patton v. Larry Fulkerson Scenario #76 - 11/26/2016 2:58:20 AM   
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Here's the Phillippines now. I've got scores of units that I need to rebuild into divisions and engineers to move to Manila for shipment
south. These guys are those going to Sumatra and Java. They still have the majority of their strength, they're not tired, not disrupted,
so they are in relative good shape. Ready to ship out. I just need to clear the mines out of Bataan's hex before it'll be safe to
transit the waters thereof.




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RE: General Patton v. Larry Fulkerson Scenario #76 - 11/26/2016 6:25:53 AM   
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I captured Balilkpapan yesterday and now about noon today I've started loading the first of the RES to be had there. The transports
that brought troops to B. are being used to convey RES now. They are going to carry their goodies to Babeldoab and then other
transports will carry it to Tokyo or some southern port on the Jap home islands. If Tokyo is crowded then I'll send it to Osaka. And
if Osaka is choked up then it goes to Kobe. There's lots of suitable ports. I'm hoping to find enough RES in Sumatra and Java to
fit the needs of the Jap economic effort. Or at least most of it.




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RE: General Patton v. Larry Fulkerson Scenario #76 - 11/26/2016 6:38:41 AM   
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Here's a list of all the auto-convoys. I'm rather relieved that it's working so well because it takes off some of the load from those I have
to monitor. I've been moving a lot of ships to Osaka and a lot of them are working their routes now. There's only about 10% of the
last load of ships I sent from Tokyo to Osaka still left in port at Osaka. I sent about two dozen of them and there's, like, four left in port.
I'll have to scrape more transports together and use them this way. Oh. wait, I have to have some of the transports to move the pieces
of divisions from here to there. Probably about twenty to do that. I think I have 20 boats left over from somewhere. I'm all the time
finding one or two too many ships in my RES ports. I usually just send them back to Tokyo for reassignment but I CAN send them
somewhere else of course. Lots of troops in Manila to move. Lots of RES at Singapore to move. I'm playing this by ear because the
ground plan is relatively set in stone but the details change from turn to turn and I have to be ready to adopt to the new conditions.
The conditions are changing relatively slowly right now, the eye of the hurricane.

EDIT: OH. And I wanted to mention that I notice that the auto-convoy system built a TF of seven individual ships for a trip somewhere.
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RE: General Patton v. Larry Fulkerson Scenario #76 - 11/26/2016 6:46:40 AM   
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Here's that 7-ship auto-convoy TF mentioned in the post above. I notice right away that it's using cargo instead of transport and they
didn't fill up completely. I'm not complaining all that much because so little cargo is missing and besides, it's better than nothing at all.
This is a shipment of supplies headed for Singapore, I wish the developers had made the game engine able to allow the player to
designate the auto-convoy port(s) and make them dynamically changable as conditions change. For instance, it might have been
better for the supplies to come from CRB instead of Osaka. Shorter trip and escorts besides.




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RE: General Patton v. Larry Fulkerson Scenario #76 - 11/26/2016 6:54:57 AM   
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I just happened to notice just now that Port Arthur is gaining it's oil level back at the rate of about 160 per day. What tons, barrels,
gallons? So I should be able to turn on the refinery pretty soon. Oh, but maybe I should let it build up a small reserve first before
I turn it back on so that it can straddle the dip in oil that can happen when you turn a refinery on after it's been off a while. I'm probably
imaging that.




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RE: General Patton v. Larry Fulkerson Scenario #76 - 11/26/2016 7:05:33 AM   
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Task Force 22 from Truk finally arrived at Rabaul and in addition to the much needed supplies it brought two AKE's for the port to
be able to turn around the larger ships, BB's and CA's without them having to go all the way to Truk for services. That's the theory.
I'm looking around for some AG's and AD's and maybe an AVP or two for Rabaul as well as the AKE's. They can make this port
really serviceable for the next phase of action, the take-down of Milne Bay and Port Moresby.




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RE: General Patton v. Larry Fulkerson Scenario #76 - 11/26/2016 7:12:29 AM   
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The port at Balikpapan has 20% damage and I need some engineers to repair it ASAP and I just happened to find some willing and
able engineers at Samah who volunteered to take on this next challenge. I'm loading them now for the trip which will take the better
part of a week I think. As soon as they are finished with the port I'll see if I can't find something else for them to repair. There's lots
of places in Malaya that need boosting and there's going to be a lot of places in Sumatra and Java to repair. I should be able to keep
them busy for a long while yet.

Brian sent me his moves in my early evening about 17:00 or so and he usually goes to bed shortly thereafter since he lives east of me
here in Tucson and that gives me the rest of the evening and overnight to work on my moves and post some stuff in the AAR. It's about
01:10 local and that means I have about another three hours or so before I have to send my moves to Brian so he'll have them when
he gets up in the morning. Which means we can sometimes do four turns in one day. Three or four, most days. Sometimes either he
or I have some kind of real world issue to deal with but it's been going rather smoothly so far.




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RE: General Patton v. Larry Fulkerson Scenario #76 - 11/26/2016 7:23:28 AM   
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I found a transport at Shanghi that was unemployed and after I explained the need it voluntered immedately to undertake the new
mission, which is to move to Manila to help transport the troops to their destinations. I'm sending it now from Shanghi believing
that it'll take approx 4 days to arrive there, because the Allied mines haven't been completely cleared from Bataan's harbor yet
and I have no idea how long it will be yet but I've had a multi-ship DMS TF sweeping Bataan and Manila both for about two days
now. I think they are almost through. So by the time the transport arrives at Manila the mines will be gone and all will be well.
That's the theory. And I will have saved a lot of time instead of waiting.




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RE: General Patton v. Larry Fulkerson Scenario #76 - 11/26/2016 12:26:35 PM   
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No Auto Convoys, make it an CS Convoy instead and add at least a PB as escort. Without an escort subs will fire their guns at you day and/or night. You can control it better and use waypoints. There is a small button below the three possible waypoints that you can click on so the TF returns follow the waypoints in reverse. Once set up, you can let CS go by themselves.

I have CS convoys going to Japanese ports from Shanghai, Port Arthur, Keijo, and Fusan with Resources. I have a small TF (20k) to/from Shanghai that I set to return with supplies from Japan. You cannot control this with Auto Convoys, which I've never used.

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RE: General Patton v. Larry Fulkerson Scenario #76 - 11/26/2016 12:51:27 PM   
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No Auto Convoys, make it an CS Convoy instead and add at least a PB as escort. Without an escort subs will fire their guns at you day and/or night. You can control it better and use waypoints. There is a small button below the three possible waypoints that you can click on so the TF returns follow the waypoints in reverse. Once set up, you can let CS go by themselves.

I have CS convoys going to Japanese ports from Shanghai, Port Arthur, Keijo, and Fusan with Resources. I have a small TF (20k) to/from Shanghai that I set to return with supplies from Japan. You cannot control this with Auto Convoys, which I've never used.

All good points........I stand corrected. CS convoys are definately better. I'm all the time having to cancel auto-convoys because their
path is too dangerous. I like your ideas.......thanks a heap..

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RE: General Patton v. Larry Fulkerson Scenario #76 - 11/26/2016 12:55:21 PM   
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...you can let CS go by themselves.

I just thought of a question: How far into the minor repair situation do you let the ship(s) degrade before you "fix" them? I've been
standing down even those (1) SYS damaged ships to repair them. Most of my ships have only minor damage because of this. Lots
of ships have no damage at all. Am I chasing the black swan? Maybe I should let them get into the teens before I fix them?

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RE: General Patton v. Larry Fulkerson Scenario #76 - 11/26/2016 1:15:06 PM   
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I fix them when they lose a knot of speed and slow the TF down. Most CS Convoys are set to cruise speed to minimize this. Most of your TF move at Cruise speed even if you set them to Mission speed.

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RE: General Patton v. Larry Fulkerson Scenario #76 - 11/27/2016 3:30:47 PM   
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Here's the pools values today compared with the pools values from 5 days ago. I detect some increase in the values especially the
Zero and the Ha-35. At this rate of increase I believe I can aim for a pool value of 510 engines and about 500 airframes in the pools
for the Zero's and engines both. Should be doable.




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RE: General Patton v. Larry Fulkerson Scenario #76 - 11/27/2016 3:37:50 PM   
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I've had some cities turn on their stockpiling to get the supply level high enough to repair the ports and airfields and they, the cities,
haven't even reached 10K on their supply level even though they have had stockpiling turned on since the beginning of the game.
I spent at least an hour going through all the cities setting the stockpiling and supply requested levels and now most of the bases
have about 11+K supplies except for these refuse-nicks. I'm going to have to carry some supply to them I guess.




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You experts might have known about this but I just now discovered the Garrison and Garrison Required columns on the city display.
I can compare the number of people who are there with the number of people that HAVE to be there to find the places where there
may be some available troops for invasions somewhere. I usually just look through the INF units trying to find the Southern Army
ones. I now have a new tool to play this game with. Brian beware.




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