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RE: In case someone is interested on how WIF (no MWIF) ... - 5/20/2018 5:27:09 AM   
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Paul, that makes sense to me. But unless I'm mistaken, that's not how it works in MWIF. RAW7 has the same setup for China as the Collector's Edition, from what I can tell -- it calls for 1 MIL. But when I load a saved China-setup game, I get 1 MIL (Sian) only -- the reserve MIL (Lanchow) is in the China force pool, not the setup tray or on the map. Now, this save is not from the current version of MWIF, so maybe it's been changed?

It should be random which of the two Communist Chinese MIL is set up during the Global War setup. And, to me, it appears random. I've drawn the Lanchow MIL several times.




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RE: In case someone is interested on how WIF (no MWIF) ... - 5/20/2018 5:23:56 PM   
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Thanks, Orm. I think I'm misunderstanding the setup rule, then. China has two Communist MILs in its force pool: one (Langchow) is a reserve, one (Sian) is not. The scenario calls for one Communist MIL. But the rules also say China has called out its reserves. Shouldn't both MILs be set up, then? One is automatically on the board because it's been called out as a reserve; the other is in the force pool at setup because it's not a reserve. So when the scenario calls for a MIL, isn't it calling for the non-reserve MIL in the force pool?

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RE: In case someone is interested on how WIF (no MWIF) ... - 5/20/2018 7:36:49 PM   
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No. The idea is both MIL are in the force pool before anything happens - because Reserves were called out in 1936. To set up you randomly draw one of the two and the remaining one can be built. The set-up is saying one of the two was destroyed in fighting prior to the Global War scenario and has not been rebuilt yet. Making it a random draw is ADG's way of throwing in some variability to challenge the Allied player(s).

As I said, looking at an old set-up file does not show much because it would have been saved after random draws took place.

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RE: In case someone is interested on how WIF (no MWIF) ... - 5/21/2018 12:48:43 AM   
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Question: When using Ships in Flames, which of the original ship counters are removed? I can easily see that you should remove the BB, CA, CL, CV sets, but I am not sure if the SS, AMP, and TRS are replacements for or additions to.

Thanks in advance!

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RE: In case someone is interested on how WIF (no MWIF) ... - 5/21/2018 1:41:06 AM   
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Ah, found the answer in the Campaign & Players' Guide. It was the last place I looked.

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RE: In case someone is interested on how WIF (no MWIF) ... - 5/21/2018 2:40:44 AM   
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Rick, you guessed the rule almost perfectly! You also keep the WiF Convoy counters, as I'm sure you know.

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The set-up is saying one of the two was destroyed in fighting prior to the Global War scenario and has not been rebuilt yet.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! The light bulb turns on. I needed to be reminded that Japan and China have been fighting for three years. Thanks for the clarification!

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RE: In case someone is interested on how WIF (no MWIF) ... - 5/21/2018 2:44:18 AM   
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Incidentally, I'm now setting up France in Global War, Collector's Edition. I've been pleasantly surprised how smooth and easy setup has been. Once you grok the system, it goes fast.

It all looks so pretty, too! The only aesthetic thing I'm debating about is whether to put all my CW ships in Plymouth on a task force display. Right now they're sort of floating in several stacks in a long line in the English Channel. (They must have long lines tying them to their moorings.)

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RE: In case someone is interested on how WIF (no MWIF) ... - 5/21/2018 4:15:23 AM   
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Incidentally, I'm now setting up France in Global War, Collector's Edition. I've been pleasantly surprised how smooth and easy setup has been. Once you grok the system, it goes fast.

It all looks so pretty, too! The only aesthetic thing I'm debating about is whether to put all my CW ships in Plymouth on a task force display. Right now they're sort of floating in several stacks in a long line in the English Channel. (They must have long lines tying them to their moorings.)






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RE: In case someone is interested on how WIF (no MWIF) ... - 5/21/2018 5:28:16 AM   
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Wow! O.o

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RE: In case someone is interested on how WIF (no MWIF) ... - 5/21/2018 5:37:23 AM   
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Incidentally, I'm now setting up France in Global War, Collector's Edition. I've been pleasantly surprised how smooth and easy setup has been. Once you grok the system, it goes fast.

It all looks so pretty, too! The only aesthetic thing I'm debating about is whether to put all my CW ships in Plymouth on a task force display. Right now they're sort of floating in several stacks in a long line in the English Channel. (They must have long lines tying them to their moorings.)







"The War Illustrated", right? I have the whole ten volumes collection. Now it is available for free download in .PDF form. A real time capsule of WWII as seen in real time from the British point of view.

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RE: In case someone is interested on how WIF (no MWIF) ... - 5/21/2018 6:26:19 AM   
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I have yet to find Waldo in that picture.

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RE: In case someone is interested on how WIF (no MWIF) ... - 5/21/2018 7:47:48 AM   
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RE: The Counters.

1) My Germans are clearly gray and black. Russia orange.
2) The counters separate so well that I can hardly see or feel the "nub".
3) Since in my first copy of WiF 1st edition the counters literally separated into the cardboard core and little paper fronts and backs that I had to glue back together, I wouldn't complain about much!

Enjoy!


They do separate (super) easily. I was pointing at something when my friend moved slightly the sheet and it accidentally hit my finger and a group of about 8 or nine counters almost separated from the sheet, with some of them almost individually cut off.

However, I wonder if "easy to separate " and "no "nub" issue is the same.

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RE: In case someone is interested on how WIF (no MWIF) ... - 5/21/2018 8:04:46 AM   
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From the WifList:

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Gidday WIffers,


just posted up the latest text rules and campaign books (with hyperlinks and errata), the xl setups for all campaigns (including errata) and the latest errata in the downloads section of our site (https://www.a-d-g.com.au/pages/downloads).


As pointed out we are bringing out a 100 counter countersheet for the few recalcitrant counters and also leaves 90 counters free for extra counters.

What would you like to see? Please give me a hoy and as soon as I have the draft version done I will post it too up on our website.


Hope you are enjoying the game.


regards
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RE: In case someone is interested on how WIF (no MWIF) ... - 5/21/2018 2:47:33 PM   
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However, I wonder if "easy to separate " and "no "nub" issue is the same.


I think the counters are great. There are little nubs on the sides of the counters, but they're usually not noticeable to me. In a few cases I've sanded them down in a low-tech way, with my fingernail. If they ever become an issue, I might try filing them with the file on a nail clipper, but so far it hasn't been an issue.

This is the first wargame I haven't clipped (with my Oregon Laminations counter-clippers) in a couple years.


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RE: In case someone is interested on how WIF (no MWIF) ... - 5/22/2018 7:08:04 AM   
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However, I wonder if "easy to separate " and "no "nub" issue is the same.


I think the counters are great. There are little nubs on the sides of the counters, but they're usually not noticeable to me. In a few cases I've sanded them down in a low-tech way, with my fingernail. If they ever become an issue, I might try filing them with the file on a nail clipper, but so far it hasn't been an issue.

This is the first wargame I haven't clipped (with my Oregon Laminations counter-clippers) in a couple years.



I actually bought a used copy of the previous WIF at a price almost like new, because all the counters were clipped. I hate having to clip.

(It means, I don't clip games)

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RE: In case someone is interested on how WIF (no MWIF) ... - 5/22/2018 4:46:22 PM   
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In a game I just did, the Communists started with the Lanchow MIL.

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RE: In case someone is interested on how WIF (no MWIF) ... - 5/22/2018 10:07:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: rkr1958


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Incidentally, I'm now setting up France in Global War, Collector's Edition. I've been pleasantly surprised how smooth and easy setup has been. Once you grok the system, it goes fast.

It all looks so pretty, too! The only aesthetic thing I'm debating about is whether to put all my CW ships in Plymouth on a task force display. Right now they're sort of floating in several stacks in a long line in the English Channel. (They must have long lines tying them to their moorings.)







"The War Illustrated", right? I have the whole ten volumes collection. Now it is available for free download in .PDF form. A real time capsule of WWII as seen in real time from the British point of view.
Naw ... just found it on-line. However, here's my favorite (so far) from the Daily Telegraph.





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RE: In case someone is interested on how WIF (no MWIF) ... - 5/23/2018 4:30:48 AM   
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RE: In case someone is interested on how WIF (no MWIF) ... - 5/23/2018 6:10:10 AM   
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Why did the Royal Navy name two ships after two French Marshals?

Reliability both in officer and a ship is the first thing that an Admiral values. The Marshal Ney, judged by this standard, was a hopeless sinner; but her officers and men made up for her deficiencies. Her engines not infrequently exploded when asked to start; her engine-room was scarred as if by shrapnel from the fragments of burst cylinder heads, and the escapes of the engine-room staff were miraculous. Her Chief Engineer, Mr. Swan, stuck to the engines like a Trojan and almost overcame their bad habits; and really, when talking to him, you were almost converted to the opinion that just one little alteration would make them start next time the ship was required. Added to this, when they did not burst, they usually would not start, and when once started no one liked to stop them for fear of not being able to start them again. But, without exaggeration, the more they burst and the worse they behaved, the more Mr. Swan loved them and the more cheery Captain Tweedie became.






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RE: In case someone is interested on how WIF (no MWIF) ... - 5/23/2018 10:17:48 PM   
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Anyone know why HMSs Beatty and Jellicoe were renamed Howe and Anson? Was the final Admiralty report on Jutland declassified in 1940?

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