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RE: Strategic Bombing For Dummies - 5/6/2016 8:59:16 PM   
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You can control pilot replacements to some extent by setting air groups to receive only trained pilots, or to prevent/restrict them from receiving any pilots at all. As the Allies it generally isn't necessary to tinker with this too much, but as the Germans it is. Perhaps the subject of another Thread.

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RE: Strategic Bombing For Dummies - 5/8/2016 3:37:14 AM   
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good thread

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RE: Strategic Bombing For Dummies - 5/8/2016 1:16:51 PM   
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Another tip when choosing air groups manually for missions.I open the cr report,choose the air hq's I am using for the mission,click experiance,groups with highest are listed first,close the cr and those same groups are now sorted by experiance,highest to lowest on the available air groups screen

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RE: Strategic Bombing For Dummies - 5/8/2016 2:36:41 PM   
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Thanks for doing this!

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RE: Strategic Bombing For Dummies - 5/11/2016 11:00:53 AM   
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Thank youuuuu

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RE: Strategic Bombing For Dummies - 12/11/2016 1:56:11 PM   
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HarryBanana, excellent guide. One question, how do you get Fighter Command Day Superiority over the Ruhr, I cannot find an RAF fighter that has enough range even playing with the loadouts. What am I missing? NFs can reach there easily for escort and intruder missions.

Also why are 2 of these ADs set to day and friendly air phase as no friendly bombers will be flying in the day? I seem to be intercepting something with them but not sure why as I thought friendly air phase AS AD was sweeps coordinated with a bomber raid, but I still seem to be getting sweeps and air to air with defending fighters.

EDIT: Realised after looking very closely that the Spit IXs have shorter range with drop tanks, so I have the wrong spit type in Kent. I need the VBs and VCs there to reach the Ruhr with drop tanks.

Still not sure though what friendly phase only Day AS means when no nearby day bombing ADs

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RE: Strategic Bombing For Dummies - 12/12/2016 8:27:35 PM   
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HarryBanana, excellent guide. One question, how do you get Fighter Command Day Superiority over the Ruhr, I cannot find an RAF fighter that has enough range even playing with the loadouts. What am I missing? NFs can reach there easily for escort and intruder missions.

Also why are 2 of these ADs set to day and friendly air phase as no friendly bombers will be flying in the day? I seem to be intercepting something with them but not sure why as I thought friendly air phase AS AD was sweeps coordinated with a bomber raid, but I still seem to be getting sweeps and air to air with defending fighters.

EDIT: Realised after looking very closely that the Spit IXs have shorter range with drop tanks, so I have the wrong spit type in Kent. I need the VBs and VCs there to reach the Ruhr with drop tanks.

Still not sure though what friendly phase only Day AS means when no nearby day bombing ADs


AS directives operate independently of bombing missions - historically, they were used quite often on their own to destroy defending fighters. In fact, they would often approach enemy territory in a way that mimicked bomber formations in order to draw defending fighters into a trap (like the 8th TFW in Operation Bolo in 1967). In WITW, they are extremely useful in the days prior to a scheduled bombing mission, thinning out the fighter defenses a day or two before a bombing mission goes in.

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RE: Strategic Bombing For Dummies - 1/10/2017 8:04:35 PM   
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Excellent Tutorial here!

I managed to get an 1135 Decisive Victory once I got my act together, and then I started Weakest Link.
That's a whole different ballgame. There are much more German birds up in the air and bombing without many losses seems to be quite hard. Especially the Ruhr is a fortress, as it should be of course.

Any advice on that one?

Some questions of my own:
1. Of course for every FW or Bf you shoot down, the German gets one back, so even though Heavy Industry has the highest multiplier, does it pay to kill off relevant Aircraft factories before hunting VPs? (the answer here seems yes, but how to go about this?)
2. Does it help to destroy Railyards, does that slow the supply flow enough to those Aircraft factories?
3. Do Ground Attacks on rail hexes disrupt supply flow enough?

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RE: Strategic Bombing For Dummies - 1/12/2017 7:22:26 AM   
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Another question as well.

These are obviously the targets that generate vp's along with uboats and v weapons

German Nationality Manpower
§§ German Nationality Heavy Industry
§§ All Axis Controlled Oil
§§ All Axis Controlled Fuel
§§ All Axis Controlled Synthetic Fuel


Is there any point in bombing other strategic targets such as vehicles for example or is it best just sticking to the above?

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RE: Strategic Bombing For Dummies - 1/13/2017 10:23:34 PM   
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I don't know how successful it's been, but after I landed in France on the campaign game, I have also been hitting the railyards in and near the National Supply locations under the idea that I'm reducing supplies to the German units.

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RE: Strategic Bombing For Dummies - 1/14/2017 2:58:32 AM   
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Strategic bombing other targets is a viable strategy....but it is a long term one, and you won't easily see or know the results.

The Germans suffer shortages in trucks. So bombing the vehicle factories will have an effect. So will interdicting around troop concentrations. Trucks wills suffer attrition in the logistics phase.

The airplane factories are also a good target. Any spare planes I have as the Germans I use to increase the quality of my pilots.

AFV factories are good too....some of them are quite rare, like armoured cars/halftracks. But again...its a long term affect. Bomb early...bomb often.

Ahhh..speaking of timing...

In 1943, the allies should only bomb the Ruhr...and occasionally the U-Boat factories. Try not to be predictable on the U-Boat bombing however...you only have to damage them. I usually fly on bad weather turns to reduce the damage to my bombers.

I put the BC on night bombing over the Ruhr. They bomb only manpower.

I put the 8th Air Force over the same hexes...but during the day only..escorted by whatever can reach.

The fighters that cant reach, I put on random AS missions in around Netherlands....Belgium...Northern France.

All the hurricanes and typhoons I do ground interdiction around the Pas d'Calais. All the spitfires, 2 engine bombers...I use in Italy.

In 1944, you start to get more Lightning/Mustangs that can reach farther into Germany...start out bombing HI and Manpower...but feel free to switch to other targets. By the end of 1944 you will be able to bomb everything. In large 10 x 10 boxes.


Always look out for opportunities to destroy the Luftwaffe. The easiest way to do that is to get the Germans to use it. Don't be afraid to switch up the 8th air force to bombing airfields....if you know where the Luftwaffe is hiding..go nail it.

Ploesti looks inviting....but it really is a death trap. Be prepared to lose a lot of planes when you want to hit it.
Southern Germany can also be a death trap....but at least you can 'test the waters' by flying AS missions first.

Oh...the Air Superiority mission is an offensive one. It is designed to attrit the enemy by trading fighter for fighter. Since the Germans have only 35-ish pilots a turn, they don't want to trade pilots for the endless supply of allied pilots.


Hitting railyards is very useful in large areas like in France. What happens is the German depots get less and less supply. But if the Germans aren't using that supply, you wont notice a big difference....but with continued fighting....they will run out..And they will have to use trucks more and more...which attrits them as well.

Also...know your enemy! Where are the German factories? For example...Mainz has a HUGE vehicle plant. Fighter factories are basically in three different cities.....and so on.





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RE: Strategic Bombing For Dummies - 4/8/2017 2:17:47 AM   
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Ploesti looks inviting....but it really is a death trap. Be prepared to lose a lot of planes when you want to hit it.


I used to work in a pharmacy and we had this judge that was a customer. He flew in the Ploesti Raids. Crusty old guy, but for some reason I kind of liked him. Very irritable, though. Retired judge. I don't know how it came up but he told us, "The people that ordered that raid should have been put in jail. We were murdered up there."

I only knew him as Judge Faulkner. He's passed away now.

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