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how to user air force to limit supply? - 3/6/2016 3:41:29 PM   
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Logic tells me that general interdiction missions would be the best way but in game terms would it be railway or railyard missions?

I know supply is brought in from ports to depots then via trucks to the units but is interdiction of trucks carrying supply abstracted or do interdiction missions affect that as well?

basically, whats the most effective way to limiting the flow of supplies to front line units?
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RE: how to user air force to limit supply? - 3/6/2016 8:09:53 PM   
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quote:

I know supply is brought in from ports to depots then via trucks to the units but is interdiction of trucks carrying supply abstracted or do interdiction missions affect that as well?


Yes, air interdiction affects supply and replacements quite a bit. It is probably the most effective, especially when placed around depot. The problem is that enemy depots are invisible, so you have to guess. It will be added as a recon object, at least in WITE-2.

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RE: how to user air force to limit supply? - 3/7/2016 11:15:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Helpless

It will be added as a recon object, at least in WITE-2.


And backported to WitW I hope ?

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RE: how to user air force to limit supply? - 3/7/2016 2:17:55 PM   
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if I bomb a bunch of railyards so that the nearest undamaged railyard to the front line is say 10 hexes away, I assume that puts a decent limiting of supply to those units at the front line, eh?



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RE: how to user air force to limit supply? - 3/7/2016 7:05:16 PM   
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And backported to WitW I hope ?


Technically there are no reason not going this.

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RE: how to user air force to limit supply? - 3/7/2016 7:06:31 PM   
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if I bomb a bunch of railyards so that the nearest undamaged railyard to the front line is say 10 hexes away, I assume that puts a decent limiting of supply to those units at the front line, eh?


Since each inland depot should have a rail yard, hitting them is definitely not so bad idea.

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RE: how to user air force to limit supply? - 3/7/2016 7:14:18 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Helpless

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if I bomb a bunch of railyards so that the nearest undamaged railyard to the front line is say 10 hexes away, I assume that puts a decent limiting of supply to those units at the front line, eh?


Since each inland depot should have a rail yard, hitting them is definitely not so bad idea.


in the above scenario, will it produce a rather immediate effect on the supply or will it take several consecutive turns of keeping the railyards down to cause a supply shortage?

if bombing/interdicting the railways instead of railyards, will it produce a similar effect?

is it better to bomb the railways between the supply source and the depots, or the railways between the depots and the units?




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RE: how to user air force to limit supply? - 3/7/2016 7:32:55 PM   
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it depends on the existing stocks in local depot. Bombing railyards bring down the depot capacity, railways interdiction limits the amount it can deliver.

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is it better to bomb the railways between the supply source and the depots, or the railways between the depots and the units?


Railways are not used when supplies are shipped to units. Trucks are used when distance is greater than 3 (iirc). You need to interdict to hit this kind of traffic.

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RE: how to user air force to limit supply? - 3/7/2016 8:23:44 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Helpless

it depends on the existing stocks in local depot. Bombing railyards bring down the depot capacity, railways interdiction limits the amount it can deliver.

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is it better to bomb the railways between the supply source and the depots, or the railways between the depots and the units?


Railways are not used when supplies are shipped to units.
Trucks are used when distance is greater than 3 (iirc).
You need to interdict to hit this kind of traffic.


I though it was 5, because of horses? Its 3?

So any units 3 hexes from a depot gets supplies, greater then that by trucks?



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RE: how to user air force to limit supply? - 3/7/2016 8:55:23 PM   
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quote:

I though it was 5, because of horses? Its 3?


Manual says this:

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Normally vehicles are used for the delivery of supply
and replacement to units from depots. For non-isolated
units, German and type (0) non-motorized Allied units can
receive supply and replacements from a depot without
having to use vehicles up to 3 hexes from the depot
through the use of animal drawn transport. However,
this will cost double the freight being delivered as the
animal drawn transport is assumed to be consuming
fodder (if the unit is isolated, it receives the delivery but
does not pay double freight). As an exception to the
above, Western Allies units within one hex of a depot
get deliveries from that depot without having to use
vehicles from the depot or paying the double freight
cost. In this case it is assumed that organic vehicles from
the unit are going and getting the freight themselves.


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RE: how to user air force to limit supply? - 3/17/2016 6:34:00 PM   
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what kinda levels of interiction are required to affect supply getting to units in any meaningful numbers?

I know you need 7+ interdiction to seriously affect unit movement.

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RE: how to user air force to limit supply? - 3/23/2016 8:45:52 PM   
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Anyone?

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RE: how to user air force to limit supply? - 3/23/2016 10:39:59 PM   
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The system works the same in terms of imposing additional MPs per interdiction level but for supply the truck routing takes the path of least resistance and will try to bypass high level interdiction hexes. The result increases truck losses and delivers less freight as the trucks moving further deliver less.

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RE: how to user air force to limit supply? - 3/23/2016 10:45:38 PM   
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There is a plan to make interdiction less "visible" for the supply system. So it will still try to supply through the interdicted areas (i.e. there will be no or diminished increase of MP costs for the supply traffic). This should increase air interdiction potential (more damaged/destroyed freights).

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